Concealed carry while wearing scrubs.


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Sharp669
June 9, 2008, 02:39 PM
Hi- I am a healthcare worker. I often wear scrubs to work. no belt. I recently picked up a glock 27 .40 cal for CCW. Any suggestions on holsters to carry? My scrubs don't have a belt. ( I suppose I can wear a belt underneath if I must...).

also- a similar qeustion- what do folks use for a holster if you are wearing a t shirt and some simple gym shorts- again no belt. is there a product you can use for carry when you are jogging?

I do have a kydex injection molded holster. It has a belt clip. I think its for inside the waist carry.

I have not really carried before so I am a bit new at this so forgive my noob-ness.

Thnx.

Sharp669

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ScottyT
June 9, 2008, 02:42 PM
http://www.smartcarry.com/

RustyShackelford
June 9, 2008, 02:48 PM
I saw an interesting carry rig a few years ago I think it's called the Soft Holster. It works like a shoulder holster but goes under garments. It's made for med-small handguns. 5.11 and Kramer make good undershirt designs with side pockets for small weapons, ;). That could do well too.

www.gunvideos.com www.5.11tactical.com www.actiongear.com

Rusty S

rero360
June 9, 2008, 02:54 PM
a buddy of mine is a P.A. and if I remember correctly he has two different routes, one is a dillinger that he wears as a necklace and the other is a subcompact that he tied a piece of string to that goes around his waist, kind of just hangs there down his pants leg.

RevolverMan567
June 9, 2008, 02:55 PM
anything like a belly band will work fine, isnt there something called "thunderwear" or something like that. Its boxer breifs with a holster sewn in a 27 would orobably be fine for something like this.

The Lone Haranguer
June 9, 2008, 02:56 PM
The belly band and a Kramer or 5/11 holster/undershirt come to mind.

Cosmoline
June 9, 2008, 03:00 PM
I use a Ken Null seventrees style shoulder rig for deep concealment sans belt, but I don't know if those are kosher for Glocks.

Rokyudai
June 9, 2008, 03:01 PM
Is an ankle holster an option you can consider?


or


Check out "clip draws" in a google search. Depending on the quality/newness of the scrubs....they may hold well.

redneckrepairs
June 9, 2008, 03:10 PM
The surgeon who took out my wife's lymphoma last year in denver carried a pm9 in a don hume clip on iwb when i saw him after he operated . I have no idea if he did or did not carry it in the " theater " but when i met with him and visited late that night( after surgery while she was in recovery ) he had it in a waistband We were both winding down , and discovered neither of us like golf lol .

WinchesterAA
June 9, 2008, 03:13 PM
I don't think clip draw would work well for scrubs. I use clipdraw on my officer model but without a belt it sags pretty bad. (granted, it's a heavy pistol, but anything less than really tight belt doesn't work so well.

MillCreek
June 9, 2008, 03:22 PM
From years of experience in healthcare, I can tell you that the preferred method of carrying in scrubs is a belly band with a fanny pack a distant second. The light and relatively flimsy material does not support a belt or clip.

Virtually every hospital of which I am aware bans the possession of firearms on their premises, and violation is grounds for immediate termination if an employee does this.

Sharp669
June 9, 2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks to everyone for the great information!

We are a private health care site so I am not sure carrying will be an issue.

I could try an ankle holster but I think the G27 may weight a bit too much and slide around.

I am going to order a smartcarry/ thunderwear (they look identical- are they basically the same?) to try out. Are they pretty safe with a glock? I am sure reholstering will have to be done carefully. LOL!

It seems like a smartcarry type product is the only alternative to an IWB type carry without a belt. ( Can you wear an IWB with a belt under your scrubs or would that just slide around like crazy? )

The Kramer site is blocked from view where I am at curently but will check it out later. I will have to go try a belly belt at the gunstore when I get some time.

Other than IWB, does Kydex make any other holsters? A paddle or belt clip one I imagine. The way they "lock" the gun in place is pretty sweet. I fell pretty confident its not going anywhere and the trigger is secure.

thegriz
June 9, 2008, 03:41 PM
I use the smartcarry and the Kramer undershirt holster. Another option I use is the 5.11 tactical compression holster shirt. None of those options are perfect. All of them are good. I change it up depending on what activiites I expect to be doing that day.

I'm actually thinking of making my own shirt holster so I can get exactly what I want. I like the Kramer shirt holster design, but I like the pocket on the 5.11 compression shirt for spare mags. Neither is all that comfortable and I usually wear a traditional T-shirt underneath them. That's gets pretty hot at times. The design I'm thinking of will really be more like the vests football player's wear over their pads when scrimmaging to distinguish between the teams. We'll see if I ever get to work on it.

Rokyudai
June 9, 2008, 03:45 PM
That's kind of what I was thinking Winchester by adding the caveat. I've worn some that held well, others I couldn't keep a pen in!

Okiecruffler
June 9, 2008, 03:45 PM
Kinda depends on how you like your top to fit. I like a scrub top a size too big, gives me room to move when it's time to move. Problem with that is when I bent over you could see a shoulder rig if you looked down my top. Best way for me is a fanny pack, luckily in this field no one looks twice at a fanny pack.

WC145
June 9, 2008, 04:13 PM
Depending on your build you may consider trying a smaller gun. I am a pretty stout guy and I couldn't hide a G-27 in my scrubs regardless of holster (although I have been accused of such on occasion:what:) and fanny packs look as dorky with scrubs as any other clothing. I carry a Kel-tec P3AT clipped inside the waistband of my scrub pants and a knife clipped inside opposite of the gun. They are light enough that they don't drag my waistband down as long as I tie the pants good and snug. I just drop a spare mag into my shirt pocket and I'm good to go. Been carrying this way for a few years now without any trouble.

I am considering trying a Kangaroo Carry but I find scrub tops kind of close fitting and I think that even the Kel-tec might print through it. www.kangaroocarry.com

Bob R
June 9, 2008, 04:24 PM
Or, just don't wear scrubs unless you are forced to.

I wear either solid color (black/khaki) BDU's or 5.11 pants I got on closeout at work. The cargo pockets are just the thing for PDA's, alcohol wipes or any number of things. And they don't wear out nearly as quick as scrub pants.

bob

Rangermedic
June 9, 2008, 04:25 PM
+1 on the fanny pack
also gives you a place to put your "extra gear'.

mr.72
June 9, 2008, 04:36 PM
+1 Smartcarry. It's different and probably better vs. Thunderwear.

Smartcarry works with everything.

SCGirl
June 9, 2008, 04:47 PM
I wear scrubs also, and although I use an IWB, with a small pistol (beretta TomCat), I wanna try something else. I was gonna get the belly band, but being a woman, I was not sure how I would like, and don't wanna order it before I try it

blackcash88
June 9, 2008, 04:56 PM
I'd get a P3AT and use that holster you wear around your neck on a chain. Can't remember who makes it. Desantis or FIST, perhaps.

Treo
June 9, 2008, 05:09 PM
I wear suspenders under my scrub top. They hold the pants up pretty good but I don't think they'd support a gun. The local medical supply sells a heavier version on scrub pants complete W/ belt. Is the concern SD to & from work or in the clinic?

33-805
June 9, 2008, 05:25 PM
You might try the 5.11 pants route as mentioned above. I carry my G27 in a pocket holster (Nemesis model from Desantis) in these pants and no one has ever seen it or commented on it if they did. The pants come in a fairly wide variety of colors so you can change them up daily. They even have a handy-dandy pocket that fits a Glock model 22 magazine very nicely.

I have carried a G27 in an ankle holster but those work best with the holster worn over a high top duty boot. On their own worn just over a sock, any ankle holster I have worn has flopped around quite a bit.

Ready2Defend
June 9, 2008, 05:36 PM
This can work, but printing is an issue.
www.activeprogear.com/234.html

Wear the scrubs loose. Keep the support straps from showing through the v neck of the scrubs.

kk5ib
June 9, 2008, 05:50 PM
I finally found my simple, cheap answer to this problem, mine being wearing light nylon gym pants with drawstring (no belt) and workout tee-shirts. (Similiar to any casual clothing like scrubs without a real belt.) I use a Uncle Mike's Sidekick Holster Belt, 2" wide, of stiff nylon, and any IWB holster, currently using a nylon KNJ for a Kel-Tec P11. I tuck an inner tee inside the pants, tighten the drawstring, and position the belt and holster over the pants at the waistline. The belt has a clamp-type buckle so adjust as tight as necessary. Then I place the top tee-shirt over everything, untucked. Of course the top tee needs to be on the large side. The belt sells for $10.99 most places, and most of us already have IWB holsters. Very secure, relatively easy to access, minimum printing, not too expensive, not too uncomfortable. What's not to like? It's not the best with a big gun, but there are other ways for that.
Darryl

loneviking
June 9, 2008, 08:23 PM
Here's a rig that can work with scrubs:

http://members.sti.net/thebrsfamily/buildertech/

One of the guys that builds these carries a 44 auto-mag in it. Takes about two weeks to get the order made but it's real heavy elastic and made to fit you!

camslam
June 9, 2008, 08:33 PM
Smartcarry is awesome for when you don't have a belt.

I love mine and use it on a regular basis. Not the best access, but with practice still very reliable.

I don't think there is better concealment if you ask me. I have tried OWB, IWB, Smartcarry, etc... I usually carry in my MTAC, but when I don't have a belt, Smartcarry does the job.

Good luck.

doc2rn
June 9, 2008, 08:41 PM
Try a smaller weapon system in a pocket holster of a lab jacket, or get a NAA derringer with the necklace holster.

qwert65
June 9, 2008, 08:44 PM
if you have a gun kel-tec, naa sized you can just but the scrubs with pockets

JohnMcD348
June 9, 2008, 11:00 PM
I wear the Landua brand 5 pocket scrub pants(model 8555) and can comfortably carry with a clip type holster. They have a draw string and elastic waist band that snugs the SOtB holster up well. The string is actually a braded fabric type material that isn't sewn in the rear back area but a continuous strand so there's no real risk of it breaking. Trust me on this, I've been wearing these things for years and they wear well. I also wear the 7489 top which has multi pockets. Again, it hangs well and I don't tuck in the shirt. Since it has pockets on the lower front area, it looks more apt untucked so it helps to conceal well. When/if I carry, I've got a PPK/s that usually goes with me so it's not a larger bulkier pistol and easier to carry well for 12-24 hours.

The Landua's are a little more than the usual run of the mill $5-12 scrubs. But, they last well and look good. Buy a pair and see what you think.

hoosier8
June 9, 2008, 11:11 PM
I vote for SmartCarry. I have one that will carry a 1911 full size. I also use safety pins to match other models of pistols and often carry a Bersa 380CC under dress pants, with no printing. Under scrubs, you could carry just about anything (if you have the room, lol).

janobles14
June 9, 2008, 11:18 PM
i also have to wear scrubs sometimes. i wear a galco ankle glove and it works great!

.cheese.
June 10, 2008, 10:58 AM
be careful. My father (a doctor) owns and runs a medium/large outpatient center that is attached to one of his group's offices (part owner along with the other doctors in the group). While I've convinced him to look the other way should he find out that an employee is lawfully carrying, I'm pretty sure the other doctors would vote to terminate the employee.

I'm also fairly certain this would be the case at well over 90% of the health care facilities down here.

Maybe things are different in Arizona (I hope so). If not though, just remember that concealed means concealed - always.

As for the Glock 27 (great gun btw) with scrubs, I recommend either an ankle holster. I would imagine that it's too hot in Arizona for any kind of undershirt/holster rig. Smart carry is another option.

For shorts and a T-shirt though - you aren't planning to carry the Glock 27 then are you? I recommend you get a small pocket pistol (Ruger LCP, Keltec P3AT, Seecamp, or similar). Carry it in your pocket with a holster. I haven't found any other possibility being practical.

strat81
June 10, 2008, 11:43 AM
You might want to consider a different tool... maybe a Ruger LCP or S&W Scandium frame revolver.

Otherwise, I'd go for a belly band.

paramedic70002
June 10, 2008, 01:57 PM
Maybe the Beltster on bare skin or over a long tee shirt?

http://www.banderagunleather.com/

DVMSteve
December 1, 2008, 03:04 AM
I know the discussion is dead and gone, but for anybody searching and reading after the fact, as I did, I'll offer my opinion.

I wear scrubs 60 hours a week, and am on my feet 58 of those. I carry my Glock 26 in a Galco Ankle Glove, and it works very well. With the calf strap, it doesn't settle down on top of my shoe.

Also, the scrub pants are light and loose, making for a faster draw than with other pants. Faster being a very relative term here, of course. ;)

Dravur
December 1, 2008, 10:53 AM
If you arent too hairy, Duct tape....

WinchesterAA
December 1, 2008, 11:11 AM
I know someone has already said it, but the SmartCarry is freakin awesome. I carry an officers model with slimline grips, a novak mag with a pretty big floorplate through attics, trees, under houses, etc and barely notice it 99% of the time. The only time it's a PITA is in a crawspace with rafters being horizontal to the direction of movement, cuz it hangs down some from the slack and catches on the rafters. That's no good, and it's not a design flaw, it's a size flaw.. I'm very skinny and the strap is a little bit too big to secure with the velcro and have a tight fit.


Also, in addition to not really noticing it in your pants, you have a hard time noticing it outside of your pants, too. I wear jeans all the time, but tried it out a lot with shorts, dress pants, etc. Shorts were fine, dress pants the overhang of the grip would really stand out by the pocket. An untucked shirt is an essential item for light clothing.






scrubs? should be just fine, especially if you have a pistol smaller than a 1911OM.


Additionally, with an ambidextrous safety it would normally be disengaged by the end of the day. I swapped out the ambi safety for a standard non extended safety and never had that problem again.


The pistol doesn't get sweaty at all, and i've had no problems in the rain either.



Buy it.


(may complicate trips to the bathroom)

lotus
December 1, 2008, 12:04 PM
How about a small CCW fanny pack? There's usually a general purpose pocket on them so you can carry med stuff there but still have access to your pistol when needed.

WC145
December 1, 2008, 01:07 PM
Since I last posted in this thread I've switched from my P3AT to a scandium j-frame in a Cobra Gunskin ankle holster. Comfortable and easy to conceal, also very lightweight so it doesn't flop around.

doc540
December 1, 2008, 01:31 PM
SmartCarry

If you don't like it, send it back, and he'll give you all your money back.

Can't beat that deal.

nachosgrande
December 1, 2008, 03:35 PM
redneckrepairs,

Funny you should mention a dislike of golf. I'm always surprised with how many gun people don't care for other sports. As far as I'm concerned, they're all the same at their core. Golf, football, basketball, shooting, hunting, archery are all taking a projectile and trying to put it in a small target. When it comes down to it, that's it. Unless, of course, you are into guns for strictly self defense purposes, and not the sport of it. They're all the same to me.

doc540
December 1, 2008, 03:52 PM
There are only three sports: bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor racing. There rest are merely games.

No, I didn't say that and neither did Hemingway. :cool:

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