My First Real Deal ~ Found a Nice M-60
DAdams
May 29, 2008, 02:43 PM
Or, how I got hammered since this is my first snub with one. The other two are DAO.
I don't go to alot of gun shops, but when I do I always look at the used items to see if there is anything that approaches a realistic price or maybe even a deal. :eek: Yesterday I was at a LGS doing an inbound transfer and ran across this 1967 M-60. LNIB. Can't tell if it has ever been fired and barely has a turn line. Locks up tight, no end shake etc.
It is 99% if not flawless. As a bonus it came with the original grips and a set of Herrets. Much to my surprise when I did some research a pair of Herrett Detectives (Twin Falls, Idaho), retail for $98 on their website.
Got it at a great price, considering the new snub $$ these days, and no ILS blemish. :D The Herrets are comfy and wouldn't serve well for pocket carry, but they would make for excellent control in a 19 oz SS snub such as this loaded with Buffalo Bore Standard pressure 20C or similar.
For something that is 41 years old and the first of the S&W stainless snubs I couldn't resist.
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Thernlund
May 29, 2008, 02:50 PM
Nice! How much did you pay (if you don't mind me asking)?
-T.
LeonCarr
May 29, 2008, 02:51 PM
I read your title, and the first thing I thought was, "His first real deal was on a belt fed machine gun?" :)
Nice gun. Herrett's Stocks are excellent.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
BattleChimp Potemkin
May 29, 2008, 02:54 PM
Beautiful. Makes me cry to think that it may have holster marks on it one day.:D
DAdams
May 29, 2008, 02:54 PM
$315. What do you think of that price including the Herrets?
Thernlund
May 29, 2008, 03:00 PM
I think you did pretty good. I'd have paid that.
-T.
Phydeaux642
May 29, 2008, 03:01 PM
$315. What do you think of that price including the Herrets?
Well, I don't know what Thernlund thinks, but I think you should be arrested for stealing the thing.:neener: I thought that I got a good deal on a '75 nickel Colt Cobra in the box not too long ago at $460 but I sure would have snapped that one up , too.
Congrats, and keep looking for those deals.
DAdams
May 29, 2008, 03:14 PM
finally edumacated enough now after looking, reading, studying to know general prices and recognize a deal when I stumble on one.
Two years ago I was like a hawg staring at a wrist watch. :confused: I have confined my knowledge to S&W, Colts, in revolvers post 1965; but if I stumbled on a Colt New Agent or Defender in great shape or new for $500 or less I would run to the cash can. :D
I hate to say it though if I encountered something that was average looking and a "deal" but an unrecognized collectors item I probably wouldn't know it from book learning. That's why I always keep the Standard Catalog out in the truck.
chupacabrah
May 29, 2008, 03:21 PM
wow...that's an awesome deal. and a great looking piece!
Dirtypacman
May 29, 2008, 04:21 PM
I am jealous - simple as that.
gruesomenewsom
May 29, 2008, 06:22 PM
I read your title, and the first thing I thought was, "His first real deal was on a belt fed machine gun?"
haha my sentiments exactly. Nice gun and great price.
PattonTime
May 29, 2008, 06:49 PM
Congrats, I have one just like it but in about 90% shape that I paid $325.00
I also got no box and no Herretts.
I also have a 3" barrel Adjustable sight circa "91"
that I love for the range and carry out and about.
You did very, very well.
They are much higher on auction sights !!
bannockburn
May 29, 2008, 06:52 PM
DAdams
Please forgive me for asking but I have a quick question for you; if it was made in 1967 as you posted, shouldn't it have a pinned barrel?
c1ogden
May 29, 2008, 08:39 PM
Beautiful gun. Outstanding deal! For that price I'd take ten of them!
Huddog
May 29, 2008, 10:10 PM
Outstanding, with your luck you should go to gun shops more often.
DAdams
May 29, 2008, 10:12 PM
Asks:
if it was made in 1967 as you posted, shouldn't it have a pinned barrel?
bannockburn
May 29, 2008, 10:49 PM
DAdams
Not to be troublesome, and maybe I'm really missing something here, but I've looked very closely at your pix, and I still don't see any barrel pin. I know they used to come that way, and that sometime in the early '80's S&W did away with that feature on their revolvers. It's just that I don't see one there on that particular Model 60 that you posted.
DAdams
May 29, 2008, 11:05 PM
You are right, there certainly isn't a pin. Certainly the box could have been from something else and SN put on after the fact on the box.
Pins were deleted in 82.
Diamond grips were on until 68 and these aren't diamond.
I can't cipher the SN from S&N. Perhaps you can help me out. Butt number is AWC72XX.
Any insight?
I still like it, no lock and I don't plan on selling it in any event. I think the box and the revolver are not probably originally matched then.
DAdams
May 29, 2008, 11:32 PM
So far from the S&W Forum one person says July 87. Damn it's only looking good at 21 years old instead of 41. I agree.
I will wait for further confirmation and take corrective action. Thanks for your sharp eye.
Guess I'm still that hawg staring at a wristwatch. ;)
The good news is I didn't want a safe queen so I won't have to grapple with shooting it and using it just because I thought it an early version.
Still LNIB (not the right box albeit), no lock, and a great set of grips.
Again good eyes bannockburn!!
Thernlund
May 30, 2008, 02:28 AM
You still got a deal. It's really nice. I'd have paid what you did all day long.
-T.
bannockburn
May 30, 2008, 06:52 AM
DAdams
Please forgive me for causing you any consternation over the barrel pin issue; it's still an outstanding buy and it's a gun that most everyone here would love to have, regardless of its date of manufacture.
DAdams
May 30, 2008, 07:07 AM
Consternation here. Great price, great condition, no lock, set of Herretts, what's not to like?
Bannockburn thanks for your eagle eye view though and allowing the record to be set straight.
For those of you with the Standard Catalog, the decoder ring for this discussion is page 400 of the third edition. I don't see an AWC prefix, so I am going to have to read a bit more. There are many caveats on the alpha and numeric characterizations, but I am in agreement at this point that it is most likely circa 1987. Also there is "no dash", on the frame, only M-60 perhaps the frame marking system did not include the dash as in other models?
Marshall
May 30, 2008, 03:19 PM
Very nice! You did very well too!
Congrats, I'm jeleous.
Supertac45
May 30, 2008, 07:02 PM
My first thought also was a M-60 machine gun.
Ala Dan
May 30, 2008, 08:48 PM
Smith old model 60's ( in .38 Special were the first all stainless steel handgun
(except for the walnut grips of course); first introduced in 1965, and living a
good life until 1996 when some S&W engineer had a brain fart and decided
to build a new model 60 on a J-magnum frame. Even tho' its chambered for
the more powerful .357 magnum cartridge; believe me, it ain't the same gun. :(
LeonCarr
May 30, 2008, 09:23 PM
From what I understand, most of the early Model 60s went straight to Vietnam, and it was a while until they were available to civilians. I read a story once about an air force pilot that had one in country, loaded with scrounged Super Vels instead of FMJs.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
bannockburn
May 30, 2008, 10:34 PM
LeonCarr
I remember hearing that story too, that Model 60's were in such short supply because most of them ended up going to Vietman. I also recall that for a number of years after the war, it still was very difficult to find one, and when you did, it was for well over twice what the retail price was supposed to be. Even the regular blued Model 36 2" were sometimes hard to come by, though they were usually priced near or a little below their suggested retail price.
Ala Dan
May 31, 2008, 08:09 AM
reports from in country troops state that after the war ended, and as the
troops were preparing to come home; crates of S&W model 60's were pushed
overboard from U.S. Navy ships returning to U.S. ports. I can't confirm
or deny this information; but knowing our government the way
I do, I would not doubt it one bit~! After all, it was us (taxpayers)
who paid for them in the first place.
On a lighter note, my first encounter with an original model 60 S&W came
in the summer of 1973; to the tune of $185 NIB. Back then, MSRP was $90.
I bought two of 'em; one for my dad, and one for me. Later, in October of
1998 I found one slightly used (but not abused) for only $249.95; so I
snatched it up. Its also an "R" serial prefix model, that has seen its share
of daily carry by me. ;) :D
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