Cooper's Books...Worth Reading?


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Skunkabilly
August 20, 2003, 07:53 PM
I wanted to check out Art of the Rifle and Ride High, Shoot Straight and Speak the Truth (?) but they were out of them at the bookstore yesterday, and I may just order them online.

Are they worth getting, or are they kind of...well...a series of blurbs like in the back of that magazine Cooper writes for?

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Dave Markowitz
August 20, 2003, 08:13 PM
I've read The Art of the Rifle, and to be honest, I was underwhelmed. It's not bad, but I don't think it's worth the ~$30 it goes for.

mete
August 20, 2003, 08:14 PM
I have the Shoot Stra ight and some others , yes they are good books very interesting info ,well written.

WT
August 20, 2003, 08:26 PM
LtCol. Cooper is a National Treasure. He is one of the very, very few firearms instructors to have killed someone - in his case 3 Jap soldiers with a .45 ACP.

His contribution to firearms training is immeasurable.

I like his books.

Lone_Gunman
August 20, 2003, 08:28 PM
To Ride, Shoot Straight, and so forth and so on is a great book.

You won't be able to put it down.

Art of the Rifle was so-so, and I wouldnt buy it again.

ReadyontheRight
August 20, 2003, 08:30 PM
I certainly like his books, but I think Jack O'Connor's "Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns" is a better book for explaining basic marksmanship along with very detailed info on trigger control, sights, use of sling, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060713518/qid=1061425723/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/103-1217692-8195025?v=glance&s=books

MacPelto
August 20, 2003, 08:34 PM
I have them both. 'The Art' is an excellent book on the fundamentals of riflery. 'To Ride' is plain old good storytelling, for the most part, especially if you like Cooper's writing style. Both good, but 'To Ride' is the one that I sometimes re-read.

garrettwc
August 20, 2003, 08:34 PM
The Art of the Rifle is a very good primer for someone who has never used one before (like me). It gave me a decent grounding in the basics.

If you are already competent with a rifle then you will find it as the others commented, nothing revolutionary.

I have not read the other one.

ReadyontheRight
August 20, 2003, 08:36 PM
Here is The Art of the Rifle for $16.80 plus $3.25 shipping:

http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=590135&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1

And here is The Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns from $2.35 and up plus $3.25 shipping:

http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=3455934&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1

Kaylee
August 20, 2003, 08:42 PM
what Lone_Gunman said.

BTW... Interlibrary Loan is a great way to preview books you might want to buy.:)


-K

Will Fennell
August 20, 2003, 09:03 PM
Skunk,
To Ride... is a good read that will make you think a bit. I loan my copy out to friends, and all seem to be happy they read it.

The Art of the Rifle is a slow dry book, but most instructional manuals are:rolleyes: If you want to learn to shoot a rifle.....I mean really hit stuff, this book is EXCELLENT. This is about engaging targets, not "hammering the 100 yard berm with your AK from the hip". The "Art" teachs fundamentals of position shooting, and how it pertains to field shooting, and ALOT more.

If you want to be a RIFLEMAN, even if you are already a good shot, you need to STUDY this book. I can think of no other reference piece that teacvhes riflery as well and as comprehensively as Cooper's The Art of the Rifle.

Edit,
Skunk, thanks for reminding me, I need to get my copy back from Lombardo:scrutiny:

Art Eatman
August 20, 2003, 09:31 PM
"To Ride" is good, as is "Another Country". If you enjoy his columns, "The Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip" is a hoot. I haven't read volume 2 the Gossip, yet.

Art

Edward429451
August 20, 2003, 09:38 PM
If you want to be a RIFLEMAN, even if you are already a good shot, you need to STUDY this book. I can think of no other reference piece that teacvhes riflery as well and as comprehensively as Cooper's The Art of the Rifle.

Thats exactly what I think of the book. I'm no novice with the rifle, but no master either, and I think it's an excellant book. I was reading it last night again.

QuickDraw
August 20, 2003, 09:39 PM
Well whatta ya know!I just ordered these last night on Amazon.:D


QuickDraw

Preacherman
August 20, 2003, 10:12 PM
I've got almost all the good Colonel's books, and recommend them highly. He's finally agreed to publish a book on his post-WWII exploits, including several rather secret trips to South America on behalf of the US Government. I don't know what the published title will be, but it's being discussed on the API List as "Sea Stories". It should be out toward the end of this year, God and the Colonel willing. Can't wait! :D

El Tejon
August 20, 2003, 10:22 PM
Preacherman, hip, hip, hooray!:D

Skunk, I believe they should be in every shooter's library. However, I admit to my pro-education bias.:cool:

another okie
August 20, 2003, 10:31 PM
To Ride is excellent in places. I have another of his books, a little pamphlet titled Principles of Personal Defense, which is outstanding.

Old Fuff
August 20, 2003, 10:32 PM
I know the man. He is controversial because he holds strong opinions and has never been hesitant in defending them. But most of them are based on personal experience that is far deeper then anything his critics can muster - who often nit-pick because they lack good arguments. Some of his books are better then others, but I never read one that I didn’t enjoy - and learn something. Jeff is a man of traditional values, and about as far away from being “Politically Correct” as you can get. Maybe that’s why I like him.

matis
August 21, 2003, 12:00 AM
Old Fuff said:
Jeff is a man of traditional values, and about as far away from being “Politically Correct” as you can get. Maybe that’s why I like him
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That's why I very much enjoy his writing, too. And he CAN sure write.



matis

444
August 21, 2003, 12:59 AM
I have enjoyed all his books, and I believe there is only one that I don't own. I even have a copy of Principles of Personal Defense autographed by the Colonel and a picture of me next to him as he is signing it. :D

roscoe
August 21, 2003, 02:07 AM
I have learned a LOT more from reading TFL and THR than from Art of the Rifle. I was expecting some sort of sacred knowledge, but it was all stuff you can get here.

I flip through it sometimes because I enjoy his quirky style, but that's about it. Really I should be spending the time at the range instead.

444
August 21, 2003, 07:44 AM
"I was expecting some sort of sacred knowledge, but it was all stuff you can get here. "

That might be the most important lesson in the book. The key to excellant shooting is no mystery, it is simply mastering the basics. Performing the basics of position, breathing, sight alignment, sight picture, and trigger squeeze. The sacred knowlege is that you will never be a good shot until you master these simple, basic concepts. The best shot in the world is simply doing these basics perfectly, every time.
I took a class at Front Sight and they are always talking about the three secrets.
The three secrets are sight alignment, sight picture, and trigger squeeze. Someone asked, why do you call that stuff a secret ? They said, to those people who don't shoot well, they are a secret.

FPrice
August 21, 2003, 08:13 AM
I have "To Ride..." and find it very interesting. Many (well, probably all) of the stories are written in a literary style that goes back a few decades. In a way it reminds me of Louis Lamour's non-western stories. I think you will like it.

I am going to have to get "The Art of The Rifle" someday, I could probably use it.

Soap
August 21, 2003, 10:19 AM
Worth reading!? Worth reading!? Are you on crack!? They're Cooper books, of course they're worth reading! :D

Mute
August 21, 2003, 11:17 AM
If you're cheap (or poor), you can borrow my copy of Art of the Rifle. Good book on the basics of good rifle marksmanship.

BigG
August 21, 2003, 11:51 AM
There is a lot of good info in both "Ride" and "Art" in my book.:cool:

Skunkabilly
August 21, 2003, 12:20 PM
OK y'all, I'm convinced..now to get that silly A+ certificate....

Mr Grinch
August 21, 2003, 01:47 PM
Skunk,

The fun part of the Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip series (a compendium of his expanded monthly missives), is that as you read, you get a look back at a couple of decades of history. There are references to all sorts of events that describe the changes in the world.

The folks that get their undies in a bunch over Cooper's attitude lack perspective. Take it as food for thought.

Grinch

mpthole
August 21, 2003, 01:56 PM
I'd say they are only worth reading because he is a living legend. I've never cared for his writing style and was unimpressed with To Ride... YMMV

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