[ArmedBear]

So, how many of you consider a bench grinder to be a normal tool to use on a new shotgun when you bring it home from the store?

[TrapperReady]

What?

[N1150X]

I don't ever modify a gun until I have shot it at least once

[Virginian]

Since absolutely not wasn't a choice, I voted no.

[Snarlingiron]

Please enlighten me...pray tell what you would use a bench grinder for on a shotgun?

I have one, but I can't think of ever using it for anything on a shotgun.

Ok, after a LOT of thought, I have used it for shortening a screw that was too long. It was a replacement for a missing one.

About as close as I have ever come is a belt sander that I use to grind recoil pads.

[Hawk]

If I hadn't just replied to that other thread I would have less than no clue what you're talking about.

If you have to touch it with a grinder you have quite thoroughly blown any savings you have somehow convinced yourself you've realized. Unless, of course, you value your labor at zero.

Nothing wrong with that

Some people want shotguns, some people want fix-er-upper hobbies. I've been known to go out of my way to enjoy fix-er-upper hobbies so I'm in no position to be throwing stones - my glass house might suffer thereby.

But, no.
No grinders on shotguns, no dremels on handguns, etc.

Adapting, to take an example at random, a 250.00 Surefire to a 180.00 shotgun makes about as much sense as adapting an 8,000.00 set of "spinners" to a grocery cart - if it turns you on, great. Some of us don't, and never will, see the sense in the enterprise. The "add on", to some of us curmudgeons, is grotesquely out of context with the base upon which it is being built.

But we will smile benignly on anyone engaging in the pastime.

[ArmedBear]

By way of explanation...

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=368858&page=2

Advice to someone who found that 870 pistol grips don't fit a Pardner Pump:
You should investigate to see why things won't fit. In your case the pistol grip didn't fit well because the receiver stud on the Pardner Pump is a little longer than the one on a 870. You will need to screw the receiver stud out with wrench and use a grinder to take it down about 1/6". Then the pistol grip or any stock will fit flush with the receiver.

Reply:
When people talk about the versatility of the 870, it means that they can use the same gun for HD, duck hunting, slug hunting, and trap, using a pile off-the-shelf parts that take a few seconds to change out, without the use of a bench grinder.

Reply to Reply:
I wouldn't say taking a little metal off as anything out the the ordinary. Many new 870 & Pardner Pump shotguns need a little metal removed to slick the action up or make things fit well.

[MAX100]

What ArmedBear is talking about is a receiver stud. They only cost $5 retail from Brownells. Sorry I don't see taking a little metal off of a receiver stud with a grinder or file a big deal.

ArmedBear is on a mission I believe he must feel he has been defaced.


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[rbernie]

I prefer to buy firearms that require no fluffing, buffing, or grinding. Such attentions may be fine for range toys, but I'd just as soon have tools that work as designed out-of-the-box.

[ArmedBear]

he must feel he has been defaced.

"Defaced?" Huh?

I'm not on a mission, so much as having fun.

Back to the subject at hand, you wrote it's not unusual to grind on a new 870 for various reasons, not just to adapt a new grip. I think it's quite unusual.

[MAX100]

Back to the subject at hand, you wrote it's not unusual to grind on a new 870 for various reasons, not just to adapt a new grip. I think it's quite unusual.



I was talking about slicking the actions up on a 870 or Pardner Pump by removing a little metal with a fine file and sandpaper, not a grinder. A grinder was only used to take down the receiver stud about 1/6" to make a 870 Mesa stock adapter fit flush to the receiver on a Pardner Pump. The milling machine wasn't needed for such a small job. Afterwards it was an excellent fit considering it was not made for that shotgun.

You have seen some of my products and they are top quality. Tactical oversize bolt handle for the Mossberg 930 SPX and a +3 (7+1) tube extension for a 18.5" bbl 870 that fits flush with the muzzle. Most that have owned 870's for years don't even know that a 18.5" bbl 870 has a 7+1 capacity capability with the right tube extension.

If anyone else wants to see those products here are the links:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=368858&page=3

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=369163


ArmedBear Don't take things so personal.

He gets his feelings hurt and starts a Poll on a topic that makes no sense and waste everyones time. This Poll is about should you use a grinder on a receiver stud a $5 part retail and $3.80 wholesale.

Who cares!




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[MAX100]

Dave is going to see this and wonder what has been going on while he has been away. He is going to think we need a spanking.


All of this over a Chinese made shotgun. Why would anyone care.



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[Rupestris]

I've been known to go out of my way to enjoy fix-er-upper hobbies

fix-er-up hobbies are fine. I do the same with old knives and enjoy it.

Because of the condition of some knives I've picked up, I'm a firm believer that there should be a written test, qualification by demonstrated proficiency, and a license before you can buy a bench grinder. :evil:

In the wrong hands, the damage done can be irreparable.

Because shotguns usually aren't hardened to the upper end of the RC scale, a file or sandpaper by hand will work surprisingly quick. A bench grinder can take too much off very quickly and create excessive heat. As you know, excessive heat can wreck a tools heat treat/hardness.

I got no problem with you taking your shotgun to the grinder. Just take your time, be careful, and, if your grinder is a variable speed, use it at the lowest possible speed and watch the heat.

HTH,

Chris

[md7]

i like my shotguns(and all firearms) stock and buy according to my needs. the only changing i would do on my own shotguns would be replacing worn or broken parts if needed.

bench grinding, dremeling, or going all out with mods just aint for me.

YMMV.

[ArmedBear]

MAX, you don't know me, but I assure you, I hardly could have my feelings hurt that way.:rolleyes:

FYI "deface" means "vandalize".

[Robert Hairless]

I'm surprised by you, ArmedBear. "Vandalize" means customizing a van. People laugh in deface of danger.

[MAX100]

Anyone can see by the products I make that I am no Hobbyist.


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[ArmedBear]

LOL Robert Hairless

Defeat of deduct went over defense before detail.

http://www.photoforum.ru/f/photo.th/000/272/272024_98.th.jpg

[GreenFurniture]

I would say yes, and then follow the grinder with a good, trusty hammer.

[MAX100]

LOL Me

The Defeated Deduct on Defense always hides Detail.

Sorry I don't have a picture but you get the picture.



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[Robert Hairless]

Some goodnatured joshing isn't amiss.

On the other hand it's good to be alert. America needs more lerts.

[Brian Dale]

Advice to someone who found that 870 pistol grips don't fit a Pardner Pump:The universe is telling you not to bolt extra crap onto your gun. Make sure that it fits, then shoot it bone stock.

In response to ArmedBear's original post: a bench grinder??? :what:

{ My favorite fire instructor's voice }

Not "no," but "Hell, No!"

{/ My favorite fire instructor's voice }


Edited to add:
I'd expect that Bubba's sense of style would prompt him to use a hand-held angle grinder instead of a bench grinder for the task you've described. Look at the ergonomics: an angle grinder is much more Dremelesque.

[mossberg]

[ Seinfeld] Nothing wrong with that [/Seinfeld]

It's: "Not that there's anything wrong with that".

Nice to see another fan though!:D