Got a CZ-52
Don Lu
May 31, 2008, 09:14 AM
Found a CZ-52 at a local pawn shop that I happened to stumble accross last week. I never new the shop was right down the street from my house. I got the CZ, but they also have other older guns. Pleasant surprise, Ill be visiting them again very soon. CZ was 160.00 OTD. ive heard other people have got them less but I couldnt pass it up.
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Snowdog
May 31, 2008, 09:39 AM
Congratulations on your flame-thrower. They are a load of fun, no doubt about it. BTW, if you’re into older (C&R eligible) firearms, I’ll echo advice that I’m sure you’ve heard before and suggest you obtain a C&R license so you can be broke like me by finding awesome deals you can't pass up.
Don Lu
May 31, 2008, 09:49 AM
I am strongly considering getting one. The only thing is...there are only about 4-5 C&R guns I feel like I must get and I know of places I can drive to in order to buy them. Im not quite sure if it will be worth it for me. I havent shot it yet..Flamethrower heh ?:evil:
they also had an egyptian helwan..looks just like a Beretta Brigader. Very nice, I had never even heard of that before.
Snowdog
May 31, 2008, 10:09 AM
Well, give it time... your CZ-52 will twist your arm and demand more matured friends soon enough. :D
SOG has great deals on C&R eligible firearms and I believe their shipping fee to be fair. Send 'em a copy of your C&R and you'll get a new catalog from them just about every other week.
Just a warning though, recently I was forced to purchase a CZ-82 when all my C&R firearms began creating a cacophony of chirps immediately after turning to its page in a SOG flier. I’m such a push-over… but I must say that I’m quite pleased with the purchase.
Yeah, the flamethrower aspect is prominent primarily with surplus fodder, but I find Wolf’s Gold line 7.62x25 a bit of a dragon’s breath as well. I’ve been told the CZ-52 is a crowd pleaser at night and I don’t doubt it a bit.
19-3Ben
May 31, 2008, 10:21 AM
Congrats!!!! I actually just sent in my C&R application this week. I feel like poverty is the next step in my life!!!
Don Lu
May 31, 2008, 11:39 AM
Im very curious. everything I read states there were at most, 250,000 made. for them to be such a rarity why are they priced so low..and with the limited production why does it seem that everyone has one...doesn't seem possible, were they all brought to america or is the supply scattered world wide.
RPCVYemen
May 31, 2008, 11:51 PM
If you have a CZ-52, you need to know about this web site. Everything for a CZ-52.
http://www.makarov.com/cz52/index.html
Mike
Sans Authoritas
June 1, 2008, 12:35 AM
And the obligatory warning: do not use the decocker on any CZ-52. On many of them, it will function as a trigger, due to a worn interceptor notch. On all of them that have had competition firing pins installed, it will function as a trigger.
Don't use it.
In addition, though corrosive surplus is cheap, it goes everywhere in the frame. The pistol is a pain to completely disassemble. To me, it is not worth it to shoot corrosive ammo, because it affects more than just the barrel, but the little places you can't really get to.
You'll probably want to get an aftermarket machined firing pin, as the originals are brittle.
Other than that, enjoy your new hand cannon. Sounds like you got a decent enough price.
-Sans Authoritas
Don Lu
June 1, 2008, 09:20 AM
Great link RPCVYemen, Lots of great info. And Sans, thanks. I am aware of the firing pin and decocker issues. will not be dryfiring or decocking...I was looking at ammo online, the prices themselves werent too bad but shipping was adding like 10 bucks to the total..Im gonna have to check my local shops and see if they have it. I know of a mil-surp place that may carry older stuff, but ive heard the old stuff is more corrosive than the new.
stoney1666
June 1, 2008, 02:29 PM
its OK to de-cock an empty gun
Don Lu
June 1, 2008, 03:50 PM
yes...decocking on an empty chamber is ok from what I understand...but I just though of something...decocking on a live round could pose a risk of an A/D..which would impy the firing pin is going through the same motion if the decocker sometimes acts as a
"second trigger". couldn't this potentially pose the same risk as dryfiring and damage to the pin ? you would still have the pin falling on an empty chamber..that would pose risk to the firing pin putting pin at risk for breakage...I'll avoid decocking as well
woad_yurt
June 2, 2008, 10:20 AM
When your firing pin breaks, and it will, checkout the Harrington Products firing pin & trigger kit. They used to sell them at makarov.com but they're all out and won't get more as they're closing up shop. Harrington does sell directly to the customer, though. Once you make the swap-out, you will be amazed at how the gun improves in both reliability and trigger feel. I have two of them and I prefer them to a 1911 .45. I love the 7.62 ballistics. It's a killer cartridge. When I go to the range with it, folks always walk over to find out what's making all the noise. The Wolf hollowpoints make really big holes and the FMJ surplus stuff will shoot through a bus the long way. And, listen to those guys who said to avoid using the decocker. If you must decock the thing, do the old thumb under the hammer deal.
RPCVYemen
June 2, 2008, 03:48 PM
When your firing pin breaks, and it will, checkout the Harrington Products firing pin & trigger kit. They used to sell them at makarov.com but they're all out and won't get more as they're closing up shop. Harrington does sell directly to the customer, though. Once you make the swap-out, you will be amazed at how the gun improves in both reliability and trigger feel.
Be aware the reason the the trigger gets so much better is that the Harrington firing pin eliminates the firing pin block (or at least it used to). With the new firing pin, you don't have to compress the spring under the firing pin block.
Different people have different feeling about whether eliminating a firing pin block is a good idea or not. I wasn't comfortable with that, but a lot of folks don't seem to mind.
They do add a spring to help retract the firing pin, but that didn't seem as strong a solution as a plunger that blocks the firing pin from moving forward.
Here are my thoughts about the firing pin block:
The firing pin block is not the result of over-zealous liability lawyers, at last not in 1952 Soviet bloc Czechoslovakia. :)
There was some cost added to the weapon to implement the block.It took some additional machining to add that firing pin block, and some additional parts.
My CZ-52 looked to me to be an extremely utilitarian weapon, just look at the grips. :) The designer was definitely not told "Don't worry about cost!"
So we have a pretty expensive mechanism added to very utilitarian weapon.
All of that implies to me that the designer of the weapon (or someone else) felt like there was enough of a problem with the gun without the block to justify the added cost of the block.
Here is the warning on the web site about the issue:
The Harrington CZ52-2 and CZ52-3 firing pin kits effectively disable the firing pin block safety. Instead they use a spring return to retract the firing pin.
I think that there is also firing pin that does not disable the firing pin plunger, but it does not improve the trigger nearly as much. That's called the "CZ52-1 Military Style Firing Pin with Rebound Spring", and it's no longer available.
Mike
mnw42
June 2, 2008, 04:21 PM
I wouldn't dry dry fire it because of the brittle firing pin. If I were you I'd try to hunt down an extra set of rollers as they are a wear item, much like Beretta locking blocks.
Here's mine. I like the racy ray-gun look. http://www.docstech.com/pertinax/arms/cz52-rh-sm.jpg
Funderb
June 2, 2008, 04:25 PM
Where is clark? He should be telling you that your gun is going to blow up and kill you about now.....
I love mine. Despite his rumors.
p.s. - I try to use the decocker less by either pulling the trigger and slowly lowering the hammer with your thumb, or using the decocker as stated. don't break the firing pin.
Bigdtc
June 2, 2008, 06:21 PM
http://bca-service.com/index.html
Try this site. They just got CZ-52 firing pins back in stock. This is the guy that was making them for Makarov.com. Thid pin is the same as the original pin EXCEPT that it is hardened and your de-cocker should work fine. They are $18.50 plus shipping. I have one in my CZ-52 and the de-cocker is checked every time I go to the range and it works fine. I did the pencil test the first time so I trust it.
azhunter12
June 2, 2008, 07:35 PM
mnw those grips look almost purpleish.
Funderb
June 4, 2008, 01:49 PM
That's bakelite for you, azhunter.
ZeSpectre
June 4, 2008, 02:00 PM
Ray-gun...Ray-gun...I loves me my CZ-52 Ray-Gun!!!
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/2007_SD400_0090.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b66/zespectre/2007_SD400_0089.jpg
And someone around here has a chromed one...sweeeeeeet!
woad_yurt
June 4, 2008, 10:31 PM
ZeSpectre, you might have just started something. Here's mine. Oh yeah, anyone wanna buy the grips?
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee150/woad_yurt/DSC00059.jpg?t=1212632980
jjohnson
June 5, 2008, 02:48 PM
Oh, nice!
I suppose you were looking for bids on the grips? :eek:
Where did you get them? I don't mind a little "ugly' on my
handguns, but the CZ52 sort of abuses the term.... you did
a nice job on getting one of the world's ugliest handguns :barf:
(possible exception: Webley) pretty.
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