[twoblink]

Most of what my gf knows about guns, comes from Hollywood (unfortunately).

And so I'm wrestling with trying to explain to her things like:

"a .45ACP will _NOT_ make a person fly backwards if they are shot with it!!!"

"Despite what John Woo says, A 1911 does NOT hold 30 rounds in the regular magazine..."

etc..

So I thought I'd open the floor up for other misleading gun stereotypes thanks to hollywood..

[LiquidTension]

Guns do NOT make clicking noises just because they pass near a camera.

A Beretta is NOT the best gun around.

Gun owners are NOT all stupid rednecks with three teeth that marry their cousins (this one more from the news than Hollywood).

"Assault weapons" are NOT the weapons of choice for street criminals.

There are soooo many that I can't hope to get them all.

[Snake Eyes]

Automobiles are NOT effective cover for gunfire (up to and including 50 cal)

I think this one is actually dangerous.

[Moparmike]

Automobiles are NOT effective cover for gunfire (up to and including 50 cal)Niether are Port-a-Johns (See Lethal Weapon 3, and being fired at with an Uzi.)

M-4's arent good sniper guns.

A .223 is not a good sniper round and is not regularly used for precision (see news about DC shootings. :rolleyes: )

Guns are bad.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cuss:

[BHPshooter]

Whenever a gun is shown in a threatening manner, whether the operator cocks it or not, you will hear it cock! :fire: That pisses me off!

I also really love that someone can be holding a single-action pistol, like a 1911, and can fire without the hammer back. :rolleyes:

If you run, bullets can't hit you!

I won't even get started on the 'clip vs. magazine' argument. I'll just end up with a headache. :banghead:

Muzzle-flash in BROAD DAYLIGHT!

Two guns are cooler than one. :rolleyes: [see Face/Off, The Mummy, The Matrix, Tomb Raider, ad nauseum.]

Why aim? :scrutiny:

The gun that is a bolt-action on screen, but shoots just like a semiautomatic.

Ugh. I can't list any more, it'll make me vomit.

Wes

[Sleeping Dog]

Muzzle-flash in BROAD DAYLIGHT!
That would be a Mosin Nagant M44.:eek:

Two guns are better than one
Sounds good to me! :D

Regards.

[fourdeuce82d]

It's a good idea to first threaten someone with an unloaded auto...and then work the slide to let him know you're serious...

[Kamicosmos]

Outside of Dirty Harry Movies and some westerns:

Revolvers of any size have no apparent kick!

Shotguns also seem to have little recoil, yet will knock people through walls, etc.

The whole reloading thing, although a lot of times this is due to bad editing, not neccessarily the director saying "No, we don't need to reload"

Different guns sounding different. For example, the Hero's Beretta sounds like a damn howizter going off, while the bad guy's DE .50 sounds like a pop gun...

The 'sparking' effect of bullets hitting something.

[ACP]

See my comments in the "SWAT" movie thread.

[JDSlack]

My favorite...BGs let fly with umpteen rounds on full auto and can't hit GG at 30 feet, while GG picks off every BG at 200 yards with a 9mm pistol, or better yet, a 2" revolver.

[NewShooter78]

Not enough women with guns! And usually the only ones are BG's.

[cool45auto]

A Beretta is NOT the best gun around. :eek:

Anyway, I hate the way you hear a clicking noise on a Glock as the person is pulling the trigger repeatedly while the gun is empty.

[Skunkabilly]

Black person with gun = gangsta.
Hispanic with a gun = homie.
Chinaman with a gun (and ninja stars) = Triad
White guy with a gun = hillbilly

Misconception = you need a license.

[Dilettante]

I liked Kamicosmos's point about recoil. If a .45 could really knock somebody 20 feet back, the guy who fired it would be knocked back 20 feet too (more or less depending on weight). (On that score I guess "Men in Black" gets points for good movie physics. :D )

A neat page all-around is

http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/

Many of the points involve guns and bullets.

[Jesse H]

All guns click when empty, slides never lock back.

[IAJack]

Tactical error is when in process of chasing BG or after confronting them, the GG then jacking a round into the chamber..apearently we are supposed to be amazed and amuzed at the sound of this happening ...again and to think someone would go after someone else with an empty chamber!

[Nando Aqui]

Watch the bad guys holding their handguns (normally 'superduper mean and most powerful 9mm's), HORIZONTALLY!! Ooooh, ooooh, bad, bad!!!

Holding a handgun horizontally DOES NOT make it more powerful, accurate, meaner, have less recoil, ...... IT JUST LOOKS DUMB!

And how many times do they pull back the slide? When they leave their home, when they get in the car, when they get out of the car, when they approach the door, and when they point the gun at their target...

[RikWriter]

A .223 is not a good sniper round and is not regularly used for precision

Are you saying this is a Hollywood myth or are you stating that it's true. Either way, it's untrue. SOF troops regularly use the 223 for precision work.

[RikWriter]

The biggest gun gaffe in movies that always bugs the hell out of me is the way every gun makes a noise like a Colt SAA being cocked whenever it is picked up. You'd think guns come with little noisemakers in them that rattle whenever you touch them.

[Elmer Snerd]

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?threadid=25710

If you own a gun for protection(unless you are a cop, a soldier, or the Hero), attempts at self-defense will fail. The Bad Guy will take it from you(no matter how far away he is) and shoot you with it, or you will kill an innocent due to negligence or mistaken identity.

A vehicle's fuel tank will explode if the vehicle is shot, even if the hit is nowhere near the fuel tank.

[Ed Straker]

Why couldn't they just shoot the gun/knife out of his hand?
Why couldn't they just shoot him in the arm/leg?

[Aleko]

If you run, bullets can't hit you! But they will hit the ground 2 feet behind you as if BGs were aiming at your ankles.

[Preacherman]

And the A-team can fire thousands of rounds per episode, both at the heroes and by them, and no-one ever gets hit... :rolleyes:

[DMK]

You never see guns being loud on TV or in the movies. the characters never wear ear protection and they never seem to lose their hearing after a firefight. :rolleyes:

[Majic]

Shooting on an uphill angle greatly reduces the power of the handgun.
Shoot someone on the same level as you and they are blown backwards. Shoot someone above you and they simply fold over and fall forward.

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

And did you ever see a stovepipe anywhere?

- pdmoderator

[TheLastBoyScout]

pdmoderator:
I remember seeing a JAG episode where Harm went into a room, shot 1 or 2 bad guys, and continued clearing the room with a stovepiped case in his M9 (it was the ep where the US ambassador's wife in some south american country got caught up in smuggling drugs, IIRC)


It must have been an editing error, because I'm pretty sure there was no stovepipe immediately after he fired the last shot, and when the case was stuck he just continued clearing the room as if his gun was still functional.

[Dain Bramage]

You can shoot down aircraft, AND get a great group to boot, using a 2" snubbie revolver (The Rockford Files). :D

[Wanderer]

Another Jag mistake, one time they were being held hostage on an airplane by someone with a stainless Sig, and even though the slide was back, the BG was able to (A) fire the weapon and (B) Threaten naval officers without them noticing. Then someone else pulls a mouse gun and kills 2 or 3 bg's, making them fly backwards.

[cool45auto]

And did you ever see a stovepipe anywhere?
Ooh! Ooh! Yes, I actually saw a stovepipe in "Way of the Gun" in Benicio's shotgun coming out of the doctor's office! He just cleared it and kept firing.

[twoblink]

Don't forget, shotguns (which don't need to be aimed, but will reach 100 yards even with 00Buck) will blow the gun through 2 doors.

Glocks "click"..

When a GG is serious, he will make the Glock do a cocking sound..

Also..

James Bond can't tell the difference between a gun with 10 rounds in it, and one with none as far as weight :rolleyes:

If a BG sprays with an uzi, he hits nothing. If a GG sprays with an Uzi, he hits everybody..

Your body convulses repeatedly when you are shot..

A regular school-table or a chair is sufficient cover against a 308 round..

Bolt actions fire as fast as semi-autos..

a 30 round mag from an uzi will last over 2 minutes in the hands of a GG, but only 2 seconds in the hands of a BG.

[number6]

A real cheezy one is when they have lead bullets making sparks when being sprayed aross a street, onto a car, building, etc. Since when did lead cause sparks? :D

[Kamicosmos]

And did you ever see a stovepipe anywhere?

Actually, yes! In the first Jurassic Park, he drops that shotgun (SPAS12?) and it's bolt is held open by a stovepiped 12 gauge shell. I thought that was pretty good. But, Spielberg is a bit more gun conscious than most directors.

[Zundfolge]

Most rediculous gun stereotype I've seen come out of Hollyweird is; GUNCONTROL WORKS

:banghead: :cuss: :fire:

[Tamara]

Guy came into the shop today with an 8 3/8" 629. Asked if he could get the gunsmith to look at it, as the cylinder wouldn't turn, nor could he unlatch it.

Had a hunch what it was on first glance, but fetched the 'smith, as he has stronger thumbs than I. Sure enough, the ejector rod had backed out a tad, binding the gun. The 'smith tightened it up, we gave him the standard "don't you dare loctite it!" lecture, and then we wandered back to the shop to continue working on fixing a scad of milsurp pistols for an importer.

I'm sitting there, tearing down another few dozen guns while the customer hangs out up front and raps with the owner. I hear a distinctive noise and, wiping cosmoline off my hands with a rag, rush back to the front of the shop. Sure enough, there's Joe Customer vigorously spinning the cylinder of his N-frame and snapping it shut (still spinning) with a flick of the wrist.

"I'll be back to see you guys soon!" he says.
"Sooner than you planned to, if you keep doing that," says I. "Snapping the cylinder shut with a wrist-flick can spring the crane, especially on a gun with a big, heavy cylinder, like an N-frame," I cautioned further "also, snapping it shut with the cylinder spinning can bend the hand like a banana and peen the bolt stop something fierce."
"Really?" he replied.
"Really," says I "I hate to talk us out of further big bucks on repair jobs, but that's God's Own Truth."

[twoblink]

Tamara..

But all the Russian roulette players do that!! :uhoh: :rolleyes: :what:

One too many cowboy movies I recken'...

[BHPshooter]

All guns click when empty, slides never lock back.

Or, if it's a full auto, the BG will hold the trigger, which emits a *clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick*...

Point in case: The Bourne Identity. :rolleyes: What, is it battery powered?

Wes

[number6]

Or, in the old (early 1960's) Superman tv show, when the BG was shooting bullets from his revolver at Superman, he just stood there as the bullets bounced off his chest. But when the BG ran out of bullets and threw the gun at Superman in disgust, Superman ducked out of the way of the gun! :D

[txgolfer45]

Unlimited ammo in a semi-automatic handgun. I saw a movie the other night where the bad guy takes a shot at someone, you can see the slide lock back. Then you hear 4 - 5 additional shots. No mag change or anything. Gun shot sounds just continue... lol

Scott

[Remander]

Once saw that fat detective, Cannon, shoot a motorcycle at about 100 yds with a snubbie.

One shot.

It immediately blew up like a bomb!

[number6]

I don't remember the name of it but it was a Clint Eastwood movie. That hag he married was also in it. They were in a house and the local LEO's shot so many rounds into the house that is actually collapsed. They escaped through a drainage ditch that was under the house.:confused:

At the end of the movie they took a bus to city hall and cops were lined up on both sides and fired about a million rounds into the bus and nobody was killed.

i just remembered the movie -- The Gauntlet :cuss:

[lostdog]

nobody aims

all good guys can shoot like rob leathem

no bad guy can shoot, and if he can, he gets shot my good guy at beginning of movie

mister "martial arts guy" takes a gun from mister "gun guy" and them beats him up......I'm sorry, but I'm a "martial arts guy" and if I disarm somebody...I have a gun, and they don't....I don't need to beat them up...I have a GUN......!!!??

for some reason, the phrase "7.62" is supposed to make me afraid.

The good guys guns look "purdy", while the bad guys guns look "normal" ( See the movie bad boys two, where Will smith makes a head shot while diving and not aiming, with his custom glock)