Softest shooting .40 Pistol


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HKURAZ
May 27, 2008, 09:12 PM
Which 40 cal handgun would have the least amount of felt recoil and muzzle flip?

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jhco
May 27, 2008, 09:14 PM
my p229 is not bad i have 9mm that are worse but i know there are others that are better then the 229

rbernie
May 27, 2008, 09:18 PM
My P226s shoot most 40S&W loads softly, and my CZ75Bs are also very controllable. My M&Ps are demonstably 'whippier' than the above.

HKURAZ
May 27, 2008, 09:24 PM
I forgot to include sig. I shot a 226 in 9mm and it seemed to have more flip than my own HK USP in 9. That is why I did not include sig.

I shot a m&p40 and it was realy soft. Also babey eagle in 40 had low recoil too.

So lets add:

Walther P99
Sig 239
Sig 226
Babey Eagle

Z-Michigan
May 27, 2008, 09:29 PM
Recoil is very subjective. The only hard rule is that heavier guns will have less actual recoil; but that doesn't mean it will feel like less. I shot a Kahr M40 that didn't have much recoil. I've shot Glock .40's that weren't too bad, and I've found steel frame guns can feel hard kicking even with 9mm. Then I shoot full-house .357 in a steel snubbie and it doesn't bother me at all. Your best bet is to rent what you're interested in and see if it's OK for you.

jgo296
May 27, 2008, 09:34 PM
full size glock

sig2022shooter
May 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
I've heard that the Beretta PX4 Storm is exceptionally soft shooting due to its rotating barrel.

wnycollector
May 27, 2008, 10:40 PM
Then I shoot full-house .357 in a steel snubbie and it doesn't bother me at all.

I agree 100%!

copper4262
May 27, 2008, 10:42 PM
i agree with michigan - there are no hard rules on recoil - sure - everyone has different opinions on how a gun shoots and how easy it is to control the recoil - sure, some guns are going to have an obvious lean one way or the other - my plastic Kahr .45 recoils like you wouldn't believe (but its accurate!!!) but try the same round in a full size 1911 and your going to have a noticeable difference - but those are the extremes - if your looking strictly for a .40 that is easy to shoot - then get something heavy with a grip that feels good to you - i assume the .40 your looking for is not going to be a carry gun - personally i have never found a full size .40 that I liked carrying concealed - for concealment purposes i would recomend going down to a 9mm or a .45 - for me personally all of the compact .40s i have shot seem to be alot snappier then my 9's or 45's - but then again thats just me - see - someone else might hate the way .45's recoil -

If i had to vote on the .40 i liked the most based simply on recoil - well that would be easy - for ME its:

HK USP .40

greenjeans
May 27, 2008, 11:11 PM
Ruger P94

briansp82593
May 27, 2008, 11:15 PM
1. beretta 96
2. G35
3. USP

Jason_G
May 27, 2008, 11:17 PM
Beretta PX4, by FAR the softest shooting .40 out of all that I've shot. I dare say it has less recoil than alot of 9mm's I've shot.

Jason

Flash!
May 27, 2008, 11:22 PM
My Ruger P94 is one of my all time favorite shooting handguns.....

kentucky_smith
May 27, 2008, 11:33 PM
USP..

BullpupBen
May 27, 2008, 11:33 PM
I imagine the full sized USP .40 would have the least actual recoil as it has a built in recoil buffer which is sopposed to work quite well.

Of course recoil is subjective and some might feel steel guns recoil less or that the way your hand grips a Glock frame reduces the recoil.

Geno
May 27, 2008, 11:49 PM
I have wondered about this myself. After firing the G22 and G23, I asked myself why people subject themselves to such recoil for a tiny increase in power. Then, I fired the G24C...Lord have mercy it was worse yet! Then, I fired a P229 Equinox™. :banghead: Some day I'll learn to stop firing other folks' nice pistols.

bearmgc
May 27, 2008, 11:57 PM
Beretta 96, I agree. Sig 229 isn't bad either.

choochboost
May 28, 2008, 02:45 AM
The softest shooting 40 in my experience was a M&P. I was actually quite astonished.

riceboy72
May 28, 2008, 02:49 AM
I thought my Sig P229 was soft shooting. That is, until yesterday.

I shot a Heckler & Koch P2000 .40 and was very impressed with it. Recoil was very minor and not punishing like I think it is coming from the barrel of a compact or subcompact Glock. I liked this pistol so much and did so well with it, I'm now actively trying to find one to purchase.

Ltlabner
May 28, 2008, 09:16 AM
Recoil is very subjective. The only hard rule is that heavier guns will have less actual recoil; but that doesn't mean it will feel like less. I shot a Kahr M40 that didn't have much recoil. I've shot Glock .40's that weren't too bad, and I've found steel frame guns can feel hard kicking even with 9mm. Then I shoot full-house .357 in a steel snubbie and it doesn't bother me at all. Your best bet is to rent what you're interested in and see if it's OK for you.

+1

I've fired my Glock 23 a whole buch of times and don't find the recoil all that bad. Other folks think it's a pain.

OTOH I have a CZ-40P that while all aloy frame and heavier than the G23 seems like it kicks like a mule.

LawofThirds
May 28, 2008, 09:38 AM
Smith and Wesson 610

Although you're probably not looking for a revolver. It feels lighter than shooting 9mm out of a full sized 1911 to me.

kle
May 28, 2008, 11:59 AM
my H&K P7M10 shoots .40S&W pretty soft, at least compared to my buddy's Glock 23....I also have a vague recollection of a rented Sig shooting pretty easily, too.

jackdanson
May 28, 2008, 12:02 PM
I have a px4 in 9mm and it is pretty darn soft, I can imagine the .40 cal is also relatively soft.

cog099
May 28, 2008, 12:06 PM
Perhaps, it is just the way this pistol fits me, but the rotating barrel on the
PX4 seems to do a great job. I have been a fan of the .40 S&W, my first handgun was a Ruger P94(aluminum frame) .40 I bought in 1999. I own a Glock 23, Glock 22, S&W Sigma, Sig P239 DAK, and a CZ 40P, all of them in .40. The PX4 is by far the softest shooting .40 of them all. I would compare the recoil to my S&W 5906 shooting 9mm+P.
As a bonus the PX4 is the second most accurate pistol I own, behind only my Sig 239 9mm.
On a side note, my Glocks are the worst for me as far as recoil goes. I do not dislike Glocks, just my observation.

Z-Michigan
May 28, 2008, 12:33 PM
Ruger has never made the P95 (polymer frame) in .40 that I'm aware of. Only the aluminum framed P944.

MarcusWendt
May 28, 2008, 02:13 PM
I'll also add to the M&P votes. It's a real surprise. I also like my SIG P226ST all stainless.

Someone else mentioned the Walther P99. I'd strongly disagree with this. I love my P99, but I find it is the snappiest of all my .40's

Deanimator
May 28, 2008, 03:18 PM
I've fired my Glock 23 a whole buch of times and don't find the recoil all that bad. Other folks think it's a pain.
I've got a Glock 22. While I like it, it's VERY lively with the old Blazer 180gr. FMJ-TC load. It influenced me to buy a Glock 19 instead of a Glock 23.

nwilliams
May 28, 2008, 03:26 PM
M&P40 or Sig 229 in my experience are the two softest shooting .40's I've ever owned.

1KPerDay
May 28, 2008, 03:30 PM
I've got a Glock 22. While I like it, it's VERY lively with the old Blazer 180gr. FMJ-TC load. It influenced me to buy a Glock 19 instead of a Glock 23.

too bad... the G23 actually 'kicks' less than the 22. I've had 3 guys try them back to back and they all agreed. weird.

boatguy
May 28, 2008, 03:30 PM
I shoot an STI Edge in 40 S&W. I find it very pleasant to shoot. My wife likes to shoot it :) ( she usually chooses it for our range trips) and she does not like to shoot any of the other 40 S&W's. The only negative would be the price. I think it was worth the money but I am a gun nut.

ScotZ
May 28, 2008, 04:32 PM
The "Soft feel" is the reason I bought my .40 SIG 229. A friend let me shoot his SIG 229 and I fell in love the very first shot I took.

The feeling you are talking about is very subjective. Many many variables ultimatly come into play.

DFW1911
May 28, 2008, 05:19 PM
Someone else mentioned the Walther P99. I'd strongly disagree with this. I love my P99, but I find it is the snappiest of all my .40's

Mine too!

I agree with the others re: the Sig229. I've also shot a Glock 22C (c for compensated) which was a breeze to keep on target and the recoil was really nothing to speak of. I guess the compensator works to some degree. I don't know what it would do to your night vision, however.

Jason_G
May 28, 2008, 05:36 PM
I'm surprised at the number of folks saying "M&P". I like the M&P, but the Beretta PX4 in .40 is softer than the M&P in 9mm to me :eek:.

Jason

Zundfolge
May 28, 2008, 05:52 PM
Steyr M40 or S40 ... I own one of each and they're the softest shooting .40s I've ever shot.

Erik
May 28, 2008, 11:06 PM
Between the ergonomics, the design and the weight, the 1911s chambered in .40 S&W that I have fired have always seemed to transmit the least amount of felt recol. But as mentioned, it is a very subjective thing.

KadicDeshi
May 28, 2008, 11:33 PM
Based on the 40s that I've shot, I'd say the Browning Hi-Power. But I will admit that I've shot relatively few 40s.

Barrett

FireArmFan
May 28, 2008, 11:54 PM
I shot a Heckler & Koch P2000 .40 and was very impressed with it. Recoil was very minor and not punishing like I think it is coming from the barrel of a compact or subcompact Glock. I liked this pistol so much and did so well with it, I'm now actively trying to find one to purchase

I agree. My .40 P2000 takes recoil very well. On all the .40S&W's I've shot, I've never really experienced the "snappy" recoil I hear so much about with .40's.

lechiffre
May 29, 2008, 12:49 AM
beretta cougar
i find the recoil of the .40 cougar to be about equal with the 9mm m9.

biggiesmalls
May 29, 2008, 03:05 AM
from personal experience, beretta 96 and glock 22 are lighter to handle than sig 229 and even 226. never shot a usp though, so i wouldn't know. my kahr p40 is definitely one of the more unbearable ones i think.

HKURAZ
May 29, 2008, 03:30 AM
I my self have a CZ 75 Compact .40. At first it was very snappy. Changed the main spring to 24# and it is very nice now.

I shot a m&p40 and it did have less recoil than the CZ even after the mod. But the CZ shot more accurately and to my surprise faster on target.

Glock 22 was ok.

HK USP 40 is feels soft but the slide kid of goes through a wave of energy dampened by the dual springs.

From what I hear PX4 might win here, then the M&P or Steyr.

HKURAZ
May 29, 2008, 10:40 PM
I just shot a beretta 96 and it was snappier than the CZ 75 Compact 40. The CZ its nice now with hogue rap around grip and 24# main spring. Felt recoil with the grip now is about the same as the M&P.

SDGlock23
May 29, 2008, 10:42 PM
My vote goes to the M&P. I enjoy my Glock .40's, but alot of folks think they're too snappy.

J Lambs
May 30, 2008, 04:20 PM
NOT THE S&W40VE, that's for sure!!

texas bulldog
May 30, 2008, 04:49 PM
Based on the 40s that I've shot, I'd say the Browning Hi-Power. But I will admit that I've shot relatively few 40s.


i was wondering if anyone would mention the BHP. maybe it's just because i love that platform, but it's an all-steel, full-size .40. of the few .40s i've gotten to fire, it was definitely the most tame.

Eyesac
May 30, 2008, 07:26 PM
I vote for non compact Glocks or any poly fullsize for that matter.

ARTiger
May 31, 2008, 02:46 AM
I used to have a Beretta 96 and it wasn't bad at all. Recently shot a FNP40. . . nice soft shooter. I like it a lot and will probably be buying the 45 version soon.

Mark K. C.
May 31, 2008, 03:34 AM
Add another Beretta 96 to the list. Mine is a rose to shoot.

Snowdog
May 31, 2008, 03:34 AM
Zundfolge beat me to it. There's no doubt in my mind that my Steyr M40 is the least "snappiest" and most mellow of all the .40S&W I've owned or fired. I'm sure it has something to do with the massive slide and grip angle/contour.

Fishman777
May 31, 2008, 12:25 PM
I find that recoil is based largely on the weight of the gun and the grip. Guns that don't fit me very well are not as controllable as guns that are a good fit. My GP100 with hogue grips is about the perfect gun for me. It feels so natural. I can shoot nasty .357 magnum loads and it still feels more controllable than almost any autoloader in almost any caliber. I guess the trick is to find the gun that fits you the best. I think that you won't really know this until you shoot the gun.

Z71
June 1, 2008, 10:59 PM
For it's size, a S&W 4046 is the nicest shooting .40 I've shot. Also about the thickest hunks of stainless steel semi-auto sidearms made!

Does have more muzzle flip than a 9mm, but is easy to shoot never the less.

M47 Dragon
June 1, 2008, 11:28 PM
SIG 226 for me. I have an M&P .40 and the SIG just seems so much smoother.

Bart Noir
June 2, 2008, 04:09 PM
Unable to do the comparison, since I sold my Steyr M40 before I bought the Px4. But that Beretta is my answer to this question.

Bart Noir

CountGlockula
June 2, 2008, 04:32 PM
G35 long slide.

stevereno1
June 2, 2008, 05:49 PM
Probably the biggest, heaviest, handgun that you can find. I like the Glocks, personally, but they aren't for everybody, as seen on almost every thread on here.

Ltlabner
June 3, 2008, 11:32 AM
I just put 400 rounds through my new-to-me Glock 22 (from cdnninvestments.com) last night.

I usually shoot a G23 so to me the G22 was a soft shooting creampuff. I realize my perception is probably different since I am used to the .40S&W in a smaller platform.

md7
June 3, 2008, 05:07 PM
Recoil isn't too bad for me in the Glock 23 or P226. The edge going to the P226. For me anyway.

ashtxsniper
June 3, 2008, 05:16 PM
Sig 226/229, H&K USP

Peter M. Eick
June 7, 2008, 07:01 PM
Springfield's P9 Ultra IPSC Longslide.

Solid steel, very heavy and ported.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/40_collection.jpg

Its the one on the right.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/ports.jpg

here are the ports at the front of the slide.

You can push the 40 well into 10mm territory with this gun as it is fully supported and very well made.

blitzen
June 8, 2008, 12:32 AM
I've only shot two. I bought a Glock 22 and a BHP in .40 S&W at a gun show so I had the chance to shoot them both side by side. Long story short, I sold the Glock because I thought it was pretty flippy. The all steel High Power is a thumber that is easy to shoot well. The slide on the .40 HP is quite a bit thicker and heavier than the slide on the 9mm version.

Varmonter
June 8, 2008, 01:10 AM
subjective at best.perceived and felt are 2 different animals.
the weight of the gun and the weight of the bullet being hurled down the barrel
will make a big dif in felt recoil.But a gun that is too small for your hand may
hurt some also. I shoot a p239 in 40 and it is fine for me. but a bigger
heavier gun would feel better(less recoil) i guess.
my LIL naa guardian in 32acp feels about the same(well almost) as my sig 40.

They Call Me 'E'
June 8, 2008, 01:51 AM
+1 for the PX4 vote. Excellent weapon, very light recoil.

cowssurf
June 8, 2008, 02:02 AM
Some have mentioned the PX4 which I've never shot. I've heard the Stoeger Cougar in .40 is like shooting a 9mm, because of the rotating barrel, which design of course, was the precursor to the PX4. I have the Stoeger Cougar in 9mm, and I can attest to very manageable recoil and an ease at getting the barrel back on target for a follow up shot.

Scratchshooter40
June 8, 2008, 02:08 AM
H&K USP 40 so far from what I have shot. I have 8 variations of .40 S&W handguns from Beretta 96's to S&W M&P40. I shoot the Berettas IDPA and carry with the local S.O. when called upon. Like some of the previous comments, perception is reality and what fits you may not necessarialy fit another. None of them are unmanagable. The Stoeger Cougar is a close 2nd to perceived recoil though.

Glockorama
June 8, 2008, 05:09 AM
+1 on the Stoeger Cougar. Softest shooting 40 I've ever fired.:)

jlangton
June 8, 2008, 07:15 PM
I was very surprised by my Ruger KP944. I own a P89 9mm,and the .40 actually feels the same as my P89 when shooting. With all of the internet talk of how "snappy" the .40 is, I assumed it would be more of a handful,but honestly,there's so little difference I can hardly tell the difference between the two.
JL

Coronach
June 8, 2008, 07:37 PM
M&P40 is very soft (Sorry, Jason - never shot a PX4). The BHP is not bad, but the 40 is snappier than its 9mm brother.

Mike

wristtwister
June 9, 2008, 09:04 PM
I've got a Hi Point and a Smith 4006... actually a couple of them, and the 4006 is a really smooth shooting gun. The Hi Point is a BUG (big ugly gun), but the laser sight on it makes it pretty accurate, and the 4006 has a reasonably smoothe 2nd shot recovery, depending on stance.

Almost any big bore pistol is going to jump a bit, but I like the 4006 for staying down and being accurate up to about 50 yards (limits of our range). I shot a bunch of 40's before I settled on the 4006, including a bunch of the sissie pistols made out of polymer, and just plain liked the 4006 for the best all round performance.

Usually if you miss, it's the loose nut behind the grip... not the gun...:D

WT

Jason_G
June 9, 2008, 11:17 PM
M&P40 is very soft (Sorry, Jason - never shot a PX4).
LOL, it's okay. You should give it a try. The thing looks like a garden hose spray nozzle, but that rotating barrel really does make a difference.

Jason

2ndamd
June 10, 2008, 12:01 AM
Without a doubt the softest shooting .40 cal is the Beretta Px4 Storm.

I almost bought one just because it felt like a 9mm.

Good guns.

gtmtnbiker98
June 10, 2008, 02:48 PM
M&P 40 gets my vote, followed by my P229R.

grenadier
June 10, 2008, 05:52 PM
All things being equal, a heavier pistol will have less felt-recoil than a lighter pistol.

However, not all things are equal. Polymer frames, while weighing less than steel or aluminum alloy frames, have a good bit of flex to them, which helps soak up some of the felt recoil as well.

To me, a Sig P226 all-stainless steel pistol is the softest-shooting .40 pistol out there, since it tips the scales at a hefty 42 ounces, unloaded.

An alloy framed Sig P226 and a Glock 22 have about the same felt recoil, even though the P226 weighs more by about 8 ounces, give or take. A Kahr T40 (all stainless) has a bit less felt recoil than either.

Of course, you can also get a Glock 22 C, which has the porting on the slide and barrel, and that feels softer than any of the above (except for the all stainless Sig P226).

Boris Barowski
June 10, 2008, 06:18 PM
that would probably be the Sig P226 X-FIVE for me

DWARREN123
June 10, 2008, 06:25 PM
I have GLOCKs in 40 S&W (G23 G27) and they are softer than the steal framed guns I have had. I would have thought the steal frame would have been better but the plastic guns seem to absorb recoil better.

M&PVolk
June 10, 2008, 06:35 PM
I have only shot a Kahr CW40 and my M&P 40, but of the two, the M&P definitely feels softer. Then again, I didn't find either to be unpleasant at all.

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