OoS Carry permit in MA


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Rmeju
June 19, 2008, 07:42 PM
It seems that from what I've read, out of staters with CCW's from their home states can get 1 year CCW's from the issuing authority in MA. Is this correct? Anyone do this?

By "can" I do not mean legally allowed to apply. By "can" I mean can reasonably expect to be issued.

By CCW, I do not mean the license that allows simple possession regardless of standard vs. low cap firearms. I mean the one that lets you walk around carrying a loaded, concealed hangun in a holster on your person as you go about your day.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Reid

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Solo Flyer
June 19, 2008, 08:09 PM
Delete, read ME instead of MA.

BillS
June 19, 2008, 08:12 PM
Yes you can get a nonresident permit in Mass. The cost is $100 for one year and you must apply directly to the Colonel of the State Police. You can get more info on the Mass. Stat Website,

Rmeju
June 19, 2008, 09:53 PM
Let's try again.

I'm not at all interested in the procedure for application. That I can find out for myself.

I want to know whether or not I can expect to have it issued, denied, or will it completely hinge on my 'good cause'.

Reid

Solo Flyer
June 19, 2008, 10:01 PM
Rmeju,here is more information.
It does not look that promising but is perhaps worth following up.
This website,handgunlaw,feels you can get the permit.

Massachusetts (Can be obtained by mail)
NonResidents:
Contact the "Firearms Record Bureau" at (617)6604780
to request and application for a "Temporary
NonResident
LTC"

If you obtain a permit to carry in your home state you can get one in Massachusetts. The Non resident
permit is only valid for 1 year and there is a lot of paperwork. Contact them at the number above and tell
them you wish to apply for a Non Resident Permit. They will send you everything you need.
A new rule has gone into effect. First time NonResident
Applicants must have a training class from a
certified Massachusetts Firearms Instructor. There are some in surrounding states. The Firearms Record
Bureau has not posted a list of certified trainers and has so far not posted on their site that you must have
training from a Massachusetts Certified Instructor. Application fees are not refundable and they will keep
your money. Contact Jesse Perrin at The Mass State Police 508.820.2209 or Larry Coates Director of
Operational Compliance Office 615.240.4468 for more information on MA Certified Instructors.

Good luck.

Bennett Prescott
June 19, 2008, 10:25 PM
Reid,

I'm going through it right now. We're in round two, they didn't like my original (NRA) certification course, so I'm going to take another ($500!) one from SIGARMS academy that they DO honor. Then I'll resubmit the paperwork and see how my luck goes.

Annoying, but I need to be in MA frequently, so I'll fight for it. Thing's 4,000% more expensive than my home state permit :fire:

Hoppy590
June 19, 2008, 10:27 PM
its at the state polices discretion. you need to take a class here. wether you can carry is entirely arbitrary and depending on what the Colonel decides

that said i hear they are MUCH easier than most towns.
you could get a Class B, Class A, Class A restricted, or any combination of Carry, and nonhicap/Standard cap. ( if its designed to run 14 rounds, thats standard capacity to me)

Bennett Prescott, you shoulda just asked, i coulda told you locations at both ends of the state that offer MA LTC courses for 100-150$

Rmeju
June 19, 2008, 11:35 PM
Thanks guys. I heard about the MA honored training requirement. There's a decent possibility I'd go to law school out here so I was wondering. I actually happen to be in-state right now on business...I wonder if there isn't a class this weekend

Anyway, Hoppy, can I take it to mean by your comments that as a resident you must apply to your own jurisdiction (county sherriff or local PD), most of which don't issue, but as an out of stater you apply to the MSP who are a lot looser with their issuance policies?

I seem to recall once upon a time stumbling across a color coded map of MA by county issuance policies (red/yellow/green) representing how likely you were to get a permit in a particular location if you were a resident. Sadly, this was when I never thought I'd be here. Do you know of a link to such a thing? Any link to info of MSP issuance policies or "standards" they use for determining if good cause statements pass muster?

Lastly, any info on the approved trainers would be great!

Honestly, I don't much care about the hi-cap as a practical matter (politically it's another story...) since I carry a 1911 Government model, so I'm running 8 round mags anyway. Other guns I could just leave out of state.

Thanks again!

Reid

Hoppy590
June 20, 2008, 12:10 AM
Anyway, Hoppy, can I take it to mean by your comments that as a resident you must apply to your own jurisdiction (county sherriff or local PD), most of which don't issue, but as an out of stater you apply to the MSP who are a lot looser with their issuance policies?

yes we apply to the local chief of police. some dont care. my town issued me a Class A with no problems. 2 of the friends from other towns could only get class b restricted to target and hunting.

i too have seen that map, though i cant find it right now.

as for courses, i know of a few at both ends of the state. where abouts are you now?

if in WMA ( Springfield area) contact
AAA GUNS
738 Main Street
West Springfield, Massachusetts
413-731-7666

Smith and Wesson Shooting Sports Center
Smith & Wesson Academy
299 Page Boulevard
Springfield, MA 01104
Phone: (413) 846-6400
Fax: (413) 736-0776
E-mail:shootingsports@smith-wesson.com
http://shootingsports.smith-wesson.com/advance/yourskill.html

if your out by Boston/ Southshore
ARCHER ARMS CO. • CARVER SQ. MARKETPLACE, BLDG 2, UNIT E (RT 58)
128 MAIN ST
CARVER, MA 02330
1-508-866-5668


call up and ask for when they run classes. many time the website or schedule will say some date, but if they get enough people they hold another course

theres many more places that have courses, but cant think of em off the top of my head

AntiqueCollector
June 20, 2008, 02:11 PM
I wasn't aware of that new rule on training. Previously, I've heard from some people I know who got them that the non-resident carry licenses were basically almost shall issue, they had no trouble getting them. Perhaps that has changed, it is MA after all. I just avoid going to MA myself, but if you need to be there frequently, it may be worth trying.

Bennett Prescott
June 20, 2008, 03:50 PM
Hey Hoppy, thanks for the info. I'm actually not SO bitter, I wanted to take the SIGARMS class anyway as it's for "advanced CCW techniques"... always looking to be a little better. I may pop over to the S&W course in MA on the 29th since it's only $100 and then my MA permit can go ahead.

mp510
June 21, 2008, 03:52 AM
I wasn't aware of that new rule on training. Previously, I've heard from some people I know who got them that the non-resident carry licenses were basically almost shall issue, they had no trouble getting them. Perhaps that has changed, it is MA after all.

A couple weeks ago, somebody at a local gunshop mentioned that they had just got a Mass non-res A LTC, but it took them 3 attempts to get it.:eek: I don't know the details, so I don't know the circumstances.

Devonai
June 21, 2008, 04:08 AM
I got mine without a fuss, but I was a resident of Beverly with a Class A LTC for six years prior to that, so I imagine that helped grease the gears. I have since let it expire, and I'm not so confident about a cold renewal.

scurtis_34471
June 21, 2008, 08:54 PM
Delete, read ME instead of MA.

No. Maine issues non-resident licenses good for 4 years and the application fee is only $60. I'm in the process of getting one now, because I have a lot of family there and spend time there almost every year.

Solo Flyer
June 21, 2008, 09:35 PM
I know Scurtis,Maine is cool.
But I had printed out the Maine app info when I suddenly realized the OP wanted info on Massacusetts
It was then I went back and deleted to not confuse the issue.

scurtis_34471
June 21, 2008, 11:26 PM
Oh. I get it. My bad.

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