Scope Mount on my Winchester 94


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Magnum460
June 5, 2008, 05:32 PM
I'm wondering, just out of curiosity, how I can mount a scope on my non-angle eject Winchester Model 94. It is a 1970's model in the .30-30. I heard that mounting a scope on a non-angle eject is rather "goofy", but I'm also wondering, in this case, what "goofy" actually means. I know that I have to use a scope mount that doesn't obstruct the ejection, so the mount has to sit off-to-the-side. HELP ME OUT :D! Please include a price on the scope mount if possible.

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rcmodel
June 5, 2008, 07:10 PM
Goofy means drill & tapping a bunch of holes and mounting on the left side of the receiver.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/27047-17822-1492.html

http://www.impactguns.com/store/SS-27047.html

Too shoot, you cock your head over off the stock to the left to look through the scope.

Please don't do it!

If you want to scope a 30-30 lever-gun, trade it for a Marlin!

rcmodel

rodregier
June 5, 2008, 08:52 PM
There were forward-deployed mounts made for the non-AE W94, but they are out of production to my knowledge. I managed to buy a Leupold version used from a fellow several years ago. No, it isn't for resale.

To quote "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", "...it's very nice!".

yakkingallover
June 5, 2008, 09:09 PM
I bought my 94 and it has a weaver rail bolted to the left side for a red dot, not really a scope but the previous owner said it was great. I have a scope on my Marlin so the rail is coming off the 94 and it will stay pure with iron sights. PM me if ya wanna go that route, it can be had for a smoking deal.

Nhsport
June 5, 2008, 09:26 PM
I am 54 and have well,54 year old eyes. The use of standard Winchester sights is pretty much past me.
I think a scope is a poor fit on the 94 . The stock is alltogether the wrong shape and getting a good mount is difficult.
The old school solution is a peep sight. You might have the two small holes on the left side of the rieciver but if not it is a pretty simple task for a smith to do the drilling and tapping.
A peep is fast,allows good accuracy and solves many types of eye problems. It looks right on the gun,doesn't mess up the balance and is cheeper than a scope and mounts.

If you feel you have to have a scope -go for it ,just consider that a good peep might work out better for you.

theotherwaldo
June 5, 2008, 09:50 PM
I forward-mounted a Bushnell Phantom 2.5x pistol scope on one of my 94s. It was OK, but I preferred iron sights.

BTW, the gun was already boogered up some by someone that used one of those side mounts that used existing frame holes. Problem was, the included mounting bolts were a poor match and allowed some movement in the mount. Ouch!

PhilA
June 5, 2008, 10:59 PM
Apologies to the OP for what is most likely an unwanted answer, but...

PLEASE don't scope your Winnie. That's the kind of rifle that simply wasn't meant to have a scope put on it. It's kinda like teats on a bull, you know?

Again, sorry for the unsolicited advice, but I just couldn't help myself.

bogie
June 5, 2008, 11:13 PM
Right. Some things are just wrong.

If the target is so far away and so small that you need a scope for it, you need a bigger and more accurate rifle.

Malamute
June 6, 2008, 01:21 PM
Any 94 made from the early 50's on has enough holes to mount a receiver peep or a Weaver side mount without doing any more drilling. For some reason in the late 90's or so, Winchester quit drilling and tapping for receiver peep sights, but that doesnt affect you or your 70's gun.

I see no reason not to scope a 94 if you want the extra clarity. I disagree about it being wrong. It does have a few quirks, such as, the scope should be rotated 1/4 turn counterclockwise so the scope adjusting turret doesnt get in the way of the ejecting shell. You then need to keep in mind that the windage and elevation knobs are reversed. A little common sense when sighting in takes care of that issue. Yes, it is a little off center when side mounted, I can deal with that better than I can deal with a marlin. I simply like Winchesters far better than marlins (and yes, I've owned a bunch of both).

Most 94's are plenty accurate to use a scope, tho most people simply buy the cheapest ammo they can lay hands on and then say they arent accurate, but in thier bolt guns will try various loads, bullet weights, tinker with charges, etc,....There's also the issue of poor light, identifying horn count in some hunt areas, old eyesight. I see nothing wrong with a scope. Go for it.

bellystalker
July 7, 2008, 11:49 AM
i just put a scope and side mount on my pre 64 there was no drilling or taping done now ican hit the same mark at a 100 yards every time

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