[wco]

I'm considering my first black powder revolver. Which would you recommend as a good starting point?

I do go to the range fairly regularly but have little black powder experience. I have done some muzzle loading rifle shooting in the past but infrequently.



Thanks

[4v50 Gary]

Ruger Old Army. Simply the best black powder revolver ever made.

[scrat]

Well i guess thats pretty debatable. For me 1851 Navy then 1860 Army, then Mr. WALKER

[fineredmist]

The Rugar Old Army is now discontinued so you might have a problem finding new one but a used one is a good second bet. If you can't find the Rugar then consider a Uberti 1851 Navy (.36 cal) or an Uberti 1860 Army (.44 cal). I have both and they are good firearms and easy to learn to shoot.
There are some big differences in shooting cap and ball and cartridge revolvers and you should talk to a shooter to get more information. They are pleasant to shoot but they have their quirks.

[Calibre44]

Yep … the ‘Jury will be out’ on this one.

I’m with Scrat on the 1851 Navy and 1860 Army to start with but I end with ‘Mr Dragoon’ :)

[scrat]

Ya well i drink Coke. Taste great

[JayC]

I started with a Pietta Remington New Army. It is simpler to take apart, not having the wedge. The solid steel frame (with topstrap) is a plus, as well as the fact that the rear sight does not move when the hammer falls.

I once borrowed a Traditions 1851 "Colt" from a friend, and had a heck of a time removing the wedge. I ended up shearing the wedge spring pin and had to replace the wedge assembly as a result. Also, I had to narrow the first wedge (front-to-back dimension) to allow the cylinder to turn freely. I never shot the gun with the replacement wedge, but wanted to return it in proper condition. I gave him the old wedge too, since it shot fine without a wedge spring.

I am currently shopping for a repro of a Colt to get the "Colt experience," but honestly believe that if I had started with a Colt, I might not have stuck with cap and ball.

Remingtons are much simpler to operate and certainly stronger, in my opinion.

[K.A.T.]

Well I have 5 of them. I would start with a Uberti 1858, I would consider a Stainless Model if you think you will stay in the sport. I think the 1858 will be the easiest to start with. The 1858 will shoot low, you can file the front sight down and make it shoot to point of aim. The Colt models on the other hand are going to shoot high, to correct that you have to change the front sight, that is a lot more complicated. Most people leave the sights like they are on the Colts and just aim low.

The Ruger BP revolver is a great pistol, it is just a new invention. I mean, they were not around in the mid 1800's like the other models.

Learn all you can before you start. Safety first, don't be in a hurry, take your time.

[sharps59]

euroarms Roger & Spencer. the grip will fit any size hand. and they are accurate.like the remington it has a top strap so unlike a colt they will not have the chance of change point of impact on reassemble. plus a colt has the rear sight on the hammer that in time can wear at the pivot.and change aim point every time you pull it back.:banghead:
I know guys that use them but they have the gun reworked costing a few hundred to do. they put bushing and shims. then have the barrel wedge and aligning pin areas worked.:banghead:

[scrat]

OHHHH

WCO welcome to THR.

Also one thing we all failed to do. At the top of the black powder homepage you will find a link called. Black powder essentials. It has a lot of very good information that we have all put together. Its sort of like a reference. Even the experienced shooter will go to the top from time to time.

[Dave Markowitz]

I currently own an Uberti Colt 1851 Navy, a Ruger Old Army, a Pietta 1858 Remington Army (5.5" barrel) and a Euroarms 1858 Remington Army (8" barrel). I used to own an Uberti 3rd Model Dragoon, and have shot an Uberti Colt 1860 Army. Based on my experience, I'd recommend a Remington 1858 .44, or a Remington Navy in .36.

The Remingtons have better sights than the Colt and are easier to take down, IMO. Based on the Pietta I got from Cabela's about a year and a half ago, that's the brand I'd choose now. Good fit and finish at a reasonable price.

[theotherwaldo]

I have a similar array to Dave M., and would give identical advice. The '58 Remingtons in .44 caliber are my favorites, and I've been shooting them for right at thirty years.

I may change my opinion when I get a Walker, but I doubt it.

[Calibre44]

Ya well i drink Coke. Taste great

Scrat - that went right 'over my head! ... care to explain?:)

[scrat]

Asking someone what gun to buy is like asking what taste better coke or pepsi. We can talk about it all day long some will like coke some will like pepsi. Some people like red cars some like blue.

The best advice i can give on an unbiased opinion to anyone is this.

1st if you care read the history of the guns. Links like Uberti tell you a little history of the guns from the patterson to the 1873. Including the Remington. Reading the history will also tell you some of the features and benifits of the guns. Which is your next step. Check out the features and benefits of the guns. Then go to a gun shop and handle the guns see what fits good and proper. See if you can see the feature and benefits. After that the choice is yours. However thats the only way your going to find out what is a good revolver for you.

Otherwise I drink Coke Taste Great.

[JCT]

My first BP revolver was one noone here brought up yet. An Uberti 1849 pocket .31 ( Colt ). I was new to BP and handguns in general, so I wanted to start with something small. It still ends up being one of my favorites, 4 or 5 guns later. Small, light, easy to load, easy to shoot. Lot's of shots in one pound of BP and decent power with a .320 buckshot and 12 grains of good BP. It's a nice little gun and you could find one used fairly cheap.
My other favorites though, are the Dragoons and the Walker.

[Riot Earp]

Remington (My recommendation for a beginner)
-Very strong
-Easy to remove cylinder
-Arguably the simplest to use
-Historically accurate
-Binds quickly from powder fouling
-Grip shape less than perfect

Various Colts
-Best feel in the hand
-Natural pointers
-Historically accurate
-Can be difficult to disassemble/re-assemble
-Wedge will eventually wear out

Rogers & Spencer
-Grip shape works for most people
-Very strong
-Perfect balance
-(Sort of) historically accurate
-Removing loading lever can be challenging (screw must line up)

Ruger
-Best steel
-Most durable
-Not historically accurate
-Poor balance

[wco]

Thanks for the welcome and all of the good advice. This info, as well as the great stuff in the "black powder essentials" thread and the rest of the forum should help in my search and research.

Thanks again.

[mykeal]

The man asked what bp revolver was
...a good starting point...
Starting point.
As in, the first one to buy and the one to use learning the sport.
Not the only one he'll ever buy, not the one voted most likely to solve global warming...

scrat had the most useful bit of advice: read the BP Essentials sticky and go try some out.

Beyond that, I'm sure we could all agree that any one of the following, in no particular order, would be
...a good starting point...:
1851 Colt Navy
1858 Remington New Army
1860 Colt Army
1863 Rogers & Spencer
1973 Ruger Old Army

I'm not saying they're the BEST starting point, or the best bp gun, or anything like that. Just ...a good starting point...

[Voodoochile]

I agree with mykeal, all the revolvers mentioned are fine weapons to learn & enjoy the sport of Black Powder shooting & I would go along with his recomendations in that order.

1851 Colt Navy = very easy to point & shoot, & ballanced very well.
1858 Remington New Army = Very strong design, accurate & relatively easy to maintain.
1860 Colt Army = similar to the 51 Navy in function & feel except the grip is a little large for small hands.
1863 Rogers & Spencer = Never owned one but have shot one & they are IMHO close to being the best of both worlds in strength accuracy feel & pointability.
1973 Ruger Old Army = a fine modern C&B weapon that shoots quite well & is very easy to maintain.

[Fiveshooter]

Ruger
-Best steel....Yep!!:)
-Most durable....Yep!!:)
-Not historically accurate....Of course not.....It's an "original" LOL:neener:
-Poor balance....The 5.5" fixed sight model has great balance. The 7.5" models are a bit front heavy but then again you ever held a Walker?:)

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"Ruger Old Army. Simply the best black powder revolver ever made."
Very well put Gary. I agree totally with this statement.:)

My first C&B revolver was a Ruger Old Army. I now have 7 of them. If my first had been anything less I may have well given up on C&B revolvers. I have a few reproduction Remingtons and Colts as well. All of my replicas are Italian made and of soft steel. I wish an American manufacture would start making reproductions with good steel and better quality. I know it would be more expensive but I would buy them anyway. The Italian reproductions are still a great deal of fun.
I would have a hard time buying an Italian reproduction without looking it over myself because quality can run from "non shootable" as they come out of the box to pretty darned good. I have owned exaples of both.

It can be addictive either way you go:)

[Calibre44]

Otherwise I drink Coke Taste Great.

Ah right ... traditional bottle or can?

[scrat]

hahahahahah


Can poured in a glass with ice.

Sometimes i would ad a tad of vanilla extract. been doing that even before it was put in a can.

[bennadatto]

I asked the same question when I was getting involved with BP shooting. The advice I was given was largely in support of the 1858 Remington. However, my heart already belonged to the 1851 Navy, so that's what I got.

I absolutely LOVE it!! It looks, feels, and shoots great! I am glad I made the decision to go Navy!

Maybe ignorance is bliss and the 58 Remingtons are easier to deal with, but since I don't know the difference, I love my Navy!

Get what you really want, from a reputable vendor, and I really don't think you can make a "bad" decision.

[sundance44s]

My vote goes to the 1858 Remington as a first cap and ball pistol...there will be plenty of time for buying Colt open tops after you`ve learned how to shoot the Remington ...it is by far the easyest to learn on and there is alot to learn .....and then when you think you`ve got all you need ...there is always the Colt Walker , to spice up your life.

[Capt. Willard]

I have both styles but have to say the colt feels like a natural and looks great too..engraved cylinder scene etc....I'm definately a colt man but like my Remmies too!
I also find the Colt easier to clean because one can remove the entire barrel assembly.

[Bayou Runner]

1860 Army, although the 1858 Remington is a stout and excellent shooter. And then there is the Walker....hmmm. But I gotta admit that I've always been an 1860 Army fan. Prefer diet pepsi MAX too!

[scalper]

At the sake of repetition, I'd certainly go for the Ruger Old Army if you can find one and can afford it.

Otherwise, I'd probably start with a .36 caliber 1851 Navy revolver produced by either Uberti, Pietta, or Euroarms. Truth is as long as you stick with any one of the majors for a .36 or a .44, I think you will be fine. Get one of the Dixie Gun Works catalogs and sit back in your easy chair and look for something that catches your eye. If you are a do it yourselfer, you might even check out the kits. Be prepared though, once you get the bug on BP revolvers, you start wanting it all and it can get quite expensive. Just ask my wife. :D

[omarkw11@gmail.com]

you have been given excellent advice in all of above. boils down to what you want to represent / do with the pistol. solid frames are stronger and more accurate than colt. the ruger, as said above is not authentic, but should be an excellent gun. i have always thought the 51 navy was the best looking / feeling so that is what i have. would like to get a paterson, but they are not too comfortable for me to hold. guess im just fascinated with them. i believe they would be more fragile, also

[SWC Bonfire]

Depending on where you are, it may be easier to get .44 caliber balls in a wider variety of sizes than .36 unless you mail-order. Others here claim that a .36 shoots better with a .380 cast ball, which are hard to come by. Because of this, I would recommend a 1851 navy that is in .44 caliber instead - very easy to point & shoot (although it shoots high), easy to come by the right diameter balls (the pietta seems to like .452 by the way), and probably also the cheapest model as well in places like midway, cabela's and dixie gun works.

I have an el-cheapo brass framed pietta that was my first BP handgun, and with 18-20 grains of fffg 777 it is the most accurate handgun I have ever fired.

[Rikeman]

Really boils down to the type of shooting you do. I have always liked the larger calibre handguns, I carry a 45 on duty, so my first BP revolver was the Walker. Sense that time I have shot a variety of the other colts and my fathers Remington new army many times. Hands down my favorite is still my Walker!

Best of luck with your decision. I dont think you can really go wrong with any of the suggestions made here. I would suggest trying to find a local shop that sells a variety and see what feels best in the hand. I know for many, the near 5 lbs the walker weighs is just a bit too much for a days shooting.

[AdmiralB]

I'm in the same boat. Was a pretty hardcore shooter in the ISPC mold about fifteen years ago, then pretty much gave up shooting around 1996.

Now I'm getting into BP for the first time. Haven't fired one yet, and I don't have any local dealers, so I've ordered a bunch of stuff and am sifting through likes and dislikes.

So far I have had, and will probably keep:

A Walker - too big and bulky to be the *only* piece, more like performing art. But a great conversation starter.

A New Army - IMO (thus far) the most practical BP revolver. Sturdy, better sighting, and no worries about wedge wear.

An 1860 Army - the ultimate refinement of the .44 cal revolver.

...and possibly an 1851, probably the London model. I would toss this up with the 1861, but I can't stand the stock screws on the 1860 and 1861 (have an 1860 civ model en route) - they dig into my trigger finger.

Never really considered the Ruger, it makes all kind of practical sense but I've never like Rugers - bulky and clunky, by comparison to other makes...IMO at least. Had a Python and a 586 rather than a GP100, and a 629 rather than a Redhawk.

[pohill]

Does anyone here have only one BP revolver? I think the fun of this sport is the variety you can have for relatively small change. I have everything from the small .31 Baby Dragoon up to the Walker (neither of which is, in my opinion, an everyday shooter - the Baby Dragoon is too small, the Walker is a little on the large side). For sheer shooting fun - noise, boom, long range accuracy, and the looks on other shooter's faces - you can't beat the Walker.
I have an 1862 Pocket Police - for it's small size and relatively large powder charge (20 grs - same as the 1851 .36), it gives quite a kick and is probably my favorite one-handed shooter. The 1851 and 1861 Navy .36 are probably the best hand-fitting revolvers with their great balance. The larger .44s - 1860 Army, Dragoon, and the Remingtons (I have a Remington in .44 & .36), have balance and plenty of power. Remingtons don't have the wedge/barrel/frame issue to deal with but they can have their own problems (fouling on the pin for one). I also have a Kentucky pistol .45, which is amazingly accurate. The Paterson is a different breed altogther but a great shooter, too. For a brass framer I have a Spiller & Burr, and a High Standard Griswold and Gunnison, both tough and accurate guns.
For complete trouble free shooting I have a Ruger Old Army. Lightweight, good looking, exceptionally well made, never a cap jamming problem, accurate (adjustable sights), plenty of power, bigger chambers for cold weather loading - I was always very anti Ruger Old Army until I got one - now it's a favorite.
I just got my first original, a Whitney Navy .36 that should be a good shooter when I get tired of just looking at it.
BP shooting is like the old Lays potato chip commercial - Bet you can't eat just one.

[mykeal]

I couldn't have said it better.

Can't wait until you get a Rogers & Spencer and see where you put that in your list.

And there's the Starr single action and double action revolvers. I don't personally like them, but hey, you gotta try everything...

[scrat]

one bp revolver. hahahahah

2 1851's
1 1860
1 Walker

With im sure many more on the way as soon as i get a new safe. the other 2 are completely filled

[pohill]

Can't wait until you get a Rogers & Spencer and see where you put that in your list.
Are you reading my mind? I've been looking at them lately. But, are they different enough from a Remington, Whitney, or Spiller & Burr to justify buying one? An original would be great.
I looked at a Starr at my Toy Store recently but I'm thinking that with a complicated gun like the Starr, it better be well made, and I'm not sure how well made the replicas/repros are.
I have to admit I'm on an original Whitney kick now that I have one. You can pick them up for a lot less than an original Colt. I saw one in an antique store last weekend that was basically a relic - all rusted, just a frame, cylinder, hammer, and trigger. But the tag said "Dug up at Antietam." It would never be a shooter but if the tag was correct, it has some great history.
I really don't think I could choose one BP revolver - I could eliminate some from the choices, but picking just one? That's tough.

[mykeal]

Euroarms Rogers & Spencer is a fine gun. Yes, it's quite different from the Remington - I like it better, but that's a comment about grip and balance, both very personal items. I will not say it shoots better, however - I'm not good enough to make either better than the other.

Starr - no, they're not made well enough. At least, my 2001 Pietta isn't. I have worked on the action some, but not enough to clean it up and make it smooth. I don't like the feel, so the motivation isn't there. Maybe someday. However, you may find differently - definitely try one out first.

[Gunruner]

The 1860 Army was my first and second BP revolver. They were both Pietta's plus both shot to point of aim at approx 30 meters with my sight and hold! I once tried to see how many rounds I could fire without cleaning and shot over 50 with FFF Goex and crisco over the ball. I now have a Uberti 1858 Army and a ROA. I like the 1858 best of the three types. It has good balance, loads easily, cleans up easy, great fixed sights and is one of the new proper(same as original Rems.) sized frame/grip. The biggest drawback to the 1858 is the binding after only 12 rounds with real black(all I shoot). However it's the tightest of all 4 revolvers and the one I will take to the woods with. My Ruger has Rosewood grips that were not fitted to the grip frame properly and are oversized. It's looser in the cylinder lockup & loading lever than the three Italian guns. Plus it is really muzzel heavy, which is ok for the range but not for that quick shot out of the holster in the woods.
For first gun I'd go inexpensive and get a Pietta 1860 Army or 1851 Navy from Cabella's with the starter kit. At less than $275 you can have the revolver, starter kit, tin of caps, pound of powder, lube(crisco or bore butter) and a cleaning kit w/BIG bag of cleaning patches. In this day & age of high prices it doesn't get much cheaper than that for the whole kit and kaboodle. Just my opinions..........Mike

[wco]

Thanks for all the info and advice. I chose the Pietta 1858 New Army from Cabela's. I have already received it and am sure I going to really like it, especially once I get it to the range.

Here's another question though. The Pietta instruction manual recommends a powder charge of 12-15 grains FFFG whereas the Cabela's manual which also came with the revolver recommends 35 grains of FFFG or 28 grains of Pyrodex P. What's up with the discrepency between the two manuals?

[JayC]

Go with the Cabela recommendation as a starting point. Accuracy will vary as you experiment with different loads. As you start to get too heavy or too light, groups will open up.

[mykeal]

12-16 grains is too light, 35 grains is too heavy, and the implied equivalence of 35 grains of FFFG (real black powder?) and 28 grains of Pyrodex P is nonsense.

Start with either 25 or 30 grains of real black FFFg or Pyrodex P, it doesn't matter. Put about 80-100 rounds through the gun and just enjoy shooting it. Don't get too hung up on accuracy at this point. Once you've broken it in good and developed a loading procedure you're comfortable with, it's time to develop an accurate load.

Start with 20 grains FFFG real black powder or Pyrodex P. Shoot a group of 5 shots at 7-10 yards from a rest. Clean the bore and chambers and shoot another group of 5 shots at a new target using 25 grains; clean and shoot a group with 30 grains at a new target; clean and shoot a group with 35 grains at a new target. Mark each target with the amount of powder. Take great care that the only variable between groups is the powder load; in other words, do not vary your procedure or technique including, and this is very important, your sight picture or point of aim. Don't pay any attention to where the group is on the target. What's important is the size of the group.

The smallest group is your most accurate load. Start with the load that gave that group and shoot more groups varying the load up and down just 2 grains per group from that load; in other words, if 25 grains was the smallest group, shoot new groups (exactly the same technique and point of aim, etc. as above) with 23, 27, 21 and 29 grains to see if there is any more adjustment that's worthwhile.

Now that you have the best powder load you can start making other changes to see if they matter, things like lubed wads vs grease over the ball, different types of powder, different types and makes of round balls, amount of compression when loading, effects of global warming, etc.

And most of all, have fun shooting.

[PRM]

Been carrying and shooting 2nd Generation Colts for 3 decades now. Lot of fun and fond memories. I really like the 51 Navy and Walker models for accuracy. I have an 1862 Pocket Police that I had cut down to a 4.5 inch barrel with a smaller version of the Army front sight added. It was refinished at the Colt Black Powder Arms factory when they were up and running back on 2000. I also had a set of pre-ban Elephant Ivory grips made for it and my name engraved on the back strap. Little gun shoots great and is easy to pack for a trip in the woods. Most Colts and Colt clones shoot a little high on the point of aim to point of impact. Comes with the design. With practice this is easily compensated for and I have shot rabbits with it (stationary).

Slower to load than a modern counterpart - but twice the fun - Years ago when I bought my first C&B revolver I wanted to shoot, and did not have a lot of money. I could cast my own balls and go to the range for the fraction of the cost of shooting cartridge gun. Black powder really grows on you and only gets stronger with time.

Keep Your Powder Dry

[Grey Wolf]

I agree with riot earp almost 100%.
Remington fouling? swipe it out when you reload.
Colts look and are a bit delicate without a top strap.
Rogers & Spencer - why "sort of" historically accurate. I've never handled one. I have an original that I have shot a few times. IMO it's the most beautiful BP revolver ever made.
Ruger - I own and shoot an early one with a brass frame, most accurate and best built of all the above (Ruger quality control).
Adjustable sights not period correct. Disassembly and cleaning easiest of all.

I admit that I don't shoot revolvers much. Most of my shooting is with 1800-1836 single shot weapons

[fedaircop]

Well my first BP revolver was a Walker Colt. I love it I bought it mostly due to it's history but I do love the way it shoots. Amazingly accurate almost no felt recoil and lots of smoke and noise. It is a real attention getter at the range. I haven't had any of the problems that many folks here talk about with their walkers. the most annoying thing about it is caps falling off the nipples prior to firing and spent caps falling into the action after firing, but i suspect that would be a problem with any percussion revolver. Mine is an Uberti by the way. One heck of a lot of fun.

[Riot Earp]

I consider the Rogers & Spencer "sort of" historically accurate because they were delivered too late to be used in the Civil War. There is speculation that some were sold on the civilian market after the War and made it out West, but I've seen no hard evidence. They were mothballed until the turn of the Century and were used out West (and in Mexico) after that, both as cap & ball and as cartridge conversions. They feel great in the hand.

[scrat]

Well my first BP revolver was a Walker Colt. I love it I bought it mostly due to it's history but I do love the way it shoots. Amazingly accurate almost no felt recoil and lots of smoke and noise. It is a real attention getter at the range. I haven't had any of the problems that many folks here talk about with their walkers. the most annoying thing about it is caps falling off the nipples prior to firing and spent caps falling into the action after firing, but i suspect that would be a problem with any percussion revolver. Mine is an Uberti by the way. One heck of a lot of fun.

Three things

caps falling off and falling in the works. i have had so much trouble with this. almost seems like i needed to change the nipples. Then i thought it may be a light main spring. Maybe i needed to change it.


Then the loading lever always fell down from the very first time i fired it. tried the filing job but it would still fall down with 55 grains of goex. So now after i load it. i just take out the screw for the loading lever then remove it. ta da. now it doesnt fall.

Then i finally made the best choice around and purchased an R&D conversion cylinder. Timing seemed right on. I still took it to my local gun shop. 20 bucks later a couple hours later and the timing was perfect. they barely had to do anything but it was better insurance to have it checked. Now its soooo much fun to shoot. i cast the bullets now use goex 3fff. Winchester large pistol primers. Spg lube and wow what a shooter. its so much fun.

Once i fired my first round of 45 long colt i inspected the primer. The main spring is just fine hitting the primers hard. So i know its not a main spring problem at all. i know changing the nipples would probably help but in my area all i can get is cci caps so i need to match cci caps to the nipples. So thats my next task. however its just so much fun to shoot 45 long colt. Everybody still turns there heads to see what im shooting. The range officers always ask questions about the gun. even let them shoot it too. they all like it. it still shoots high with 45 long colt. i shot steel at 100 yards last time i was at the range with the walker. Of course i was using a bag. i didnt try it free hand. im not too sure i could next time i will try though.

[Jbar4Ranch]

Does anyone here have only one BP revolver?

I was doing a search for "High Standard Griswold & Gunnison" when I came across this old thread...

9 Ruger Old Armies
2 High Standard Griswold & Gunnison's
2 Pietta 1860's
2 Uberti Walkers
2 original 1849 Colts
1 ASM 1849 Colt pattern
1 Uberti 1873BP44

1 1st gen Colt SAA, circa 1876 (Ya didn't specify it had to be C&B)

[BHP FAN]

At this moment I have a Rogers and Spencer,a brass frame engraved .36 Remington,two .31 pocket Remington revolvers,a Spiller and Burr .36,and I have had at LEAST thirty revolvers over a fifty year lifetime,and IMHO,the Remington .36 is the best handling BP revolver made,tho' the Remington 51/2'' .44 comes in a close second.Ruger is the Cadillac,but for the price you can pick up a NEW Cabela's Remmie,and three or four spare cylinders,a holster,AND a belt.

[Elbert P . Suggins]

I proudly own a 3rd. generation Colt 1st Dragoon, 1 early Navy Arms 1851 36cal. Navy, 2 Pietta Remington 44 cal. New Army, 1 Uberti 5 1/2inch Remington 44 cal. New Army, 1 Pietta 1860 44 cal. Army, 1 SS Ruger Old Army 44 cal. and also 1 3rd. generation Colt SAA 45 cal., 2 Uberti Colt SAA 38 cal., 1 Ruger Vaquero 3 5/8" in 45 cal. that I shoot BP cartridge in CAS. I love this sport and it grows on you. I am in a smaller CAS club where we shoot twice a month with an average of 8-12 shooters and we have a protected area that doesn't get much of a breeze so I think you know that smoke has quite an influence on scores. Ah, the Aroma!

[Jbar4Ranch]

Well, if we're talking CAS revolvers with BP cartridges, I can fill a whole page! :p I thought 't'were just BP revolvers, as in not nitro proofed. ;) :D

[BHP FAN]

Oh,CARTRIDGE revolvers?.357 Thunderer,.357 Dakota,matched pair of consecutivly numbered .357 Uberti 1890's,mismatched .45 1875 Remingtons [one EMF,one Uberti ] Two New Dakotas,consecutivly numbered,in .45 Colt and one older model Dakota in .45 Colt.and that's just the western stuff,not counting the 1917 S&W,and the Webley,the Nagant....

[Voodoochile]

I presently have:

1 Pietta 1860 Army .44
2 Pietta 1858 NMA's .44
1 Uberti 1858 NMA .44

My brother still has my Uberti 3rd. Model Dragoon .44

& my father still has my family heirloom, an orriginal Colt 1851 Navy .36

So yeah I've got a small collection.

[BHP FAN]

That's a great collection Voodoochile! May I ask,which NMA grip do you prefer,Pietta,or Uberti?