Ok..maybe is a stupid thought...convince me why I should get a .22 cal gun...


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saturno_v
May 27, 2008, 02:09 AM
I know it sounds weird or stupid (we are into guns after all right?? any gun...) but I cannot find a reason why I should spend my hard earned dollars to buy a 22 caliber rifle and/or handgun.

Disclaimer...My dad, RIP, had an impressive collection in Italy and it included several .22 guns. These guns now are in my mother's house in Italy and one day I will eventualy get my share (I have a sister) and bring them in the US but it is something way into the future...however let's not digress...

At the moment I'm building my small collection, growing by the day, here in the US...

I do not have kids, only one teen ager stepson that hunts already with a 300 Win Mag :D:D...so, for example, no need for a "training" gun.

I'm not a professional target shooter, I like to plink here and there and spend some good time at the range...

All of my guns have a "practical" aspect in regard to a possible use..for example, I have a big revolver in .44 Mag for wildlife protection during my hiking trips, few semi-auto handguns and considering getting another revolver for CCW, my pistols are full size and pocketable (for summer carry), I own several high-power and medium power rifles (all kind of actions, semi-auto, bolt, lever, "assault style", etc..).
I do not hunt but if I need to, I can put meat on the table.
In a SHTF type of situation I'm well defended...:neener::neener:

Then I have couple of 12 ga. shotguns for skeet and HD

You get the picture..all of my guns can serve a specific practical purpose....I have no interest in historic "not shootable" weapons, antiques, etc...

I just do not see the practical purpose of owning a .22....I know I know ammo is dirt cheap.....but I really enjoy the noise, kick and blast when I shoot, the strong sensations...I honestly get seriously bored after a couple of .22 magazines...

A .22 is hopelessly inadequate for personal defense.... some loads, stretching a little bit, could take a coyote but there are way better tools for that and I already own rifles that are definitely a more adequate choice for varmints...

If I would ever need to get rid of rats, I would use poison and mousetraps, where I live I cannot shoot all around my yard anyway :D:D:D

Still once in a while a thought "torments" my mind...how come you have a gun collection and you do not have a 22??? Seems like owning few 22s is a "must" for a gun collector...

So far in my state (WA), going around gun shops and shows I been unable to find a dirt cheap (below 100 dollars) decent .22 shooter in good conditions..I know that once in a while big sporting goods stores run sales of .22 rifles at $99 or less but I been unable to "lock on" one of these offers yet and I suspect they will not come around often in the future anyway....

What I usually find (used or new) runs around $150 or so, rarely a bit less....at that point an other kind of thought "assails" me ....for few dollars more or sometimes significantly less (Mosin-Nagant anyone??) I can buy another more "serious" rifle or pistol....a milsurp, a sporterized military rifle, a well used hunting rifle, a decent revolver or semi-auto, etc...

My mind "refuses" to cough up that kind of money for just a plinker with no practical use (to me).

Granted, if I could find a decent Ruger 10/22 for $50 I would get it...

What do you think?? Am I being irrational or idiotic?? Anyone is in my same "situation"?? Any advice or comments??
I apologize for the long post, I just need to rant...:D:D:D

Thanks!!!

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Dksimon
May 27, 2008, 02:13 AM
I bought a .22 because they are cheap to shoot. I can spend $13.49 and have a weekends worth of ammo.

It does not serve a real purpose other than enjoyment.

basically I love to shoot and .22 is the cheapest ammo to shoot so that is what I end up shooting the most.

saturno_v
May 27, 2008, 02:19 AM
I love to shoot too, but, as I said, I really get bored after couple of mag of buzzers...no kick, no noise, no blast...:D:D:D
I seriously get more enjoyment after 20 rounds of 30-06 than after 200 round of .22...

jungleroy
May 27, 2008, 02:32 AM
Having a 22 pistol and rifle means more trigger time for less money spent on rounds.
Who doesn't like more trigger time. :D

pdowg881
May 27, 2008, 02:40 AM
Besides cost of ammo it's a great way to relaern fundamentals. or if you develop a flinch or something it's good to go back to until you fix the issue. I wouldn't say .22's aren't a "serious" gun either. Some people use them for plinking but people can become excellent shooters and develop skills really well with a .22. It's also great to have when introducing new people to shooting.

JKimball
May 27, 2008, 02:41 AM
Yeah, .22's are for those of us who get more enjoyment out of hitting the target than hearing the boom and feeling the recoil. If you think they're boring, I can't see a reason to get one.

Scott Skawronska
May 27, 2008, 02:52 AM
Do you own a 1911-style pistol as a personal sidearm or carry gun?

Get a Ruger 22/45 for practice; The handle rake is the same, the controls are in the same location for muscle memory, and here's the bottom line:

"Cheap Ammo."

You can practice all day long with that 22/45 for the same price as about three boxes of .45acp.

When proficiency with that firearm, hitting what you aim at, is the difference between living to come home to your kids and never seeing them again, I'd say that having an inexpensive practice option in order to keep your marksmanship skills honed razor sharp is absolutely worth it.

Also, in a SHTF situation, there may come a time where someone who has never fired a handgun may need to get proficient with one quickly. And you have precious little combat ammo to spare as it is considering there IS no resupply, there IS no chopper landing with fresh ammo for your sidearm; You have to make do.

Part of "making do" will be to train your new additions on the 1911-pattern firearm, and to do so, you're going to need something that imitates the .45 without the .45 muzzle blast, recoil, and most critically, AMMUNITION.

Another option that would work as well is the Kimber Rimfire Target if you have the money for it, for even more realism; Compare to the Colt Ace .22 trainer used by the US Military.

Which brings me to another possiblity -- while you say you don't like collectibles, how about a FUNCTIONAL collectible? How about a REAL Colt Ace if you can find one? A piece of history AND an excellent trainer.

Not everyone you meet during/after a SHTF event is going to be a natural shooter. Necessity is going to make a lot of people who have never owned firearms into gun owners; Some of those people you may end up sheltering or sheltering with.

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to bring them up to speed on a platform that has a solid defensive purpose?

S

saturno_v
May 27, 2008, 02:55 AM
Yeah, .22's are for those of us who get more enjoyment out of hitting the target than hearing the boom and feeling the recoil. If you think they're boring, I can't see a reason to get one.


Don't get me wrong..I like to hit the target of course...but I still like the boom and kick...:D:D:D

qajaq59
May 27, 2008, 07:11 AM
Yeah, .22's are for those of us who get more enjoyment out of hitting the target than hearing the boom and feeling the recoil. If you think they're boring, I can't see a reason to get one. I certainly can't tell you to get one as I've never owned a .22 rifle. That little phfffft when a .22 goes off just doesn't hack it for me. Also, I enjoy reloading and I prefer to shoot at 200 yards, which can be a bit tough with one of the .22s.

DWARREN123
May 27, 2008, 07:37 AM
Fun!

GhostlyKarliion
May 27, 2008, 07:51 AM
well, I wouldn't want to hunt squirrel or rabbit with that 300 win mag ;)

the real reason you should have at least one .22? Suppose that stepson of yours brings a girl home one day who has never shot before, you two take her to the range, I hope you arent going to start her out on a 300win mag! .22 is the best option for a beginning shooter, if you are going to be teaching anyone to shoot, then you should have at least one in your collection.

CajunBass
May 27, 2008, 07:53 AM
If you don't want a 22, don't get one. You never miss something you never had.

Me personally, I've only got a dozen. Other than air rifles, they're about the only guns I use.

Catherine
May 27, 2008, 07:57 AM
I own several 22LR firearms. I like to shoot them and not only because it is 'cheaper to shoot'. A lot of bang for your buck! Grin. I like them for plinking and for self defense (Gasp!) practicing. I have bigger calibers for that too. It is a fun and nice caliber with or without physical problems or a weaker left arm/hand = me.

If you want to get one... get one. If you do not want one - do not buy one! I would not want to 'convince' anyone what they should own or buy unless they ask me what kind of 22LR firearms that I own and love because they WANT to get into 22LR shooting.

If a man or a woman only had a 22LR handgun or a 22LR rifle... they could use that for self defense or to deter a criminal if that is ALL that they had too. I know that is NOT considered a 'smart thing' to say to gun people but IF that is ALL that some of those potential victims owned to shoot... use if for self defense and practice plinking with it too.

Best wishes.

Catherine

ScotZ
May 27, 2008, 08:05 AM
We used the 22's for most family shoot off's. Everybody got to shoot as much as they wanted. and the best shot usally won. The bank never got broke as far as ammunition cost went and the younger kids got as much practice as they wanted. 22's supplied great family bonding time for very little money.

Catherine
May 27, 2008, 08:13 AM
Dear Cajun Bass,

Hello fellow 22LR shooter! You type faster than I do! Ha ha. I am glad to see your input here on the 22LR caliber. I just scrolled and saw you here AFTER I pushed the post button.

Here's to 22LR!!! And... 45Colt aka long colt too! My woods/bear gun. I have that Triple K leather western belt with 2 holsters on it. One holds a Bisley or Super Single Six in 22LR and the other one holds my Blackhawk in 45Colt. My Uncle Mike's shoulder holster holds some 22LR firearms too.

Take care. Thanks!

Blessings to you and yours,

Catherine

tinygnat219
May 27, 2008, 08:20 AM
Cheap to shoot
Fun to shoot
Accurate to shoot
Volume of shooting for the money
Easy to shoot.
Anyone can shoot it.

If nothing else, it allows me to get to the range more often.

cpttango30
May 27, 2008, 08:26 AM
I think there is no reason what so ever for you to get a 22lr. They offer no recoil and no big loud boom so therefor they are no fun to shoot.

I personaly love rimfires, there are just so many things you can do with a rimfire. Shooting varmints, cans, eggs, clays, spinners, ect....

For $26 I have enough ammo for atleast 4 trips to the range. To me taking a break from recoil and loud shooting is a good thing. I own two rimfire pistols and 2 rimfire rifles. With plans to add many many more.

So if you don't buy any that leave more for me.

Catherine
May 27, 2008, 08:32 AM
PS to the original poster.

I learned to shoot and had gun safety classes using a 357Magnum revolver. It was my late husband's firearm and he taught me. I had NO problems and it did not make me 'afraid or hate firearms'. We are all individuals though and what worked for ME might not work for others. I used 38 Special Plus P and 357Magnum ammunition back then and now too. Later on I bought my own firearms... from May 1998 and on.

Some ladies and gentlemen, not all, might want to LEARN on a 22LR firearm and in MANY cases that might be the BEST thing for THEM. Children usually start on 22LR firearms. I never had children but some gun friends of mine taught their children on 22LR firearms before they took hunting safety classes. Those children now shoot bigger calibers and are GREAT hunters too. I am proud of them and have shot with one of them here @ a 'shoot'! I shot with his Dad and other guys but THIS kid is a natural as his Dad is and his 2 brothers are too!

I hope that this helps you.

Catherine

Lady with a Gun
May 27, 2008, 08:52 AM
For practice, the .22 has the advantage of being very cheap. Expecially, if the desire is to shoot about 500 rounds per week, to stay warmed up for matches.

JohnBT
May 27, 2008, 09:06 AM
Oh, oh, oh, I know why you should buy a .22.

Shooting a .22 is a pleasant way to pass the time while you're waiting for your real guns to cool off. ;) Wouldn't want to melt the barrels off of them.

Don't mind me, I'm a squirrel hunter at heart and I like .22s. I even spent $1600 on a Cooper bolt action .22 a few years back. And it is more accurate than any of my other good .22 rifles. Not by much, but enough to be noticeable.

John

2nd 41
May 27, 2008, 09:21 AM
Inexpensive fun. No other reason needed.
I have a 10/22, G22, Beretta70S, Buckmark NRA and my all time favorite S&W Mod 41.

Onmilo
May 27, 2008, 09:39 AM
Because the .22 rimfire is the first, and still most useful, primer contained metallic cartridge ever invented.

Everybody who even thinks they have any interest in firearms should own one firearm in this caliber.

SaxonPig
May 27, 2008, 10:18 AM
The 22 is a recreational caliber.

If this doesn't interest you then I won't waste my time trying to convince you that you should buy one. If you don't one then you don't want one.

ImARugerFan
May 27, 2008, 10:30 AM
.no kick, no noise, no blast...

Get a single six and shoot it without earplugs. Come back and tell me if there's any 'noise'.

Catherine
May 27, 2008, 10:32 AM
I used to alternate between my bigger caliber handguns and the 22LR ones @ my former ranges back east! I did that because my hands needed a rest and I wanted to save on ammunition costs.

I do that out here too!

I don't take SO many guns to the range @ one time anymore either... unless we are having our 'shoots' with our gun friends and EVERYONE has a truck load of guns! Grin. It is much easier to clean them all the way that I do it NOW.

Catherine

MIL-DOT
May 27, 2008, 10:35 AM
I also have a well rounded stable of toys, and i don't own a single .22.either.
I've been considering a stainless Marlin 60 for some time, but it still remains just that......a consideration. I also spend more time firing my pellet rifle than anything else lately.

Dravur
May 27, 2008, 10:41 AM
you could just get whatever you want without having to be talked into it by an internet crowd.....

hankdatank1362
May 27, 2008, 11:01 AM
Because it's the first step of the easiest way to get into the suppressor game.

scrat
May 27, 2008, 11:11 AM
I bought a .22 because they are cheap to shoot. I can spend $13.49 and have a weekends worth of ammo.

It does not serve a real purpose other than enjoyment.

basically I love to shoot and .22 is the cheapest ammo to shoot so that is what I end up shooting the most. very well point. i can go to walmart buy a brick of 500. then take the time and have a really good shooting session. all in all for only 13 bucks. same time clean up is just as easy or easier. As people tend to not clean up a 22 as much as they would clean up a better gun. Its just cheaper to shoot. Then they are suprisingly really accurate. hardly any recoil.

mbt2001
May 27, 2008, 11:15 AM
The number one reason I think is that you can purchase 10,000 rounds for a few hundred dollars... 1,000 rounds for like $40.00

Brian Dale
May 27, 2008, 11:56 AM
I like them because they're fun for me to shoot. I like cheap practice, too. I also like to teach new shooters, and it's handy to be able to hand them something that has low muzzle blast and miniscule recoil.

It's unusual for a grown shooter not to own any .22s, but I won't claim that it's wrong. It's like having a household with no coffee cups: some people simply don't use them. You can spend your money on centerfire ammo if you prefer to do that.

I wouldn't be without coffee cups or .22s, myself. :)

conw
May 27, 2008, 12:01 PM
a) Practical practice - almost everyone has a few kinks they can work out. I mean, are you REALLY at the top of your game? Few people would say money is no object, and a .22 will save you money AND allow you practice without wear and tear on other guns, AND without any (much) recoil. Good for working your kinks out - it really is. It's like approaching a problem from a different angle. And you know the mantra here is you can't practice enough!

b) "Sub caliber" - this is an interesting concept. If you are into imagining SHTF scenarios, a .22 is worth having simply because it IS the cheapest shooting gun, and you can stockpile 5000 rounds for $120 easy (or 15,000 for $360!). Do you have 15000 rounds for any of your other guns? The idea here is, use a .22 for the small game you need when you can. And you still have to practice even if the economy etc crashes, so there you go.

Funderb
May 27, 2008, 12:14 PM
the question is not "WHY?" it is "WHY NOT?"


without the kick boom, whatever, does it not still fire a bullet that when properly placed can kill anything?

#shooter
May 27, 2008, 12:36 PM
I seriously get more enjoyment after 20 rounds of 30-06 than after 200 round of .22

If you can financially afford to plink with or not get a sore shoulder with 30-06 and do not enjoy the 22, then there is no real reason to get a 22. Most people like the 22 because it is cheap (which means more range time) and low recoil (also more range time).

3KillerBs
May 27, 2008, 12:39 PM
If you don't personally enjoy shooting .22s I can only think of two possible reasons to get one.

1. If you believe it likely that you will have reason to introduce newbies to shooting -- especially a timid person or a wavering anti-gun person. While it is not required to begin a newbie with a .22 its hard to deny that a western-styled, .22 revolver is probably one of the least intimidating guns on earth. It goes "crack" instead of "BOOM", nothing whooshes at your face, and it doesn't try to leap out of your hands. Its downright friendly. :)

A .22 semi-auto, like my Mark III may be easier to actually shoot well than a .22 revolver, but the magazine, slide, and general techi-ness makes it more intimidating to someone utterly unfamiliar with guns. But its great for newbies who aren't scared of guns.

2. If you have reason to suspect that you might have an injury or develop a medical condition that requires "no recoil" and live in a state with a waiting period on gun purchases.

Otherwise, if you're happy with what you've got you don't need to spend money because others think you should.

However, you might consider the challenge factor involved in bullet diameter. My DH can obliterate the X from an NRA B-8 target with his 9mm if he hits it 3-4 times. I have to hit it at least 8-10 times to do the same. So if we fire the same number of bullets I have to be a better shot to accomplish the challenge.

Whether that matters to you or not depends on whether you enjoy upping the difficulty in that fashion. :)

tank mechanic
May 27, 2008, 12:49 PM
Don't forget the 22lr shotshells! Perfect for dispatching mice in a garage. Way more fun than setting traps.

IMHO that alone is worth having a fire arm in 22lr.

CDignition
May 27, 2008, 01:12 PM
IF you get bored, you aren't doing anything thats challenging.. set up some eggs on traffic cones and lay down money to see how many u can hit..change the distance if its too easy.. its all a matter of perspective. IF a hard kicking abusive rifle is what makes u happy, and thats all about it that makes u happy, then u are not going to want a 22.. but if marksmanship and good shooting fundamentals are what you're after, 22 is a good thing to get into.

M60
May 27, 2008, 01:49 PM
Because with the right ammo and suppressor, you can take small game with just a "click" and a "whack". This could be very usefull someday.

-Mark.

http://m-mason.smugmug.com/photos/224938495_VLHeR-L.jpg

TallPine
May 27, 2008, 01:58 PM
.22 LR has a lower carbon footprint :p

Blackbeard
May 27, 2008, 02:04 PM
How about simple math:

.22LR
-----------------------------
Rifle -- $150
1000 rounds -- $30
TOTAL: $180

.223
---------------------------------
Rifle -- FREE (you already own)
1000 rounds -- $400
TOTAL: $400

So, if you shoot 1000 rounds a month, it costs you half as much, even if you buy a new rifle every trip!

SG1
May 27, 2008, 02:09 PM
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/Switchgod/motivatora5e5ece7b541f27f490feafbd7.jpg

Because when these guys attack, you'll want to be ready!

jdc1244
May 27, 2008, 02:20 PM
A CZ 452 American with a good scope on bags target shooting is very addictive, for me, anyway. A great and inexpensive way to spend the afternoon trying to get the groups smaller and be more consistent.

Big Boomer
May 27, 2008, 09:44 PM
cheap, fun and all that stuff.

But there is ONE big reason that lingers in the back of everyones head.

For a SHTF purpose or camping, being stranded, there is nothing that can kill as far or as many things with carrying the most ammo. You can pack around 1000 rounds of ammo and still be fairly comfortable.

In addition, they can run dirty and keep on shooting great.

ZombieHunter
May 27, 2008, 11:16 PM
+1 to all of the above.

Cheap
SHTF
Newbies
Low Maintance

sm
May 27, 2008, 11:41 PM
Ok..maybe is a stupid thought...convince me why I should get a .22 cal gun...

Reason 49:
Your hair will turn gray, then fall out, while your gut gets too big to see your feet, if you don't own and shoot a .22.

Reason 321:
Dead drop gorgeous babe in tight jeans shooting a Colt Woodsman will not look your direction or give you the time of day, if you are not shooting a .22.

Reason 129: Young , tanned, hard body stud puppy, shooting a S&W Model 18, will not even give a gal a look, or acknowledge she exists, if she is not shooting a .22.

lee n. field
May 27, 2008, 11:47 PM
but I cannot find a reason why I should spend my hard earned dollars to buy a 22 caliber rifle and/or handgun.

If you see a reason to have a .22, don't buy one. It's a free country (mostly, for the moment, so we loudly tell ourselves and the world, anyway).

pyle
May 27, 2008, 11:47 PM
Reason # 675:

Get one just so you'll have one. I have a few guns I would never part with "just because I didn't have one already"....

Makes no sense but it makes me feel good. Only problem is it's a never ending quest - which might or might not be a "problem".... :scrutiny:

Mac45
May 28, 2008, 12:39 AM
you could just get whatever you want without having to be talked into it by an internet crowd.....
Best answer yet:)

That's why there are so many different kinds of guns. There's something out there for everyone.
Get what makes YOU happy, and go have fun!

Dookie
May 28, 2008, 02:16 AM
Take your centerfires and go tree squirrel hunting, for food, and you will understand.
"What squirrel, where did it go, it was right there, that tree sure is moist."

To top it off, a 22LR is THE most accurate round you will shoot 50 yards and under, I have seen bench rest after bench rest CF shooters fall to the lowly 22LR.

And if you don't like it then so what, you don't have to. I don't care much for centerfires but I still own them.

qajaq59
May 28, 2008, 06:50 AM
but I cannot find a reason why I should spend my hard earned dollars to buy a 22 caliber rifle and/or handgun. OK, I have the answer. Don't buy the .22. There, now you're all set........... :D

CCR
May 28, 2008, 10:33 AM
Fun and cheap to shoot

Dravur
May 28, 2008, 05:40 PM
Don't get me wrong..I like to hit the target of course...but I still like the boom and kick..

Well then... Here is your only answer, the only answer you will need.

Get the .22 and shoot it, but after every shot, you can have Dick Butkis kick you in the shoulder while firing off a firecracker....

There ya go. The answer to it all.

I have achieved Nirvana.....

or, you could just buy whatever you want to shoot.

ROMAK IV
May 28, 2008, 11:44 PM
"When poodles attack!...

Brian Dale
May 29, 2008, 12:17 AM
"When poodles attack!...You mean that I didn't have to spend all that money on an AR? :confused:

bukijin
May 30, 2008, 04:43 AM
..subsonic ammo..

Gunsby_Blazen
May 30, 2008, 04:48 AM
.22s are a load of fun. I am thinking about getting another one. If you don't already have one you should get yourself one. Ammo is cheap and they are great for plinking and target shooting. While your at it, get a rifle and a handgun....

Kind of Blued
May 30, 2008, 05:11 AM
I'll just say this:

I went shooting today up in the mountains with some new friends/ex-strangers. We shot the following:

Bohica Arms Far 50 (.50 BMG rifle)
AK-47
16" Customized M4gery
Two different AR-15 Std. A2 20"
SKS
Mosin-Nagant 91/30

Considering such, the most fun I had all day was shooting:

an iron-sighted .22LR military training rifle w/ a five round mag

and

a Ruger 10/22 w/ a 4X scope

Why? I have no idea. That's just what happened. :)

mike101
May 30, 2008, 05:50 AM
Good luck getting your guns from Italy into this country.

McCall911
May 30, 2008, 07:10 AM
I agree with just about every other poster so far: You should get one just for the sheer enjoyment of shooting.

Now if I could only convince myself that I need to buy a .22...

:o

:D

Funderb
May 31, 2008, 07:00 PM
with the ammo you're buying, 300 for a .22 setup is not much.

wadeh
May 31, 2008, 07:36 PM
I have several weapons and shoot them as much as I can afford to. The .308, 6mm, 9mm, 12 ga, 30-06, .223 and .44 I cannot shoot nearly as much as I would like. The 22's, however; I can aford to shoot a lot. I concider myself a pretty good rifle shot. That is because I have shot more rounds with a 22 than I can even begin to estimate. when I shoot the 22, I practice the same breathing, sighting, trigger control and positions that I do with a high powered rifle. Unless you are very wealthy, most folks cannot afford to go through thousands of rounds of high power rifle ammo. I know that I can't. But I can shoot up a whole bunch of 22's. Kind of like a hitter going to the batting cage.

searcher451
May 31, 2008, 07:54 PM
If you need to be convinced by the chatter of folks who frequent this forum, you are beyond help ... and helping. The .22 is a time-honored round that can provide hours of inexpensive training -- and fun -- at the local range. But I'll wager that you already knew that.

mr.trooper
June 5, 2008, 05:08 AM
sounds like the OP doesn't know much about the .22lr.

Stevie-Ray
June 5, 2008, 07:11 PM
Hmmm.....my last purchase was a .22LR. That makes six that I have. There is no better fun than a .22LR, be it rifle or handgun. I think everyone should have at least 2, one of each. If you're bored with .22s, try something like an Anschutz or another tack driver, and try your luck at one-holing at 100 yards. Actually I've tried this with my old Stevens #34, and I'm quite amazed at the accuracy of the lowly .22. My neighbor and I spent 5 hours at the 100 yd range with just our .22s, and had a blast. Actually, I'm going to spend some more money on a decent scope for mine, since I know what it is capable of when I do my part. Carrying a good .22 pistol through a huge forest is also one of the things I did many years ago. Targets of opportunity appear in gulleys and two-tracks endlessly. But even at an indoor range, I seem to be able to put at least 200 rounds through a .22 or two to my feeble 40 or 50 rounds through my carry weapons. It's usually my final weapons, and it's actually quite relaxing.

ArmedBear
June 5, 2008, 07:13 PM
Get the .22 and shoot it, but after every shot, you can have Dick Butkis kick you in the shoulder while firing off a firecracker....


LOL

To save money, just have him clap his hands over your ears instead of the firecracker.

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