Cylinder Hand Loader
English Phil
May 25, 2008, 08:28 PM
Hi,'Anyone know where I can purchase one of these, Cabelas don't sell them seperately
'In its black powder form, each cylinder of this .44-caliber 1873 is precisely loaded on the special stand (included). Blued finish. '
The photo wouldn't copy, but the loader is included if you buy the Cattle Mans .44
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Old Fuff
May 25, 2008, 09:39 PM
This is a long shot, but maybe a U.K. importer that represents Uberti could get you one. I would think that local distributors that handle the revolver should be able to get any required accessories.
mykeal
May 25, 2008, 09:44 PM
Traditions (http://www.traditionsfirearms.com)
Click on Accessories in the top bar, then click Loading and Shooting in the menu on the right, then enter "loading stand" in the search box and click on Search.
scrat
May 26, 2008, 12:18 AM
The possible shop. i bought one there. thought it was the best thing since slice bread. Until i tried it at the range. on the first try the Cheap wooden handle broke and i scraped my knuckle pretty good on the cylinder. I tried to use it again. the lever is too short. too short not enough leverage can be had. Then the cylinder wobbles all around in the middle. It was a good idea on a cheap design. a lot of improvements can be made. I saw a guy post one up on the firing line. it was really nice. However i heard they stop making them. It was adjustable for different cylinders. Then the armor shaft the cylinder was on had a nut on top to keep the cylinder still. Just a way better design.
here is a link to the possible shop.
http://www.possibleshop.com/cap-ball-supplies.htm
mykeal
May 26, 2008, 07:27 AM
scrat - thanks for the Possible Shop link. I looked there but couldn't find it for some reason. Traditions was the only one I could find.
I'm the guy who posted the pictures on the Firing Line. Powder Inc. is now saying they will ship these starting the end of May: Powder, Inc cylinder loader (http://www.powderinc.com/cgi-bin/bpstore/perlshop.cgi?ACTION=thispage&thispage=cyl_loader.htm&ORDER_ID=225952551)
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/cylinderloadingstand.jpg
And you're right, they are much, much better. Well worth the higher price.
English Phil
May 26, 2008, 10:41 AM
Hi Folks,
Many thanks for the info. Have located a store in AZ for what I need.
Phil
Zeke/PA
May 26, 2008, 11:58 AM
Mykeal,
Great photo!
It's all I need to make a similiar loader for my ROA.
Government job time!!
Zeke
English Phil
May 26, 2008, 12:28 PM
I have looked at the one that Traditions supply and it does look a bit flimsy. Looked on the website for Powder Inc, and their one looks a real sturdy work of art. Although a bit more expensive, I think it should last a lifetime.
scrat
May 26, 2008, 01:19 PM
if this is the one your looking at its junk.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q77/scratm3/53-1309-1.jpg
Let me tell you what the picture does not show.
1. The bottome plate where the cylinder rest has a small groove like if your timing tabs on the back of the cylinder are supposed to fit in there. Well. They dont fit. unless you have a very small cylinder. all my .44s dont fit. So they wobble.
2. the arbor bolt that is supposed to secure the cylinder or kinda hold it place is tooo skinny. so the cylinder again wobbles.
3. the brass press pin is not adjustable. so it wont stay straight when you start a bullet always wants to turn towards the least pass of resistance.
4. the handle is very very cheap. all in all the other one posted is way better. This one here is a safety problem.
mykeal
May 26, 2008, 02:08 PM
scrat - that loader comes in two versions, .36 and .44; you may have the .36 cal version.
But, even if it was the right caliber it still has issues, the main one being the fulcrum is not adjustable for different size cylinders. And the complaint about 'flimsy' construction is still valid as well.
The one from Powder, Inc. (and other places also) comes with two jags, one for .36 and one for .44 cal, plus two base pins, one for Remington/Ruger/R&S and the other for Colts. And both the base and the fulcrum are adjustable for different size cylinders. All in all, a much better unit and worth the extra money.
scrat
May 26, 2008, 02:13 PM
nice i ordered a .44 too. as i dont even own a .36
Bad Flynch
May 26, 2008, 06:26 PM
Try Dick Dastardly at http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ProductID=23 . That is a nice machine, I have one of the Pietta loaders and I am not impressed. Dick's is nicer.
mykeal
May 26, 2008, 07:56 PM
I believe Dick's loader is the same as Powder Inc's. Your link didn't work for some reason, but I used the base URL to his site and found it under Bullet Extras/Cylinder Loading Stand.
Dick's price is $79 and he says he's working with a new supplier and to watch for news. Powder Inc's price is $64 and they will accept an order to ship at the end of May.
English Phil
May 27, 2008, 05:50 AM
I found this one on USA Ebay, it looks and is described as a sturdy looking piece
Mile High Shooters Supply. Item number: 370053978599
Heavy duty cap & ball cylinder reloading stand. for 44 caliber cylinders.
This stand is built to hold up under the rigors of extensive use, Saves wear on the revolvers loading mechansism. Great for Cowboy action and others who do alot of loading and shooting.
Allows for easy loading of chambers when cylinder is removed from the gun.
Fits 1851, 1860, 1873 colts, and 1858 Remingtons. (Cylinder not included)
For $33 gonna give this one a try.
mykeal
May 27, 2008, 07:22 AM
Don't do it. You'll be sorry. It's the same faulty design - no fulcrum or other adjustments for variable cylinder size.
scrat
May 27, 2008, 09:31 AM
yep id say leave it alone. not worth it. spend some money and ge a good one.
Im283
May 27, 2008, 02:32 PM
The one that comes with the cattleman is a piece of crap. It functions but I doubt its longevity.
I got mine from Dixie Gunworks
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=13876
Looks very similar to the one that comes with the Cattleman but trust me it is way better. Worth the extra dollars.
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