mosin m44 recoil


June 18, 2008, 08:06 PM
how is the recoil on a mosin m44 compared to a 30-06

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Deer Hunter
June 18, 2008, 08:07 PM
What are you shooting the 30-06 out of?

Plastic butt hunting rifle? They are about equal.

June 18, 2008, 08:08 PM
i say more
but that's ergos, not brute force.
most 30-06 are built for comfort.

others will say it's all in your head.

June 18, 2008, 08:09 PM
i have a m70 from the 60's with no recoil pad this is what i was wanting to compare to

June 18, 2008, 08:11 PM
A M44 with steel buttplate and poor ergonomics kicks like strong bool!

I suggest Czech/Polish/Romy 147gr 'light ball' silvertip with a slip-on leather or rubber recoil pad for more Mosin trigger time

June 18, 2008, 09:23 PM
The 54R round shouldn't kick as much as it does. Yet when placed in a non-pistol gripped rifle the recoil is exagerrated (sp) quite a bit. Compared to a 30-06 it will be around the same considering the 30-06 is your average type 700 rifle. There shouldn't be a difference large enough for you to tell.

June 18, 2008, 09:30 PM
Honestly, I think the 7.62x54R's recoil is greatly exaggerated. As long as you utilize proper form, the recoil is really quite manageable--even off a bench.

That said, I'm going to say that it probably kicks slightly less than a .30-06.

June 18, 2008, 09:36 PM
If I'm suffering from a stuffy nose I'll take my M44 out and it will knock the snot right out of me.

June 18, 2008, 10:09 PM
An m44 should kick less than your average 30-06. The ballistics back up that statement, and most 30-06 rifles weigh less than a mosin.

The main reasons the recoil might bother you is the steel butt plate, poor ergonomics, and the noise will get to you.

June 18, 2008, 10:25 PM
I think the M44 recoil is WAY overrated. Yes, the ergos aren't the greatest, but it's not that bad.

My Savage 110 in .30-06 kicks worse, but it has a plastic stock and is very light.

Danus ex
June 18, 2008, 11:00 PM
It's about the same as any other military rifle and round of the era. Remember, military arms were made to be shot by human beings. Put recoil out of your mind and concentrate on form, sight picture, and trigger control.

June 18, 2008, 11:01 PM
My Remington 700 in 270 kicks about as hard as the M44.

June 18, 2008, 11:06 PM
I suggest Czech/Polish/Romy 147gr 'light ball' silvertip with a slip-on leather or rubber recoil pad

I second that! I wimped out and got a nice slip-on recoil pad and now my Mosins are a pleasure to shoot. :o

June 18, 2008, 11:10 PM
54R is about the same as a .308 and (a little) less than a 30-06

June 19, 2008, 09:50 AM
Mosin N. and recoil are synonymous. You just learn to adjust.
After an Appleseed, my arm was bruised bad, but that was because I was learning new positions (seated) and the rifle kept slipping off when I'd shoot. It is a fun gun!

"Since Ron Paul is out, guess I am voting for either Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin."

June 19, 2008, 10:12 AM
I shoot my M44 off the bench all the time. I did add a Pachmayer slip on recoil pad which greatly helps.
I'd say it kick more than a 308 just due to the shape of the rifle and the shorter barrel. But it's tolerable. When I start to think it has a recoil I just switch to my Yugo M24/47 and pop off 5-10 rounds of 8mm. Then the M44 suddenly doesn't feel so bad.

June 19, 2008, 10:21 AM
The M39 Finnish Mosin is a pleasure to shoot. Only girls think it kicks too hard. That steel buttplate isn't designed for comfort, it's designed to survive many decades without maintenance.

Mine is 65 years old and I could use the stock as a baseball bat.

Zouave Rifle
June 19, 2008, 10:33 AM
Not bad at all. My Savage 110 bruises my arm after 20 shots, but I can shoot the T-53 for more like 50 shots before I want to set it down and take a rest.

June 19, 2008, 10:52 AM
On a scale from hardest kick to less, here's my rating FWIW

Browning 30-06...................****
Remington 7 in 308................***
M44 Mosin Nagant...................**
Mosin 91/30.............................*

Recoil is greatly exaggerated for the 44 in large part due to the Noise factor. Nothing more, nothing less.


June 19, 2008, 12:19 PM
My M-44 is more of a "Thumper" than my Mossberg ATR-100 .30-06

After adding on the <$10 recoil pad on the M-44, they are about equal in terms of felt recoil to me.

June 19, 2008, 02:58 PM
Shoot the lighter weight slugs and it's not bad. The heavier bullets will let it come back to see you a little bit harder. A slip on recoil pad isn't a bad idea either, especially when shooting off a bench.

June 19, 2008, 03:40 PM
Recoil is greatly exaggerated for the 44 in large part due to the Noise factor. Nothing more, nothing less.

Well, the huge fireball helps a little too :D

In terms of simple felt recoil, it's definitely less than most .30-06 rifles I've fired, but you definitely feel that sound concussion.

June 20, 2008, 12:35 AM
I went 70 rounds in one session with my 91/30 once. Towards the end I was afraid I was going to break bones or something.

Then I went out and got one of those Past shoulder pads. Have yet to try it out though.

June 20, 2008, 01:10 AM
I'm with NC-Mike, it's much better.

Ignition Override
June 20, 2008, 02:28 AM
Don't know whether this helps, but my MN 44 with no pad feels like my brother's Lee Enfield (.303).

From my perspective, for the price of a hotel Coke, 10 rounds in my 44 cost about $1.80. Not bad? This was the common ammo which basic soldiers used to push the Wehrmacht from the Russian front, therefore for these superb rifle and ammo values, when I shoot it with the recoil pad (my previous guns were a .22 and M-1 carbine), it's not bad. Doing so I usually have no visible bruise (don't work out except running), and the M-1 Carbine left me with a visible purple bruise. Does that help? The only cheaper ammo for me is .22.

You might want to make a purchase decision soon, if possible. All of my x54R ammo ( four cans) came from "", and for the last two days or more their Bulgarian HB 300-round cans were sold out. Have not noticed this before, and followed them once or twice each week since December.
A bit higher at Ammoman, but they are very good people and shipping is included in the price.

This is the recoil of really surprising value, while it lasts. Almost all 8mm Mauser and LE ammo costs too much for me to pursue such a rifle, although Samco now advertises 7 mm Mauser ammo for about $180/1,000 rds., which makes me curious as to why the price is so low.

June 20, 2008, 05:45 AM
I don't own an M44, but I can reload 30-06 to nudge like
a pussycat or kick like a mule.

June 20, 2008, 09:16 AM
I have my M-N in the ATI stock...I can shoot it all day...

June 20, 2008, 09:21 AM
I read elsewhere that the ATI stocks really help the recoil a lot.


June 20, 2008, 09:32 AM
I can't imagine what the LE Jungle Carbine feels like. IT is supposed to have a mean kick.

Recoil is MUCH less in the Jungle Carbine than in any Mosin Nagant.

June 20, 2008, 04:41 PM
The synthetic ATI stock recoil pad works very well indeed!

ATI synthetic stock= $59.95

Pachmayr slip-on rubber recoil pad= $18.95

whatever trips yer trigger :cool:

June 20, 2008, 04:53 PM
I don't know why people say the MN recoils so bad. I can shoot heavy ball for 2 hours with no ill effects. (not trying to sound macho) If it bothers you just get a slip on pad, they are already ugly as all get out.

June 20, 2008, 05:48 PM

June 22, 2008, 12:19 AM
I tried out my Past sissy pad today.

Oh man, it makes shooting my Mosin wonderful.

I felt kinda goofy wearing it but I have full use of my right arm tonight, so it's worth it. :)

June 22, 2008, 01:33 AM
My g/f shoots the M44 with no problems and she is a powder puff.

June 22, 2008, 05:18 AM
My Mosin M44....not as bad as my Steyr M95.

June 22, 2008, 06:34 AM
To me a Mosin M44 kicks less than the longer version 91/30. Mosins are not enjoyable to shoot benchresting too much but are better suited to shooting standing up. Make sure that the pocket of your shoulder is square to the buttplate and firm against it. The boom from a 44 makes it seem a bigger kicker. BTW the last M44 I shot was hitting clay pidgeons at 100 yards in the standing (unbelieveable I know) I shot one and the other guy shot two in a row for what it's worth.

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