Will we ever see a State try to secede again?


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SodaPop
August 20, 2003, 09:54 PM
Link (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/8/20/161110.shtml)


Its goal: to take over a huge area of the United States from Texas to California to Oregon and Washington and hand over the region to Mexico.


Given the immigration and birth rate of the Hispanic population in the Southwest I wouldn't rule it out.

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AR-10
August 20, 2003, 10:07 PM
secede- to withdraw formally from an organization.

To secede with success would be surprising.:p

The federal government frowns on that sort of thing.

cuchulainn
August 20, 2003, 10:10 PM
Hawaii has and active secessionist movement.

johnpmahler
August 20, 2003, 10:13 PM
bottom line is, those folks left Mexico & Central America to come to the US. They may send the money back home to support the folks, but they don't seem to have any desire to move back at all.

Besides, Chicano Identity Politics is an illusion...the Pueto Ricans, Costa Ricans, Columbians, Hondurans, etc, etc, no way want to suddenly become Mexicans....

John

number6
August 20, 2003, 10:14 PM
I think the Texans tried it, the Arizonans too. Secessionist that is!

Navy joe
August 20, 2003, 10:21 PM
Suceed? Well Cali is not doing so hot.
Secede? Dang I wish they would. Take their little blue states and run off to form a crime ridden utopia and then blame it on all the guns in the red states. Hey waitaminute, they do that now!

The last secession:
The bad news: It strengthened the union.
The good news: It strengthened the union.

The fact that we have to live with is ,that right cause or not(See location, figger it out), the outcome made states rights forever subordinate and helped create the Federal 800lb gorilla we have today sitting in all our statehouses.
The benefit is that I firmly believe that if secession had suceeded :D we would have seen a "balkanization" effect, everytime some state got its knickers wadded we would fracture into smaller and smaller groups. We woulda become a bunch of miserable little countries or confederations and probably even France coulda come back and had their way with us.

I wish we could peacefully go back to less Federal and more state Government/power without the S word popping up, but I do believe the Gorilla intends to stick around.

AZTOY
August 20, 2003, 10:25 PM
Its goal: to take over a huge area of the United States from Texas to California to Oregon and Washington and hand over the region to Mexico.

Thay want there land back.

Living 10 mile from the border, this could be very interesting :D

El Tejon
August 20, 2003, 10:26 PM
When the Northeast tried it a Southern President threatened to hang them all. When the South tried it to preserve their "right" to own slaves, a Yankee army pounded them.

When the silly Socialists in this movement try it, I hope they meet the same fate as Johnny Reb!:cool:

number6
August 20, 2003, 10:33 PM
I sort of welcome a Civil War pitting the leftists against the righties. Why you ask? Because the majority of Leftists don't own guns! :p :D :neener:

another okie
August 20, 2003, 10:40 PM
Succeed? We're pretty committed to mediocrity here in Oklahoma.
Secede? Where would our welfare checks come from?

SodaPop
August 20, 2003, 11:33 PM
:o :banghead:

MODERATORS CHANGE THE SPELLING BEFORE TOO MANY PEOPLE SEE THAT!!

SECEDE
SECEDE
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Art Eatman
August 20, 2003, 11:37 PM
Even collitch don't do too better at remedjul spellin.

:D, Art

SodaPop
August 20, 2003, 11:38 PM
SUCCESS!!!:D

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