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sig220mw
May 29, 2008, 04:10 AM
I want a 44 special revolver and have been looking at the cimarron colt SAA
clones. Can anyone who has had or still has one tell me about their quality. I know s&w makes a model 21 and 24 but they are really expensive.

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dogngun
May 29, 2008, 08:27 AM
Check the site; http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/ for more information.
IIRC, they are imported from Uberti, as are most of the SAA copies available in the US . The various sellers in this country are all selling pretty much the same gun( Either Uberti or Pietta) with different degrees of finish and polish.
I have a newer Pietta SAA and an older Uberti, and I really like them both.
Cimmaron seems to have a good rep among cowboy action folks.
I just shoot mine and sometimes hunt with one or carry it for GP.
Both mine are .45 Colt.
ADDED: After checking the site, I believe they import both Pietta and Uberti SAA revolvers-the stainless SAA's are made by Pietta. I have one of these for several years and it is excellent-very accurate and a beautiful revolver.
Hope this is of some help.

mark

21H40
May 29, 2008, 08:57 AM
I just got a cimarron model p in 44 special a couple of weeks ago. I love it. Cimarron takes the imports and refits and refinishes them (from what I've been told) so that they are a couple steps ahead of the standard uberti.

I haven't been able to try different loads - the only loads I found in stock around here were a corbon JHP and winchester cowboy 250 grain. I didn't try the corbon load. The winchesters were fun to shoot. Recoil was enough to know you had a centerfire pistol, but less than my 45 ACP.

I highly recommend that you get a screwdriver set that has thin, hollowground flat tips so you can take everything apart without ruining the screws. Get a good gunsmithing book or 5 that talks about colt SAA's. Mine benefited from some very minor buffing and has a great trigger.

So to sum it up: the downside seems to be that 44 special rounds are expensive or hard to find in stores. Cimarron's seem to be great colt clones and great single action pistols.

Hope this helps.:D

Virginian
May 29, 2008, 11:55 AM
I have two Cimarron Model Ps, 7-1/2" bbls., in 44 Special. I fitted them with simulated one-piece ivory grips and I love them. Very nice shooters. I changed the trigger/bolt spring, and the only non-coil spring left is the mainspring. I have had good results talking with Cimarron when I ordered some spare screws/parts in the past.
I bought two with the idea of getting into SASS, but eye problems killed that, so now I am going to sell one Cimarron and one Ruger Vaquero 44. Already sold the Marlin.

Seafarer12
May 29, 2008, 07:12 PM
I am sure they aren't all like this but I looked at a Pjr at a gun shop and couldn't believe how crappy the trigger was. I mean there was a lot of creep and take up in the trigger. Not something I am use to in a single action. I was mainly interested because they make the Pjr in a 32-20 and 32hr dual cylinder model. Anyway the thing was too small for me anyway.

AK103K
May 29, 2008, 07:44 PM
I bought one used, that looked new, didnt even have the ring on the cylinder. Trigger locked up while dry firing, before I even got it out to shoot.

Sent it to Bob Munden and it was fine after that and had a great trigger too.

They make nice looking guns, fit and finish are great, not to sure about the innards though.

mec
May 29, 2008, 08:41 PM
The Cimarron Model Ps are made to shoot. they have coil/plunger hand springs to promote longiivity and generally time up very well. they have over tall front sights so that you can file them down to point of aim. some shoot right on as to windage but frequently, they shoot to the left -even from a fixed rest. When this happens, it can be corrected by screwing the barrel in a bit farther using a barrel/frame wrench to preven distortion.

Cimarron may get the pick of Uberti production and or may inspect them prior to shipment but the chief predictable difference in cimarron arms and other Ubertis is that the proof marks are well hidden and the Cimarron address line and patent dates are present in the correct places.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=65948&d=1193154131
This is a 38-40. I have a 32-20 that shoots just as well. They are every bit as accurate as a USFA. Both hit on horizontally and both had minor issues that didn't affect accuracy. The 38/40 dropped the locking bolt prematurely and the 32-20 had some easily corrected end float.

sig220mw
May 29, 2008, 08:43 PM
Thanks for the response guys, your opinions are useful. As far as ammo goes, I load my own so it won't be a problem. Thanks again.

PRM
May 31, 2008, 11:34 PM
I have been shooting Ubertis for around 30 years - mostly cap-n-ball and have had good luck with them.

I own 2 Cimarron SAs one Lightening and one Bisley The Lightening right out of the box would not fire, the firing pin was too short and would barely dent the primers. Cimarron offered to fix it, but it was going to take several weeks turn around- so I had a local gunsmith fabricate one. Problem solved - great little gun. The Bisley has been one continual problem. Every spring in it has failed at one point or another. Even had to replace the hammer to get it working right. The cylinder was so heavily buffed in the finish at the factory that it would not lock up. Had to replace it also. I have over the cost of the gun again in repairs.
You can get a lemon in everything. Just check them out good either before buying or as soon as you receive them. The Italian guns don't compare with the quality of a Colt or USFA, but then they are a fraction of the cost and make good shooters.

ravenwolf71
June 1, 2008, 12:50 AM
Go online and check out Gun Test Magazines reviews. It might cost some money to read the whole review but it will save you money in the long run.I believe they gave it a "Do Not Buy" rating a few years back.

reggiec
September 27, 2012, 08:12 AM
Cimarron Arms; Just a word of caution for any of you that are considering purchasing any products from Cimarron Arms. I just want to tell you that I purchased a new, matching set of sixguns that came from this company several years ago, and after many efforts and frustration over the past couple of years, I've given up. I had several issues with these guns, from double stamped serial numbers and mis matched base pin to white pearlite grips that turned yellow in just a few short years. They have not made good on any of it. They won't even contact you to tell you they can't do anything about it. Also, one of the reasons I purchased these guns was sort of as a collectors item. I doubt they are worth half of what I paid for them. Get your products from anyone but them!

BSA1
September 27, 2012, 01:16 PM
And they gave me excellent service on a Uberti 73 carbine and I wasn't even the original owner.

Jim Watson
September 27, 2012, 01:31 PM
Cimarron treated me well on the dud ASM Schofield. That fiasco almost put them out of business. I spent the refund on a Model P but at that time they were still being made by ASM so I can't say anything about the current crop of Ubertis and Piettas.

You just have to understand that these are mass produced guns made to undersell Colt and USFA, and all that stuff about "pick of the litter" and "our expert gunsmiths" is mostly advertising without a whole lot of value add.

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