Stevens 22-410 in horrible shape


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flynlr
May 29, 2008, 06:04 AM
I have this Gun given to me in the late 70's by my grandfather.
it has been kept at my dads house since 1990 and when I had it in the 80's I only shot a box of 410 through it.
a few weeks ago we buried my grandfather and while at my dads house I asked if he still had the gun. He said sure but as I had flown in for the funeral I was unable to bring it home with me. now this piece has a lot of sentimental value to me and I would like to see what would be involved in getting it restored.
here are a couple of pictures of the terrible condition it is in.
http://www.njrod.com/images/stevens22410.jpg\
http://www.njrod.com/images/stevens22410a.jpg

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mnrivrat
May 29, 2008, 07:45 AM
I've seen a lot worse - mostly just looks like honest use rather than abuse and a good cleaning and oiling would preserve the memory of the guns usage rather than making it look shiney and new.

Just my opinion - there are always methods of refinishing, but they can get costly as well. The receiver was case hardened I believe, the rest of the metal a pretty standard field blue. Varnished wood. I suspect the cost to restore would be in the $300 + range and at about the same cost as its overall value when done. Possibly even cost a little more than its value to refinish. I would clean and oil and leave it as is other than if it needs repair to shoot.

Rear sight & trigger gaurd should be available from Numrich Gun Parts.

flynlr
May 29, 2008, 07:55 AM
Rear sight & trigger gaurd should be available from Numrich Gun Parts.

funny you would mention that as I already ordered those 2 parts :p
pretty sure I can scrounge up the screws for the trigger guard.

flynlr
June 3, 2008, 07:09 AM
does anyone have a picture of this gun in good condition? I would like to see what it could look like.

Ske1etor
June 3, 2008, 10:11 AM
Does it have the tenite (plastic) stock or is it wood?

If it was made between 1938 and 1949 it is a Model 22-410. If made in 1950 or after, it is a Savage/Stevens Model 24. (Even though I believe they kept the original roll mark for some time.)

My father keeps mine (The one he handed down to me when I turned 12) in his gun safe as I do not use it anymore and it is better kept in his safe than my closet. It has the tenite stock but no serial number as it wasn't required in those days. They started serializing them and got rid of the tenite stock version in 1950 when they switched the name to the "Model 24".

Here is a website that may help.

http://www.savage24.com/

Mr_Rogers
June 3, 2008, 11:58 AM
If the firearm has sentimental value try a step-at-a-time restoration. You may be more satisfied by the memories bought back by the firearm in its present condition than if it was restored to "as new".

First item is complete stripping and cleaning. Gently rub the metal with bronze wool (like steel wool but bronze) and oil to remove light rust, don't work too hard. You can gently try the same bronze wool on the stock, take it easy. Oil and reassemble the metal and polish the wood with several coats of a good wax polish. You may find that as a sentimental piece, rather than a user firearm, that is all you need to do.

Rugerlvr
June 3, 2008, 01:07 PM
Do you live in the States?

You can fly Interstate with checked, unloaded firearms in a lockable hardcase last time I checked.

(...as long as the firearm is legal to possess at your destination, which that one would be most places.)

flynlr
June 4, 2008, 06:40 AM
as the pictures show it has the model 22-410 stamped on it but the SN seems to be scratched on there with an engraving pencil.
the stock is some kind of plastic but the fore end is wood
so would that make it an earlier model?.

Milkmaster
June 4, 2008, 08:05 AM
My father's 22-410 had the plastic stock that split like many of them. It was replaced years ago with a wooden stock. His selector button on the side broke and was replaced with the newer selector hammer. I am sorry his is not original now.

Here's my 22-410. Not restored, but in pretty decent shape. Mine has the side selector button and the wood stock. Clean yours up and see what it looks like and then decide whether to fully restore it would be my advice. Be careful of the "plastic" stock. They are old and do break easily.

mnrivrat
June 4, 2008, 12:33 PM
as the pictures show it has the model 22-410 stamped on it but the SN seems to be scratched on there with an engraving pencil.
the stock is some kind of plastic but the fore end is wood
so would that make it an earlier model?.

It is likely the original forearm was also tenite (early form of plastic) and was replaced with wood. This would seem to make yours an earlier (pre-50) model but that has no measurable effect on value .

Once in awhile I see a tenite forearm on ebay or other auction sites so there is a possible source to watch for parts if you want to return the gun to all tenite as originaly produced. The same is true regarding wooden butt stocks if you want to go all wood.

A little concern regarding the SN as the 1968 gun control act made it manditory for manufacturers to sn their guns, it also made significantly damaging or altering a sn illegal. A few scratches is not a problem but if the sn looks like someone tried to wipe it out ,and or make it unreadable, then there is a problem.

Milkmaster
June 4, 2008, 02:31 PM
I found another link in the THR archives regarding the tenite stocks that has some history and what else fits the same etc. I thought it appropriate for this thread as well.

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-158849.html

Gunaddict
May 11, 2010, 07:13 PM
I have a 410 22 over under stevens gun in perfict condition except for normal minor scratches and little rust on barrel from age. I will get some Pics. up in a little if u want to see it.

Milkmaster
May 11, 2010, 07:34 PM
Put up the pictures...I always like to look at the 22-410 or the Model 24

Gunaddict
May 11, 2010, 07:46 PM
dontg know how to put images in ugh

wgp
May 11, 2010, 09:52 PM
Mine was given to me by my uncle who did not want it. The plastic stock was cracked and we replaced it with a wood stock I finished myself. I did a home-style re-blue with a Birchwood Casey kit I bought. It's not great but the gun looks pretty good. Unfortunately it's been so long ago I can't recall where the stock came from.

HOWARD J
May 11, 2010, 10:31 PM
Your gun is a Savage model 24V.
Around 1951 or 2--I typed up a letter from my dad giving me permission to purchase a gun---let's just say the letter was signed ( dad was in the 1st & 2nd WW & he did not
like guns ) I took a street car 9 miles to downtown Detroit & purchased my first rifle--a Savage 24V 22/410--6mo later when he saw it he was pissed-but let me keep it.
A few years later I was hunting with my brother--he took my 24V & a bottle into the woods. When he came out he did not know where he was or where my rifle was---he gave me his Marlin 39A to replace the lost gun---I was a happy camper.-------------:)
I replaced the 24V about 30 years ago---I will send you a picture.

HOWARD J
May 11, 2010, 10:58 PM
My 24 V---------Not a good photo but you get the idea..........http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4557/24vq.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/24vq.jpg/)

natman
May 12, 2010, 03:05 AM
Your gun is a Savage model 24V.
Actually it's a Stevens Model 22/410, which was the predecessor to the later Savage 24V.


A few years later I was hunting with my brother--he took my 24V & a bottle into the woods. When he came out he did not know where he was or where my rifle was---he gave me his Marlin 39A to replace the lost gun---I was a happy camper.-------------:)


Makes you wonder what whoever found the gun thought. Or if it's still there....

mattfrancik
September 28, 2010, 10:08 PM
I just found a 22-410 without a serial number on it so im guessing its the older model. The only thing it is missing is the selector switch. Does anyone know if it the selector switch and screw from the model24 would work?

natman
September 30, 2010, 01:39 PM
It's not a Savage 24. It is indeed a Stevens 22-410, which is the 24's ancestor. (Look at the second picture, it's on the barrel.) Most 24s have the selector on the hammer. The forend was originally Tenite plastic like the stock. The numbers "engraved" on the receiver are not the serial number but some idiot's drivers license # that he put on himself. :barf:

wgp
September 30, 2010, 04:01 PM
An uncle gave his to me, it had the plastic stock and was not pretty. I changed for an inexpensive wood stock that I finished myself, then if I recall correctly I rubbed all the metal down with steel wool and re-blued it with an at-home product (Birchwood Casey?). Far from professional, but the gun looks OK (don't have pix), certainly better than before. Have not fired it in a long time, but I didn't want to get rid of it either.

Diggers
September 30, 2010, 04:32 PM
flynlr

This may be of help.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu111.htm

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