If there were no Class 3 restrictions...
natedog
August 22, 2003, 08:31 PM
If their were no Class 3 weapon restrictions whatsover, would all of your semi-auto's have a selector switch? Would you have suppressors for many of your firearms? What about your defensive shotgun, would it have a sub 18" barrel?
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Hkmp5sd
August 22, 2003, 08:41 PM
Doubt I'd convert my Garand to select fire, but most everything else would get it. I already have suppressors on many of the guns I'd want them on and will add them to the rest as $$$ permits.
Dave Markowitz
August 22, 2003, 08:41 PM
I'd be more interested in suppressors than full auto. I'd like the ability to tone down the noise a bit. I am actually toying with the idea of getting a .22 with a can for this reason.
While I'd really like to play around with full auto, even if the gun isn't expensive the ammo bill adds up. So unless I was rich I probably wouldn't bother with it. (I don't see any real advantage over a semiauto for any practical purpose that _I'd_ put the gun to.)
CleverNickname
August 22, 2003, 08:46 PM
I'd convert any weapons that were meant to be full-auto to full-auto. My evil black rifles would get a new position on the selector switch, and I'd want to get one of those gadgets that change Glocks to full-auto too. The cost of suppressors would go down once the impediments to ownership were removed, so I don't see any reason not to get a few of those either.
MarkScottShow.US
August 22, 2003, 08:52 PM
Suppressors would be fine so not disturb the folks next door, Selector switches with three round bursts are fine, but I need a Gatling gun <G>
444
August 22, 2003, 08:53 PM
I have purchased both already. If it were easier to do, yes I would have a few more select fire weapons and a few more cans. Nothing drastic; I wouldn't feel the need to have everything select fire. But something like my Colt AR15 in 9mm would definitely be select fire. My 5.56 ARs, probably not.
mgjohn
August 22, 2003, 08:59 PM
Yes, most all the black guns would get selector switches and I would also pick up a number of suppressors.
DMK
August 22, 2003, 09:04 PM
A suppressor for one of my 1911s or Walther PP would be nice.
I'd probably have a select fire 9mm AR with a 14" barrel. I'd have a Tommy Gun and a Krinkov for sure.
I would not have shorter shotgun though. I like the 8 round capacity of my Mossberg
Standing Wolf
August 22, 2003, 09:07 PM
None for me, thanks: I have a hard enough time putting one shot in the right place on the target.
cool45auto
August 22, 2003, 09:08 PM
I'd have a couple of select fire Beretta's and a couple of silencers for them. Right now I'm into bolt action battle rifles so those would stay the same of course. I don't have any evil black rifles to convert.:(
capnrik
August 22, 2003, 09:37 PM
Can you say, MP5?
4v50 Gary
August 22, 2003, 09:48 PM
I'd have a Thompson, an a M-2 of course. I suppose a real M-16 would be nice too. As for shotguns, I prefer the longer magazine tubes so everything stays 18-20" long.
Skunkabilly
August 22, 2003, 09:58 PM
Probably just submachine guns, unless it cost nothing extra, then yeah, why the heck not? :D
A Benelli 14" would be on the top of the list for the Class III list though.
TrapperReady
August 22, 2003, 10:09 PM
Nope. I got my fill of full-auto-fun courtesy of the US Army. Especially if I'm paying for ammo, semi-auto is plenty good enough. In fact, I don't think I'm giving up anything by doing so.
Hmmm... unless I could get one of those MG42s. Although an original BAR would be a good choice also.
I would like to have a few items silenced, just because I'm starting to lose hearing in my left ear.
CleverNickname
August 22, 2003, 10:21 PM
but I need a Gatling gun
If you're talking about a Gatling gun similar to the original one from the 19th century, and not a GE or Dillon minigun, go ahead and get one then. They're normal title I guns. They're not machineguns because you have to keep turning the crank, instead of just holding down a trigger. It would only become a machinegun if you hooked up the crank to a motor. Then the motor's switch would become the defacto trigger, because it would have the capability to cause the gun to expel multiple bullets each time the motor moved the crank.
hso
August 22, 2003, 10:43 PM
Probably several "cheap to feed" ones would be selective fire. Those and others would have sound supressors. Certainly there would be a couple of short shotguns. Hey, there might even be a short barreled shotgun with a supressor and a selector switch:D .
NewShooter78
August 22, 2003, 10:48 PM
I'd like a can for the handgun. And probably a full-auto AK just to have one on the cheap.
JShirley
August 23, 2003, 12:08 AM
I'd have: M-79
Skorpion (in .32 ACCP)
BAR-D
Bizon II in 7.62x25mm
M2 Carbine
Don't really feel the need for all my weapons to have auto capability (useless on my G1, for instance), but most of weapons would have cans or integral sound suppressors. More civilized...
jsalcedo
August 23, 2003, 12:49 AM
I would leave my guns alone and buy new ones with selector switches
built into the design.
The American 180 would be my first choice.
177 round drum of 22LR empties in about 9 seconds.
mainmech48
August 23, 2003, 01:28 AM
I probably have one subgun, just for grins. Almost certainly something in 9x19 for economy's sake. The Russian "Bizon" has some interesting features, and would be relatively inexpensive.
I'd LOVE to try one of the amazing AN-94s some time. From what I've read, it may well be the most advanced assault rifle design yet made. Thank God the Russkies don't have the financial assets to produce and issue it en masse....yet.
A .22 rifle with an integral suppressor would be sweet for hunting small game around where I live. Lots of the small woodlots where I used to get my best squirrel hunting aren't available anymore because of complaints from residents in the small subdivisions that've been popping up like mushrooms in our county. The landowners get hassled with threats of nuisance suits, and the Sheriff's deputies get tired of dealing with bogus "shots fired" runs from hysterical soccer Moms.
JShirley
August 23, 2003, 02:18 AM
mm, 7.62x25mm economical, too, and penetrates better. :)
An-94: YES. Very cool. Just need to change the sights.
another48hrs
August 23, 2003, 02:35 AM
I think a glock 18 or any other machine pistol would be fun to have. It would serve no purpose but to eat lots of ammo and then burp it out. Put in one of those link fed devices in there (I've seen it done on a 1911 so it wouldn't be that hard to do for a glock) and you're ready to rock and roll.:evil:
Zeke Menuar
August 23, 2003, 02:50 AM
Class 3 guns?
A Thompson of course. Just like the gansters had!
An AK with a three shot burst instead of full auto
M-3 Grease gun
A Browning 50 cal mounted in the back of a jeep for varmint hunting. Really do a number on them pesky jack-rabbits.
A semi-suppressed 22-K-Hornet for stealthy varmint control.
ZM
Pinned&Recessed
August 23, 2003, 03:29 AM
My Glock becomes Select-Fire
My AR-15 becomes an M-16
My M1 Carbine becomes an M2 Carbine
Cans all around
I'd look at a F/A .22. Maybe a converted 10/22, or a .22 belt-fed M16 upper.
(2-10 each of the following)
BAR
Ak-47
M2
M1917
M1919A4/A6
MAG-58
Bren LMG
Colt Monitor
H&K G3
FN FAL
MG34
MG42
At least a dozen M-16s in different calibers/configurations
Every single gun I own would be full-auto (if applicable). I want the option of leaving my selector on Semi.
I've really got a desire for F/A weapons, mostly due to the "forbidden fruit" aspect. If I could Form 1 my AR like I could pre-May 19, 1986, there'd be less magic. But because some bureaucrat in Washington decided FOR me that I cannot have CHEAP machine guns, well, I want a complete stable of machine guns. Just to piss the liberal pantywaists off. Even if I never flip the selector to auto, just the fact that I have them is enough for me.
My list is by far not complete or comprehensive. With rare exception, (the French Chauchat comes to mind), I want at least 5 of every machine gun ever made.
Hal
August 23, 2003, 04:36 AM
Wife = most expensive "date" you'll ever have in your life.
4X4 = Goes anwhere except past a gas station.
Boat = a hole in the water you pour money into.
Night in jail = most expesive "motel" bill you'll ever have.
That little skinny wimpy guy you flipped off = A crazed Tasmanian Devil that comes at you from all directions.
"Hey, watch this!" = a trip to the ER.
"Betcha can't _____(fill in the blank) = ditto the above.
Rot gut = rotted gut
Full auto = empty bank acount.
Lessons learned from life *sigh*
:neener:
Tommy Gunn
August 23, 2003, 09:13 AM
No more of those lame 16" barrels on the Thompson's and other SMG designs. It just don't look right to have such a long barrel on SMG's. The Thompson was meant to have a 10" barrel.
My first order would be a 1928A1 Thompsen SMG with the 50rd and 100rd drum magazines.
I would be collecting mostly submachine guns, I never saw much need for full auto capability in a rifle.
Kharn
August 23, 2003, 09:20 AM
I'd have all the goodies, every gun that could be full auto would be, every gun that it was practical on would have a threaded barrel at least stashed away for it, and there'd be a few shorty shotgun barrels sitting around too.
That doesnt mean I'd use'em for home defense, the ones that worked out in training classes would be used for it, but I'd have them mostly just for the cool factor.
Kharn
redneck2
August 23, 2003, 09:36 AM
(A) I have a hard time feeding the ones I have now, and
(B) I'd just have more guns that I didn't use taking up space in the safe
Art sez a gun turns money into noise. You can go through $100 worth of ammo real quick. With a silenced full auto, it costs a lot more and you only get half the equation
If'n you wanna be a pretend bada** I suppose they're alright, but I've shot full auto. As above, most of us (me included) have a hard time getting one shot at a time on the target.....
Now, if deer charged at me hundreds or thousands at a time like enemy soldiers, I might change my mind. Guess I'm just getting soft in my old age.
Bigjake
August 23, 2003, 10:46 AM
maybe a suppresed 10/22, and definatly a can for my winchester 70 .243
Pappy John
August 23, 2003, 10:48 AM
Maybe I'd convert my 10/22 to select fire. I got to shoot one of those a couple years ago...and what a hoot that was!! But as far as centerfire goes, I can barely keep myself in ammo now.
Futo Inu
August 23, 2003, 11:33 AM
Yes, I'd probably has a 10 or 12" barreled home defense shotgun (though that doesn't require class III, just a cheap tax stamp). I'd also have some suppressors for sure, particularly on .22s so I could shoot them around the house without disturbing the neighbors. And at least one select-fire - probably an HK MP5/10 (10mm), if available and affordable. No, other rifles would not be select-fire. Well, I'd also have an AK in select fire - that's cheap to convert and shoot. And yes, a suppressed AND select-fire .22 is very appealing, come to think of it. At least one suppressed .22 handgun and one suppressed 9x19 handgun too. Wow, this is gonna break me financially.
natedog
August 23, 2003, 12:25 PM
Ok, I'll play. I would definatly have a suppressor for my Marlin 795 LR, and an American 180 .22 submachine gun. Also, my Mini-14 would get a selector switch, folding stock, flash suppressor, bayonet lug, etc.
Hkmp5sd
August 23, 2003, 01:56 PM
And I would own a P90, Glock 18, Scorpion and Beretta 93R. :D
toddler
August 23, 2003, 02:23 PM
I want an MP7 as a backwoods self defence gun.
Just because.
Figure with it's penetration, on full auto it'll stop a po'd brown bear with just one magazine. Probably be pretty good if I'm ever in a sunfish and need to defend myself against a great white too.
Such a multipurpose weapon ;) :rolleyes: . If I had that, maybe I wouldn't want a DRC takedown in 450 Marlin with a fiberglass stock. Since I'd probably never want to shoot a 450 Marlin enough to get good with it, given it's so loud, rounds are expensive, and it will have about 40 ft#'s of recoil in a light rifle.
Hmm, actually, I'd still want the DRC, just put a sleeve type suppressor on it. The kind that go back over the barrel. May cut a little of the noise and some of that kick.
Guess I'll also want a 14" suppressed 12 gauge pump. I know the suppressor won't do much, but it'll make it a little quieter and a little gentler. If suppressors weren't such a hassle to get, more would be sold and a lot of people would hear better. STUPID law/tax!
Todd
PS) since I probably just asked for 6K worth of firearms, can I win the powerball too?
JShirley
August 23, 2003, 02:25 PM
Darn! Forgot P-90 and 93R!
Orthonym
August 23, 2003, 11:45 PM
A suppressed .22. There's this Yorkshire terrier....
Just kiddin'. Actually I'll just continue to bark back at it until it has a heart attack.
Hkmp5sd
August 24, 2003, 12:03 AM
There's this Yorkshire terrier
The high powered, high capacity SuperSoaker works wonders on these type problems. Depending on the choice of ammunition used, cats and dogs running loose in the neighborhood learn real fast to avoid your yard. :)
stevelyn
August 24, 2003, 07:11 AM
Between Uncle Sugar and Class III sales demos, I've had enough full-auto to last a lifetime. Now, whisper tubes OTOH have practical merit. Nothing more annoying than whiney neighbors moaning about how your pest control methods are disturbing them.
Hmmmm..........Note to self: Explore the engineering and legal challenges associated with temporarily mating hand-cranked Gatling gun to old stationary multi-speed mountain bike.
jsalcedo
August 24, 2003, 09:54 AM
Full auto is fun in limited doses.
I've never just blasted out a magazine full without regard to hitting my target. Carefully aimed 6 round bursts at differing reactive targets is just as enjoyable as any other shooting activity IMO.
At 25 yards It is not hard to empty 30 rounds from a Thompson into the
COM of a man sized sillouette in under 8 seconds. Muzzle climb is exaggerated by most in regards to pistol caliber full auto.
Careful trigger work is much more important when shooting battle rifles.
The long range results of careful bursts are gratifying when shooting
steel, water bottles, old cars etc...
I pray that in my lifetime full auto weapons will be available for reasonable prices once again.
MarkScottShow.US
August 24, 2003, 04:30 PM
" Hmmmm..........Note to self: Explore the engineering and legal challenges associated with temporarily mating hand-cranked Gatling gun to old stationary multi-speed mountain bike.
"
LMAO --- Good one, I always wanted to know if handcranks Gatling guns were legal in Michigan......and if it comes with a mountain bike for good old heart work out even better.................
SodaPop
August 24, 2003, 09:29 PM
For my FAL???? ABSOLUTELY !!:D
JShirley
August 24, 2003, 09:35 PM
I wouldn't try to control your right to have it, but FAL's are too light to control FA, unless you get a heavy barrel, keep the bipod on it, and fire short bursts.
Combat-wombat
August 24, 2003, 10:26 PM
Sig SG 552
M16A2
M4A1
Glock 18
Uzi
Many MANY more
Nightcrawler
August 24, 2003, 10:58 PM
I'd like a MAC-10 and Uzi.
Both in 10mm.
:evil:
SodaPop
August 25, 2003, 12:51 AM
I wouldn't try to control your right to have it, but FAL's are too light to control FA
I've heard people say that, but I've shot my FAL rapid-fire and thought it was way more controllable than the M1A.
OEF_VET
August 25, 2003, 10:20 AM
Well, if two conditions were met: 1) repeal of NFA and FOPA, and 2) I won Powerball, I'd love to have a few new toys.
These would include:
suppressed P-22
suppressed 9mm
F/A AK-47
M-16A4
M-249 SAW
MP-5SD
Of course, I'd end up wanting more, but these would suffice for the time being.
Frank
Erik
August 25, 2003, 04:04 PM
I could see myself opting for an extremely quite basement range a la a silenced .22 or something along those lines.
That's about it, though.
.45Ruger
August 25, 2003, 04:45 PM
Full Auto would be fun but as others have stated that's a lot of money just to make some good noise. I think my full auto would be 22.LR, because it is so cheap and the recoil would be pretty conrrollable, now a silenced .22 to take care of the local cat problem would be great.
JShirley
August 26, 2003, 12:43 AM
I've shot my FAL rapid-fire and thought it was way more controllable than the M1A. ...which was uncontrollable even in heavier, pistol-gripped format.
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