[HLG]

Does anyone have North American Arms new gun chambered for their new caliber, the 32NAA? If so, how do you like it? How does the 32NAA compare to the 380 ACP? Do you think the new cartridge will catch on?
Thanks

[PCRCCW]

I dont have one..but the ballistics look pretty good for what it is. What I would like to do is get a nicer little Makarov and do a NAA conversion on it.
The little monster is just a barrel change away and the ballistics look very good. With some rounds having enough velocity to get in the 300 FPE range.....borderline 9mm data.....
It looks very very fun. Shoot well

[George Hill]

I wrote a review of the .32 NAA Guardian. Hope this helps:
http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/mousegun.htm

As for the cartridge, I think it has potential. Its a small caliber yeah, but its a bottle neck cartridge that give you some better reliability and that is very important.

[HLG]

Flyer, speaking of facts, can we see the data showing that the 32 magnum is behind the 380 in stopping power?

[HLG]

When I looked it up the 32 magnum was better than the 380.

[George Hill]

Depends on the loads. Some .380 loads will stomp a .32Mag and vice-versa.
What's the point of the arguement?

[PCRCCW]

The 32 Mag is a wheel gun load and is pretty stout but not in this company.

The 32NAA from a 3.8" barrel has 1450 FPS and around 300 FPE.

From the guardian it still rivals a .380 Corbon from my CZ83 with over a 3 1/2" barrel.

As far as stopping power or OSS data. The only way to get #'s is to theorize...its too new of a caliber to have actual data on OSS's.

So its all up in the air, so to speak.

Shoot well

[George Hill]

Well, that and OSS data is junk science to be taken with a grain of salt.
It's not like we all carry single-shots.

Now just imagine if we did.
Like we all carried a flintlock pistol tucked into our belts. Then OSS data might be a lot more important.

But it's not, because the data collection process filters out most of the involved shootings, and then doesnt take into account where the bullet hit.
The only way to make this data more accurate is to take into account the organs the bullet damaged, the angle through the body that the bullet took, the depth of penetration of the bullet, the type of clothing the person hit was wearing, the range of the shot... lots of other factors.
But that is neither here nor there.

.32 Magnum can be brisk, but it is a revolver cartridge as mentioned. I think the point of that was that the .32NAA is similar to .32Magnum. Well, not really... Then again .357 SIG isn't like .357 Magnum either. The revolver shells can out pace the auto cartridges easily depending on the loads. At best, the SIG round hits about in the middle of the .357Mag spectrum. And that's fine... but there is a lot of room in that spectrum left for the wheelgun to play in that your auto can't. Same with .32...

The advantage that the .32NAA has over .380 and .32ACP shells is purely the shape. This new round is much more reliable than the others. I've shot lots of pocket pistols and they are finicky or just not reliable... Kel Tecs, Guardians, the little Berettas... I've had failures to Feed in all of them. The .32NAA gives you a better shape for feeding. It's debatable how much of an advantage it gives... but it is an edge. I've never had a failure to feed with a bottle necked pistol cartridge. There are other kinds of failures and the shape isnt that magical... but every edge helps when you talking about a gun that you will have to stake your life on with chips are down at the lowest in your most dire hour of need.
If I was going to spend my own money on a mouser... it would be in .32NAA. If I wanted a .380, I'd get a Beretta 84 or SIG 232. Ohhh... a Tomcat would be wicked in .32NAA.

[usnavymasterchief]

PCRCCW where can one find a pistol in.32NAA with a 3.8" barrel? That would definitely increase ballistics. But, dammit, the NAA Guardian in .32NAA only has a 2.49" barrel. Who else makes a pistol chambered for .32NAA? I have heard of a Mak conversion barrel soon to come. Are they available now?

[George Hill]

A MAk conversion for .32NAA? Nice. I'd go for one.
Any information on this?

[PCRCCW]

All right guys....settle down. :D Here you go....all of the information you want and then some...well it sounded good anyway.

http://www.makarov.com/32naa/index.html

Id love to get a nice Mak and convert it, Novak sights and a trigger job...
We would have a well healed CCW and plinker. Hell Im tempted to see if they will make a barrel for a CZ83. 14 rnds of hot and heavy 32 sounds plenty good to me also.

Shoot well