Multi state CCW W/O class?


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hsiddall
June 9, 2008, 10:46 PM
I thought that I read here somewhere that there was a state issuing non resident permits and required no class. My father in law and I paln to take a utah/florida combo but this is until then.

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wdlsguy
June 9, 2008, 10:52 PM
It would help us if you told us what state you live in. If you are a resident of Illinois or Wisconsin you can get a Pennsylvania LTCF from Centre County:

http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/license_application.asp

hsiddall
June 9, 2008, 11:02 PM
Illinois


Peoples Republic of Daley

George C Morrison
June 9, 2008, 11:08 PM
As wdlsguy said,go for it.
A PA license will be in your hands within 2 weeks or less.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/maps/pennsylvania_map.gif

romma
June 9, 2008, 11:38 PM
New Hampshire. Super easy.

csmkersh
June 9, 2008, 11:45 PM
Doesn't New Hampshire still require you have a CHL in your home state? Did 4 years ago when I applied.

wdlsguy
June 10, 2008, 12:17 AM
Good point, romma. When your PA license arrives you can apply for NH.

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/plupr.html

VPLthrneck
June 10, 2008, 12:34 AM
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/NonResidentPermits.pdf

This doc shows 9 states where you can apply for non-resident permits by mail.

Pennsylvia looks like the best place to get a non-resident permit w/o a course, followed by New Hampshire (as long as you have a permit from another state).

Maine and Florida look almost as easy but for the requirement to prove "firearms training" with in the past 5 years. However if you're a vetern/active/reservist they don't require that (a copy of ID card or discharge papers cover it).
And FL is expensive if you ask me at $117.

Old Guy
June 10, 2008, 04:49 AM
The Florida class does not require you fire a round! But having said that, more LEOs are shooting themselves by accident than CCW Citizens, and there are lots more private Citizens than Police with holstered loaded hand guns.

hsiddall
June 10, 2008, 10:31 AM
What states is the PA permit valid?

MD_Willington
June 10, 2008, 10:36 AM
WA State CPL: http://www.legallyarmed.org/stateccw/?state=WA
AK
ID
IN
KY
LA
MI
MS
MT
NC
OH
OK
SD
TN
TX
UT
VA
VT

May be out of your way to get it though.

Rumble
June 10, 2008, 10:40 AM
When I got my Florida permit a couple years back, the requirement was to show evidence that I had taken a class of some sort (basically, that I had evidence to show I had some firearms familiarization). A basic NRA class, for instance, or hunter training, or military experience.

wdlsguy
June 10, 2008, 12:28 PM
What states is the PA permit valid?

Pennsylvania - AK, AR, AZ, CO, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MO, MS, MT, NC, ND, NH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT, WV, WY

Colorado (CO), Michigan (MI), South Carolina (SC), New Hampshire (NH), Florida (FL), Kansas (KS) and West Virginia (WV) only honor permits from residents of the issuing states.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf

hsiddall
June 10, 2008, 03:09 PM
Well sent the app in today(PA). What kind of turnaround to expect...Ive got a clean background and this I am sure of as I am a municipal employee so Ive had a few checks...:D

George C Morrison
June 10, 2008, 04:39 PM
Well sent the app in today(PA). What kind of turnaround to expect...Ive got a clean background and this I am sure of as I am a municipal employee so Ive had a few checks.:D..

Mine took ten days mailbox to mailbox from Centre County.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/maps/pennsylvania_map.gif

hsiddall
June 10, 2008, 04:48 PM
What state do u live in? 10 days is awesome...

George C Morrison
June 10, 2008, 04:54 PM
What state do u live in? 10 days is awesome...

Florida.By the way when I applied for New Hampshire that took 5 days box to box!
They don't even require a photo .Very inexpensive.20 dollars a few years ago.
As several posters suggested get NH after you receive your PA.
I'll list what states honor NH for you.See link:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/maps/new_hampshire_map.gif

mr.72
June 10, 2008, 05:23 PM
I think the PA permit may require you to have a permit for your home state right?

George C Morrison
June 10, 2008, 05:49 PM
I think the PA permit may require you to have a permit for your home state right?

If your home state issues permits,correct.
Illinois does not issue permits.See:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/NonResidentPermits.pdf

Yellowfin
June 10, 2008, 06:32 PM
I wonder if PA would consider CA and NJ non issuing states. In theory they do, but in practice they don't.

wdlsguy
June 10, 2008, 07:18 PM
I think the PA permit may require you to have a permit for your home state right?
You need a permit from your home state if that state has a concealed carry law. Residents of Illinois, Vermont and Wisconsin are exempt from this requirement.

I wonder if PA would consider CA and NJ non issuing states.
No such luck.

SCGirl
June 10, 2008, 07:43 PM
I have the SC permit, and I am getting the Utah permit, and don't have to take the class for it, just pay my money

VPLthrneck
June 10, 2008, 08:00 PM
After finding out they have a sheriff over there that is helpful with non-residents getting permits, I'll be applying for their's after I get one from Washington. Then when I go one leave later this year I'll get Montana's. I know there will be several duplicate coverages there, but with the "resident only" clause for certain states, this should cover it.

Hsidell--deffinately keep us posted on the turn around time.
From what I read it sounded like a few weeks; is this the same as a PA resident?

Old Guy wrote-
The Florida class does not require you fire a round!

Rumble wrote-
show evidence that I had taken a class of some sort (basically, that I had evidence to show I had some firearms familiarization)A basic NRA class, or hunter training, or military experience.

Thanks for clearing that up. FL's DOJ/DOL site wasn't very clear on the exact class requirement outside the military experience.

Mortech
June 11, 2008, 01:05 AM
A copy of your DD214 is good enough for Florida , thats what I used

hsiddall
June 11, 2008, 10:35 AM
Dd214???

SCGirl
June 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
military paper

hsiddall
June 11, 2008, 02:31 PM
AHHH!!! That was what I was thinking, but I wasnt sure.

Rumble
June 11, 2008, 03:42 PM
From what I read it sounded like a few weeks; is this the same as a PA resident?

PA Resident permits seem to vary a bit - I got mine in 3 days; my wife had hers before she left the sheriff's office. They have some leeway in the law (I think it's like 45 days or something, but I don't remember what the application says) but it's generally very quick and painless. I don't know how that compares to getting a nonres permit.

hsiddall
June 16, 2008, 02:18 PM
Non Resident PA permit in hands today. Just opening my mail and there was that self adressed envelolpe. 6 days total 3.5 buisness days...:D

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