Baer 1911 Premier Ii 5" Model


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Arrogant Bastard
May 22, 2008, 02:33 PM
http://www.lesbaer.com/images/prem5.jpg
BAER 1911 PREMIER II 5" MODEL

WANT.

But is the $1790 price tag justified?

What alternatives would people suggest?

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sernv99
May 22, 2008, 02:41 PM
I have been debating this as well. I want to get a 1911 that I'll keep for the rest of my mortal life ;) I found Baer's Concept I and II to be the cheapest, as stated in their price list. But I won't be shooting it all that much, maybe like twice a month at most, hence coulndt get myself to justify spending that kind of $$$. I was instead considering something cheaper like a Springfield Loaded.

another alternative is to look at Fusion Firearms. They are semi-custom as well. Their prices seem to be lower.

who has the best price for Baers? If I can get one at around $1100 NIB I'll pick one up for sure!!!

BamBam-31
May 22, 2008, 02:54 PM
It's hard to go back to plain ol' production line 1911's after owning and shooting semi-custom's like Baers. IMHO, I think the gun is worth the extra money.

Black Majik should be here shortly to recommend a good Les Baer dealer (Becky @ Sporting Arms, IIRC). Should be less than your listed price. ;)

critter
May 22, 2008, 02:57 PM
If you like the 1911 and there is ANY WAY you can possibly swing it, GET A LES BAER. I finally 'bit the bullet' and got one. Amazing!

They are (IMHO) the BEST for the buck you can find. Built like a swiss watch, TIGHT, reliable, accurate. When you get it, you will find it so tight you will swear it CAN NOT function at all. You will be wrong. Accuracy is amazing also.

So, sell a kidney, buy the Baer!

mjrodney
May 22, 2008, 02:57 PM
I'm a Les Baer owner and yes, they are worth the money.

You are getting a 1911 that is as good as it's going to get.

A lot of hands on time and attention goes into building a Baer.

I own other 1911's, and other platforms, but when it comes to taking out the X-ring, the Les Baer gets the nod.

Arrogant Bastard
May 22, 2008, 03:03 PM
OK, then, WHICH Les Baer model do people recommend, and why?

BamBam-31
May 22, 2008, 03:24 PM
Personal preference. Go to their website and compare the different features. Hard to go wrong w/ a PII, though. ;)

Mine's a 1.5" PII Supertac.

robctwo
May 22, 2008, 03:25 PM
I bought a PII with the 1.5" guarantee used. It is great. Thousands of rounds, very accurate. New Esmeraldas.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/robctwo/DSCN0311.jpg

I had my smith put an EGW fiber optic sight on it. It came with the factory mag well. It really is head and shoulders more accurate than the SA Loaded or S&W1911D Commander. Nominally more accurate than my Ed Brown Exec Target. I paid 1,750 for it used, LNIB and feel like I got a great deal.

BamBam-31
May 22, 2008, 03:28 PM
Paging Magico Negro, paging Magico Negro....:p

Canuck-IL
May 22, 2008, 04:25 PM
2 places with historically good prices and pleasant to deal with...
Proload - currently has a bunch on backorder, expected soon
http://www.proload.com/lesbaercatalog_dialup_version.aspx#catalogtop

Gil Hebard - no web site, call 309.289.2700 - Knoxville, IL
Oldtime Bullseye shooter, stocking LB dealer, nice folks.
/Bryan

Snapping Twig
May 22, 2008, 04:29 PM
Go here:

www.m1911.org

They have forums on this and other (most) 1911's.

See what they have to say.

I say go for it! You won't be sorry and the cost will fade over time, but you'll always have a nice pistol.

I bought a Kimber Custom CDP II, but with what I know today, I'd have looked at Baer and Wilson too. Nothing wrong with my Kimber, but there's better pistols.

Billy Shears
May 22, 2008, 04:56 PM
WANT.

But is the $1790 price tag justified?

What alternatives would people suggest?
HAVE!
:D

It's justified. Very much so. It's no more than most other high-end 1911s, and less than some. The thing feeds everything, and it's so accurate it almost seems to aim itself.

Black Majik
May 22, 2008, 05:40 PM
Bambam-31 listed the first dealer, Becky @ Sporting Arms is great to deal with. John @ Proload is the other popular dealer.

Here's a Les Baer forum to read up on.

http://forum.1911forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

What you'll basically get is all hand fitted parts, bank vault tight lockup, 4 lbs trigger, Kart Barrel, match bushing 3" maximum @ 50 yard guarantee (or 1.5" @ 50 yard guarantee), and pretty much every other goodie you can think of.

For a basic 3" @ 50 yard PII, you should be spending around $1500'ish. It'll have most of the options with black on black target sights. A good value for a semi-custom 1911.

I've seen Bambam-31 make a 5" steel chicken dance at 100 yards with his 1.5" Supertac. Should say something about the gun. :D

Norm Lee
May 22, 2008, 06:19 PM
Cdnn 1499

KyJim
May 22, 2008, 07:28 PM
I own or have owned several 1911s (Colt, Kimber, Springfield Auto, Sig) and decided to try a high end production model. I decided life was too short not to have one. In my case it was an Ed Brown Special Forces (a little higher than the Baer). I could not believe the difference in how it felt and how it shot. I loved it so much, I've got another EB in layaway. Somewhere down the line, I'm also going to get a Baer, maybe the Premier II.

If you can swing it, get the Baer. You'll not regret it.

kamagong
May 22, 2008, 08:28 PM
What alternatives would people suggest?
I chose the Baer Concept II myself as I don't care for adjustable sights and don't need front strap checkering.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8127/baersandleather002ct5.jpg

Sorry for the poor picture, but I'm not much of a photographer.

If you really want a Baer go for it. Although they are expensive, keep in mind that the initial purchase price of a gun is a small part of its cost in the long run. I shoot about 200 rounds a month through this gun. Since I don't reload yet that's roughly $600/year. Anyone who shoots regularly will quickly spend more on ammo than he does on his gun.

VHinch
May 22, 2008, 08:53 PM
My Baer is a Thunder Ranch Special, and yes, it was worth every red cent.

mec
May 22, 2008, 08:56 PM
If I had been out looking for a Baer, I would have gotten the Premier II. Instead, i ran across a minimally used tr special and bought that. It hits to the sights with the loads I used and I may be better off with the Novak sights than with adjustable just because the fixed sights could be a bit more rugged.

Great pistol and Baer has a reputation as a real good guy.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44837&stc=1&d=1158195700

kbheiner7
May 22, 2008, 09:06 PM
I don't have a Baer yet, but I have handled several and shot one. :what: what a nice pistol. There will be several in my safe once the kids get a little less expensive. :)

KyJim
May 22, 2008, 09:28 PM
There will be several in my safe once the kids get a little less expensive.
Just wait until they become teenagers to see how expensive they are!

robctwo
May 23, 2008, 02:31 AM
I had my Baer out to shoot bowling pins tonight. The organizers at the club are magnum revolver guys so they changed the rules. There were 5 pins on the tables instead of four. The tables were set back a ways, out to about 15-18 yards. Auto load guys could only load six in a mag, but we could have as many mags as we wanted, just like the revolver guys can have a bunch of speed loaders.

We shoot mano a mano, two people shooting at the same time, first one to clear the table and drop the stop plate advances.

The force was with the Baer. First place in both double elimination tournaments.

There was a bit of grumbling about that darned Baer shooting lights out.

poortrader
May 23, 2008, 07:46 AM
You might want try trolling the classified sections for used Baers. I have bought 2 used Les Baers, and saved a lot of money by buying used. Plus, you also save on ammo because you don't have to worry about breaking in the gun.

combatantr2
May 23, 2008, 09:03 AM
but I heard Baer does not recommend shooting +P thru their guns. I know I've read this somewhere but that could be wrong. So I spent all my monies on Beers:) and some cheapo 1911 :p

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