Rate your state, as far as gun friendliness goes.
number6
August 21, 2003, 11:07 PM
Is your state a friend of The Second Amendment?
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AZTOY
August 21, 2003, 11:19 PM
Arizona
Very friendly (So friendly I won't ever move away):D
dinosaur
August 22, 2003, 06:28 AM
We`re not as good as Vermont or Alaska but I wouldn`t move to either place.
sensop
August 22, 2003, 06:57 AM
I'd like the question clarified somewhat. Do you mean the statutes and state constitution? Or the attitudes of the average "John and Jane"?
NewShooter78
August 22, 2003, 07:41 AM
Louisiana is about as gun friendly as you can get. But there are a few states that are better when it comes to gun ownership.
stevelyn
August 22, 2003, 08:01 AM
The Alaska statutes address only criminal misuse of firearms toward people and property. A few years ago, language was inserted into the state Constitution to clarify that the RKBA was an individual right.
Outside of aquisition restrictions imposed by the Great Benvolent Father of DC, we can have, carry, buy, possess, own, and shoot anything available to the public including any and all NFA regulated guns.
We now have a choice of obtaining an Alaska CHL or Vermont style carry. We can Vermont carry while waiting for an AK CHL. :D
Makes the -40F weather worth dealing with. :neener:
P95Carry
August 22, 2003, 08:11 AM
Voted ''very'' for PA but in fact I'd say we were between #1 and #'2 ....... pretty good but not perfect, or the best. Wouldn't feel need to wanna move however ....... currently!! (Pats CCW :) )
cma g21
August 22, 2003, 08:11 AM
Florida - It's pretty good right now, but as the population of the urban areas continues to grow I worry about the future.
On the bright side, if I do have to move, my house is going up in value so rapidly that selling it and buying another one elsewhere should be no problem. :D
Sean Smith
August 22, 2003, 08:13 AM
Texas isn't ideal, but is pretty darn good.
cuchulainn
August 22, 2003, 08:18 AM
Better than most; could be better
seeker_two
August 22, 2003, 08:38 AM
Texas isn't ideal, but is pretty darn good.
I'll second that. If the Legislature would drop the price of a CCW ($140 + whatever your certification course costs :what: ) or go to Vermont-style carry (EVEN BETTER!), I'd be happy as a clam.
Right now, I'd give Texas an 8 out of 10... :D
foghornl
August 22, 2003, 08:45 AM
In this respect, Ohio STINKS ! ! !
Thanks, Guv. Booby and Spineless Ohio Senate, for keeping us defenseless outside out homes.
MLH
August 22, 2003, 08:54 AM
Great place for guns, horses, and women!:D
lee n. field
August 22, 2003, 09:00 AM
Illinois negatives: Chicago, Mayor Daley and Gov. Rod Bolshevik. No CCW. No Class III. FOID card requirement. 1 day/3 day wait despite the instant check. Some limitations on ammo (no Dragon's Breath). No statewide preemption -- Chicago, Morton Grove, etc. can tighten the screws all by themselves.
Positives: an instant check system that's actually instant. No weird list of approved and verboten guns like Californica. No ballistic database. No "assault rifle" ban.
Silent Bob
August 22, 2003, 09:17 AM
Texas is okay but no ideal - gun prices seem fairly high compared to many other parts of the country, is a shall issue state but requires attending a day-long course, passing an extensive background check, and is one of the most expensive to obtain, open carry is not legal, and the only places to shoot are either at a range or your own property if you're lucky and own some acreage.
greyhound
August 22, 2003, 09:20 AM
:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:
Tamara
August 22, 2003, 09:22 AM
One or three states have more gun-friendly laws, but they're all pretty seriously deficient in the climate department. Snow should be a two-or-three-times-a-year novelty, not a six-month fact of life. ;)
suijurisfreeman
August 22, 2003, 09:24 AM
I don[t know about the entire Commonwealth of Kentucky, but Monroe County, Kentucky certainly became very friendly after my son served deputy Darrrell Ford Constructive Notice that he was in fact carrying a weapon in the open as a matter of right, a right that is protected by Kentucky's Bill of Rights, Section 1, No. 7: "The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons." Sheriff, Jerry Gee upheld his oath of office and obeyed Kentucky's Constitution, he even had deputy Ford apologize to my son for unlawfully disarming and searching him! God bless Jerry Gee, Sheriff of Monroe County, Kentucky! :D
Futo Inu
August 22, 2003, 10:37 AM
Oklahoma is only somewhat friendly, what with 23-year-old requirement for CCW, and NO open carry.
Moondancer
August 22, 2003, 12:27 PM
INDIANA - Gun Friendly? YES!
Michigander born and raised, Indiana resident for four fours. I hate to say it, but I like Indiana better than Michigan and it all has to do with guns.! (Just don't call me a Hoosier, that's all I ask.)
El Tejon
August 22, 2003, 12:35 PM
Moon, alright, we won't, but we're happy to have you, wolverine.:D
number, check the Brady site. I don't understand their goofy, inconsistent criteria, but should give you a rough idea.
Desert Dog
August 22, 2003, 12:41 PM
NM - very friendly (open carry).
The other night a man shot a home intruder (threw a cinder block thru a window to break in) and no follow up or harrassment for the home owner. Police said it was justified... :D
Kind of the opposite of Britain...
Mike
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August 22, 2003, 12:43 PM
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anapex
August 22, 2003, 01:56 PM
I live in Maryland, enough said.
.45Ruger
August 22, 2003, 04:39 PM
I really like AZ. Open carry is not only LEGAL you won't get harrassed for doing it like in some other open carry states, even Phoenix. Class III no problem, shall-issue, legal to carry a loaded handgun in the car as long as it is holstered (that's considered cased) or it can be unholstered as long as it is in plain sight. If you have a CCW you are NICS exempt when you go to buy a new gun. I do wish we could obtain agreements with more states and have CCW recognized there.
Monkeyleg
August 22, 2003, 06:04 PM
Wisconsin really needs just couple of things: concealed carry and an elimination of the 48 hour waiting period for handguns. On all other gun fronts it's pretty good.
Now, if the snow was just a novelty... ;)
Peter Gun
August 22, 2003, 06:17 PM
Yeah we have this rule....." something" style-carry? I just cant remember what they call it.:)
Skunkabilly
August 22, 2003, 06:34 PM
The Brady Bunch gave California an A- so I guess we could be worse :D
Valkman
August 22, 2003, 09:24 PM
California - horrible! Great restrictions on what you can buy and for the most part, no CCW's granted. No carrying of loaded guns in vehicles.
However, in one week I move to Nevada - like a whole new world! CCW's for all, guns in cars, buy about anything you want. Sweet.:p
The Brady Bunch gave California an A- so I guess we could be worse
It'd be A+ if your guns were taken away, I guess! :uhoh:
NewShooter78
August 22, 2003, 09:32 PM
Anyone here from Lafayette, LA? I might be moving there from New Orleans and was wondering how they treat open carry there.
Zedicus
August 22, 2003, 09:32 PM
not a state, but a country.
the UK.
Q: Friendly to guns/gun owners?
A: Your Joking Right?
Makes Kalli sound like vermont or Idaho in comparason...:banghead:
El Tejon
August 22, 2003, 09:57 PM
Lafayette, yeah, sure, open carry, carry under your hat, in your hand, on a boat with a goat, whatever, we don't care.
Oh, that's LA, not IN.:D
NewShooter78
August 22, 2003, 10:04 PM
Well in LA, you can open carry. But some parishes or cities take liberties in charging you with some other "crime" in order to curtail such Constitutional (state) rights.
WyldOne
August 23, 2003, 03:04 AM
Mass.
The only thing we've got going for us, is that we're not California. Yet.
S_O_Laban
August 23, 2003, 04:29 AM
Well here in Missouri things are sortof muddy, if you get my drift. If you stay out of the population centers things are pretty pro gun, but in the city, "woe unto the serf who thinks he is a citizen". Open carry is legal in Mo but I understand that those that do are asking for a major hassle. In my experiance only LEO's carry openly that I've seen. Others from the Show Me State may have something else to say...
AZ Husker
August 23, 2003, 04:38 AM
Any more friendly and gun ownership would be mandatory!
Futo Inu
August 23, 2003, 10:38 AM
"Yeah we have this rule....." something" style-carry? I just cant remember what they call it"
Peter Gun - oh, I remember - it's called "Alaska-style carry" that you have there in VT. ;)
Valkman, congrats on your defection.
MLH
August 23, 2003, 12:43 PM
If you leave that mountain top you would find it doesn't snow 6 months out of the year!:D
DFBonnett
August 23, 2003, 03:50 PM
I live in Nazi Jersey. So far so good. No JBTs come to my door to steal my property and no one get shot in the face. Like I said, so far, so good.
Peter Gun
August 23, 2003, 05:49 PM
The man that just bought the house I rent is from Jersey. He showed up the other day while I was working in the garage w/ my sig on my hip and was shocked. After I gave him a little education, he was like a man who's lifelong blindfold has just been removed and finds out that all women walk around naked. Nice to see some people move here with the intention of becoming Vermonters and not just bringing their socialist crap w/ them. BTW, he hates NJ. Were going gun shopping this week.:)
suijurisfreeman
August 23, 2003, 06:42 PM
El Tejon,
I was born in Lafayette, Indiana at the Home Hospital in 1948 right across from the zoo, there just might have been a mix-up! :confused: :D I was supposed to go Purdue University to study Electrical Engineering in the fall of 1966, but went to California for the summer, the rest is the story of my life.
In fact I was in Lafayette two years ago to get a certified copy of my birth certificate, at first they hassled me because I didn't have any ID, but eventually gave me a copy. She asked me," how do we know that you are who you say you are?" My reply, "I am who I pretend to be!"
S_O_Laban,
I'll be traveling on my new recumbent tricycle (it's a HPPPC, Human Powered Private Property Conveyance!) from my place in Monroe County, Kentucky 470 miles to Branson, Missouri in April of 2005 for a Backwoods Home get together. I'll be carrying in the open all the way, pistol and shotgun. And of course my Constructive Notice! I wonder if I should give adanced warning? :confused: :evil:
BryanP
August 23, 2003, 09:28 PM
As Tamara pointed out, there are states that are more gun-friendly than Tennessee, but Vermont is way too cold and Arizona is waaay too hot for my tastes. Nice and green with fairly moderate weather.
Ala Dan
August 24, 2003, 10:49 AM
Alabama = somewhat friendly
Could be better, by allowing open carry w/o a license!:D :uhoh:
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
BTR
August 24, 2003, 03:55 PM
I thought open carry in Alabama is legal w/o a liscense.... the only bad things we have are no sawedoffs (AOW apparently excluded) and no AP handgun ammo.
rick_reno
August 24, 2003, 04:06 PM
I'd rank Idaho as ok, but could be a lot better. Having to pay a fee to carry concealed and exercise my 2nd Amendment Right of "keep and bear arms" is clearly wrong. The fee for the CCW license is $35.
.45Ruger
August 24, 2003, 04:30 PM
As Tamara pointed out, there are states that are more gun-friendly than Tennessee, but Vermont is way too cold and Arizona is waaay too hot for my tastes. Nice and green with fairly moderate weather
That's only partly true, if you live in Xouthern AZ yeah it gets pretty hot down here, but as we say its a dry heat. But you can go up north and live in Flagstaff, Temp. is usually mid 80's in the Summer and it actually snows in the winter. Yes it does snow in AZ.
OEF_VET
August 24, 2003, 04:53 PM
TN rules!
I've been to VT and lived in most of New England (ME, NH, and MA -where I was born), and it's way too cold there. Of course that may be because my ex lives in Maine (frigid :cuss: ). I agree, a few days a year with snow is much better than a few days a year without it. Heck, New England only has two seasons, winter and the 4th of July.
Frank
10-Ring
August 24, 2003, 05:08 PM
Gun friendly CA? :banghead: :cuss: :scrutiny: :fire: :(
Monkeyleg
August 24, 2003, 05:35 PM
.45Ruger: "...in Flagstaff, Temp. is usually mid 80's in the Summer and it actually snows in the winter."
It also snows there in the summer. Nothing like riding your motorcycle in 90 degree weather across the desert in July, only to hit snow and sub-freezing temperatures!
HBK
August 24, 2003, 05:51 PM
Washington. The state constitution guarantees the right to bear arms as an individual right. It could be better, could be worse.
answerguy
August 24, 2003, 06:53 PM
MICHIGAN- Glad they had the good sense to enact shall issue CCW.
Also I feel so much safer knowing that when I buy a handgun and take it down to the sheriff's dept they will give it a 'safety inspection'. It's not registration, really. :barf:
Can any other Michigander tell me if handgun registrations are retained at the county level or if they forward them on to Lansing
clubsoda22
August 24, 2003, 07:31 PM
PA has very gun friendly laws, unfortunately, too many people are ignorant of them, which is why i have a hard time finding ranges to shoot at. A lot of them won't let an 18 year old shoot handguns he legally owns and may legally fire. :rolleyes:
Mc85
August 25, 2003, 03:53 AM
Here in Indiana I can carry.I have a ccw and am almost 19.Prob is I can't buy the gun,or ammo for the gun I can carry.Stuck having mommy and daddy do it for me until 21,but otherwise things have been real good here!
One other prob is atleast localy the police station (including our local state police office) don't know what the laws are.I called them up and asked how old u had to be to get a ccw and they were like "what is a ccw". DNR told me I could shoot a rifle on my parents property all day long,but is was illegal for me to shoot a handgun until I was 18 and passed a proper training course.I know he was wrong.I didn't even have to take a test to get my ccw. Alwell. Better than a overly strict state!!!!
Lates guys and be safe,
Mc.
suijurisfreeman
August 25, 2003, 08:06 AM
Indiana'a Bill of Rights, Article I, Section 32: "The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State."
I don't see anywhere in that Section that the people of Indiana delegated the State Legislature any authority to regulate the manner in which weapons are carried! If you check out other States' Bill of Rights, Illinois for example, Article I, Section 22: "Subject only to the police power , the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Here to me it is self-evident that the people of Illinois did delegate their State government the authority to regulate not only the manner in which weapons are carried, but subject to the 'police powers' of the State!
Or Check out Georgia's Bill of Rights, Section 1, Paragraph VIII: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but the General Assembly shall have power to prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne." To me this is self-evident that the people of Georgia delegated the General Assembly the authority to regulate the manner in which arms may be borne.
So I guess my point would be, in those States whose Bill of Rights do not delegate any authority to their legislature to regulate the keeping and bearing of arms, are any 'laws' Constitutional that attempt to do so? And why are the people getting CCW's if bearing arms is one of their inherent and inalienable rights that is supposed to be protected by their Bill of Rights?
Partisan Ranger
August 25, 2003, 09:36 AM
I said 'very' for Virginia, however there are some nanny-state anti-gun laws here I could live without.
1. One handgun per month. ***?
2. No CCW in places that serve booze. ***?
3. A long list of places where I can't CCW. ***?
4. 3 day waits in some counties. ***? (no matter, I just buy in counties that don't have them).
On the plus side, you can open carry just about anywhere (if you can tolerate mommies grabbing little Tyler and Brittany and shrieking in terror), and you can carry a gun locked and loaded in your car without a CCW, as long as it is visible.
modifiedbrowning
August 25, 2003, 05:25 PM
Montana is pretty good, but you do have to get a CCW permit , but you can cary concealed outside of town.
ComputerFlake
September 2, 2003, 05:01 PM
Tennessee is gun friendly but the carry permit is a pain. Class is a breeze. Standing in line for 2 hours to file the paperwork, pay the $115 fee and then wait for weeks to get it in the mail while having no guaranteed way to carry your equipment to the range without fear of arrest (meaning ask any two people in Tennessee how to carry your weapons in your car while driving to the range and you'll get 14 different answers) is frustrating. I'm not complaining though. At least I still have the right to carry if I choose to do so AND I have my guns in my house safely stored but easily reached.
Since people in Tennessee have no way of really knowing who's armed and who isn't, I can honestly say that Tennessee isn't nearly the shooting gallery of innocent victims that other states are.
If you see the NRA sticker on the back of my car, don't try to carjack me. It'll be the biggest mistake of your short-lived life. :)
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