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THE MACHINIST
May 26, 2008, 02:42 PM
P250 COMPACT
The P250, a modular pistol that allows the shooter to change caliber and size at will.... The SIG SAUER P250 was designed specifically to address the future needs of the military, law enforcement, and civilian shooters around the world. The P250 will be available in the most popular calibers (9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W and .45ACP). The P250's innovative design enables the shooter to quickly remove the functional mechanism and place it into the polymer grip of his choice. This allows an immediate change in caliber and size;(subcompact, compact and full). And after any change the pistol delivers both outstanding accuracy and reliable functionality. Its modularity not only provides incredible ease of maintenance, but also provides a solution for accommodating different hand sizes - there are 6 different ergonomic combinations for each size, accomplished by changes in grip circumference and trigger style. Now you can own the world's only modular shooting system globally engineered to deliver the "to hell and back" reliability you've come to expect from Sig Sauer.

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jgo296
May 26, 2008, 02:45 PM
you could just get a 10mm and need no extra barrels

kingpin008
May 26, 2008, 02:46 PM
Why did you just copy/paste the advertising blurb for the P250 off of the Sig site?

Do you have a question? Are you part of their advertising team? What's the deal?

blkbrd666
May 26, 2008, 02:52 PM
It doesn't have the integral beer bottle opener that the German police issue P6 has. :D

THE MACHINIST
May 26, 2008, 02:52 PM
"one handgun for everything?" i believe that is a question johnny cochran! ,anymore armchair lawyers out there.

2nd 41
May 26, 2008, 03:20 PM
My shooting buddy bought one. The conversions are TOO MUCH $$$.

jocko
May 26, 2008, 03:35 PM
I am sure some will make use of the conversions, but to me, just sounds like another good sales feature, no more no less. but still nice. would not be my crieteria for buying one..

Vern Humphrey
May 26, 2008, 04:23 PM
My M1911 with conventional ammo, a few auto-functioning shot loads, a Colt Service Ace Conversion Kit and a brick matches that description.

Claude Clay
May 26, 2008, 04:30 PM
my P239 was bought with 40 S&W. same mag's and bbl spring now supports a 357SIG bbl and a 9MM bbl. need a p250 for what?

bannockburn
May 26, 2008, 04:36 PM
THE MACHINIST

If I wanted an info-mercial, I would have turned on my TV, not my computer.
Please spare us any more cut-and-paste ad copy.

Now if you have one, and possibly a few of their different sized modular grip assemblies, along with a couple of caliber conversions, and could give us a range report; that would be worth hearing about.

blkbrd666
May 26, 2008, 04:59 PM
"one handgun for everything?" = "Considering this advertisement(which was included), does anyone think the P250 COMPACT could fill the bill as one handgun for everything?"...

There, I did all them mental interpretation of MACHINIST'S question. I must go rest my brain now.

kingpin008
May 26, 2008, 07:44 PM
Blkbrd666 - I think the issue is that he could very well have actually said all that with a minimum of effort, instead of making us all wonder exactly what he was getting at.

There is a such thing as too little information.

davepool
May 26, 2008, 11:51 PM
Get a Glock G20 10mm and buy a .357 sig,.40S&W and a 9 X 25 dillon barrel for it, four different calibers and a lot cheaper

Tribal
May 27, 2008, 12:38 AM
...and in the Glock-ness bind them?

tank mechanic
May 27, 2008, 12:57 AM
Get a Glock G20 10mm and buy a .357 sig,.40S&W and a 9 X 25 dillon barrel for it,

In this setup, do you load the 357 Sig/.40s&w into the 10mm G20 mags? If not what do you use? That combo sounds like the perfect one handgun for everything.

TimboKhan
May 27, 2008, 01:31 AM
My basic problem with this pistol is that I can't think of a single compelling reason why I would want to switch between a .357 sig, 9mm, .40, and .45 on anything even remotely resembling a regular basis. Actually, I will go one step further and say that I can't think of a compelling reason why I would ever want to switch between those calibers, period. I can see some vague utility in being able to switch from 9mm to .45, but that's really about it. Overall, this seems like an answer to a question no one asked, especially given that the conversions are pretty expensive. Expensive enough that simply buying a different gun per caliber (Although all I shoot is .45 and 9mm)doesn't seem like a bad idea.

LAK Supply
May 27, 2008, 01:49 AM
In this setup, do you load the 357 Sig/.40s&w into the 10mm G20 mags? If not what do you use? That combo sounds like the perfect one handgun for everything.

The four different loads you can shoot from the G20 platform all use the 10mm mags. The 357 SIG and .40 are both the same OD as the 10mm, as is the 9x25... all you need is a different barrel for each load.

wuchak
May 27, 2008, 02:41 AM
We've had one handgun for everything for a long time. It's a .357 with a 4" barrel. There is not much that needs to be done with a handgun that a 4" .357 cannot do and do well without the need for any extra parts.

ColinthePilot
May 27, 2008, 02:58 AM
I looked at them for a long time. Then I remembered a few things.
1. Why buy one gun in four calibers when I can buy four guns?
2. I haven't liked .40 S&W when I've shot it, and its expensive.
3. .357Sig is more expensive.
4. 9mm hydrashok does the trick for me, 9mm is cheap range ammo, and I got all the Sig quality and the cheap range ammo in a compact pistol when I bought a P6 this weekend, for less than half the price of a P250.

MTMilitiaman
May 27, 2008, 03:07 AM
Get the G20 and screw the caliber conversions. Once you have a 10mm Auto, the .40 and .357 SIG seem rather dull, and unnecessary. If you want .40 Short and Weak performance from your 10mm, just load one of the FBI-Lite loads on the market and enjoy(?).

12131
May 27, 2008, 03:27 AM
Thought I was reading the J. Peterman catalog.:evil:

soccergod04
May 27, 2008, 03:35 AM
Haha, Elaine is writing Sig ads now!

loop
May 27, 2008, 04:30 AM
What are you, a salesman?

How about the EAA Witness? It has offered a single frame with slide and barrel options in .22 rf, 9mm, .357, .40, 10 mm, 41 A&E and .45 for years.

It is available in SA or DA and in poly or steel - fullsize or compact.

What is your revelation?

loop
May 27, 2008, 04:44 AM
Oh, and I forgot to add.

In the US you may not be limited to how many guns you have. But, in Europe, Australia, New Zealand and in Africa you may be limited to how many pistol frames you own. Having a single frame that will adapt to many calibers may be very worthwhile given those circumstances.

However, so far the SIG is a 9. That's it. Not very impressive.

When you have the add-on kit that turns it into a 45 post pix.

For now, turn off the sales pitch.

Mastiff
May 27, 2008, 06:00 AM
FWIW, I have converted my 7.62x25 Romanian Tok ($209 for a refurbished example) to fire 9x19 Luger, and 9x23 Winchester with just a barrel change and a 9mm bushing. The 9x23 Winchester gives me 357 Magnum ballistics in the Tok, and the 9x19 gives me very cheap practice ammo, as the brass is everywhere, and I reload.
I'm thinking of taking some 223 brass and cutting it down to 25mm, which would basically give me a 9x25 Mauser Export (not 9x25 Dillion!!) with another modified 9mm barrel (the barrels only cost me $36). This would be incredibly strong brass. I figure with that, I could probably match 44 Magnum power levels. This would be just for grins, as I don't really see the need for more than the 357 Magnum power levels. I do not intend to go handgun hunting where I would need more than that. It just would be fun to see how far I could go with it in such a lowly platform.

jlh26oo
May 27, 2008, 06:04 AM
Go-go-gadget SiG!

TimboKhan
May 27, 2008, 05:24 PM
There is not much that needs to be done with a handgun that a 4" .357 cannot do and do well without the need for any extra parts.


Amen to that.

76shuvlinoff
May 27, 2008, 08:13 PM
Ignoring the fact that I just choked on my evening coffee and some of it is in my nostrils now...I think this is the quote of the day. +1

My M1911 with conventional ammo, a few auto-functioning shot loads, a Colt Service Ace Conversion Kit and a brick matches that description.

I may have to make that my new sig line....

BLB68
May 27, 2008, 11:55 PM
The P250 will be available in the most popular calibers (9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W and .45ACP).

Don't these calibers all fill the same basic role? Not seeing how it fits the "one gun for everything" category, really. Toss in a .22LR option, and you get up to the level of a bunch of other guns in terms of flexibility.

Seems behind the curve IMO, though I'd like to see one for its gadget factor.

Geno
May 28, 2008, 12:08 AM
I have always believed that the Colt ACE did this nicely.

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