How is Atlantic Firearms?


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Golden Hound
June 20, 2008, 06:56 AM
There's always an "HK91" (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=102774195) clone on Gunbroker from Atlantic Firearms, going for about a thousand. How are these rifles? How are the guns from that company in general? It looks nice, at any rate. Has anyone had any experience with one? The HK91 in particular, but any input is welcomed.

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Atlantic Firearms
June 20, 2008, 07:06 AM
We carry the PTR 91 line of HK 91 Style rifles, we have sold them for about 6 years and no complaints , I am sure other members here have had experience with them to they are very accurate .

Golden Hound
June 20, 2008, 07:14 AM
Wow! You're actually a member here. That's great. Thanks for the reply! Waiting to hear from others..

Ash
June 20, 2008, 08:12 AM
I have bought a VZ-58 and a PSL through them in the past. Service was good and the items arrived in a timely fashion.

Ash

Golden Hound
June 20, 2008, 08:19 AM
How do their rifles perform?

Ash
June 20, 2008, 08:33 AM
Well, remember, Atlantic is a distributor. Most, if not all, of their products are assembled by others. The PSL was Romanian and imported by Tennessee Guns (not assembled by, but imported by). The VZ-58 was one of the D-Tech or some such names. They both handle well and shoot well, though the PSL (FPK according to TG) does not have as good a trigger as my Century. I think that has to do with the placement of the hammer pin. The Century PSL has a pretty decent two-stage whereas the TG has a fairly gritty one stage that is pretty long.

Yet, that has nothing to do with Atlantic and probably nothing to do with TG, merely a single specimen.

In any case, like AIM and others, it is Atlantic's handling of their products that is at play. Everybody can sell a lemon (the FPK above is not a lemon and I am satisfied with it), its how they deal with the lemon that defines them.

Ash

everallm
June 20, 2008, 08:34 AM
Active thread about the PTR91,pro's and cons

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=371581

Golden Hound
June 20, 2008, 09:12 AM
Hmmmm...tough dilemma...

I think the PTR91 looks cooler, and the price is better. On the other hand the FAL seems to get the edge in that thread. I may be leaning a little more towards the FAL because it was the standard arm of the Rhodesian Grey's Scouts. It might be harder to find one at a good price though, and at least Atlantic seems to have consistent availability. Hmmm...

SimpleIsGood229
June 20, 2008, 04:48 PM
Have you handled the CETME/G3/PTR91 or the FAL? Handling prior to purchase is highly recommended--with any firearm, really.

HM2PAC
June 20, 2008, 07:32 PM
I bought my PTR-91 through Atlantic about 5 years ago. They were quick, courteous, and informative. I'd buy from them in a heartbeat.

PTK
June 20, 2008, 07:36 PM
If you think you might ever put a silencer on it, avoid the '91. If not, no issue there. :)

HM2PAC
June 20, 2008, 07:54 PM
PTK wrote:
If you think you might ever put a silencer on it, avoid the '91. If not, no issue there.

What is the issue? The barrel is threaded. I would imagine a suppressor would thread right on.

PTK
June 20, 2008, 08:12 PM
It would, but the backpressure plus a fluted chamber = bad idea. :)

Kindrox
June 20, 2008, 10:31 PM
I have not purchased from Atlantic but accross many gun boards they have a a very good reputation. I would not hesitate to buy from them.

rangerruck
June 21, 2008, 12:36 AM
i have a dealer friend who has gotten some items from them, and has had nothing but good things to say about them.

gp911
June 21, 2008, 03:15 PM
PTK makes a good point. The fluted chamber already flutes the brass, imagine upping that pressure a good bit and I could see an overpressure situation occurring. Of course now is when someone with a suppressed PTR91 will note they've had no problems, but until then, in theory... :D

gp911

gtmerkley
July 3, 2008, 03:49 AM
Atlantic Firearms Any chance you could start Stocking Calico firearms they are of good blood and are fine guns to shoot. I would highly Enjoy seeing these on your online store and think they would make a great addition to it.

buck00
July 3, 2008, 12:08 PM
In any case, like AIM and others, it is Atlantic's handling of their products that is at play.

I had a really good experience with Atlantic Firearms. I got my RPK-74 from them.

If there is any issue with the rifle, Blaine will make it right. That is something you can't always count on with other retailers.

Plus he usually offers a THR discount, which shows good support of this forum. :)

alaskanativeson
July 3, 2008, 01:58 PM
As a dealership, Atlantic Arms is damned hard to beat. They're gun guys, they know what they're doing, and they're in business to stay. I'd highly recommend doing business with them to anyone.

As for the rifle discussion, throw me into the FAL group. I owned an original HK91 A2. It was a reliably functioning gun that had decent accuracy for an MBR but the action didn't appeal to me as much as the FAL does. I'd certainly never try to reload any ammo after using it in the HK.

The FAL is a sweetheart of a gun. Between it and my AR-10 I'd have a hell of a decision. Take a look at DSA (http://www.dsarms.com/departments.asp?dept=8) for a top of the line FAL being made today or Entreprise (http://www.entreprise.com/RiflesSTG58C.htm) (note the weird spelling of Entreprise) for a good FAL at about half the price of the DSA.

RP88
July 3, 2008, 02:31 PM
much like someone has said, I'm more concerned about the bad customer service at my local FFL than I am with Atlantic. Blaine or someone will promptly return calls and e-mails within a day if not an hour or two. My FFL store? Heh. I'm lucky if they even pick the damn phone up. I'll give a more thorough opinion once the converted Saiga I ordered comes in. They're real cool about orders on out-of-stock items.

buck00
July 3, 2008, 08:43 PM
My FFL store? Heh. I'm lucky if they even pick the damn phone up.

And you're still dealing with this local Bubba Gump for what reason? :confused:

Unless its a $9 FFL fee or something, I'd find a new FFL ASAP.

krolden
July 4, 2008, 12:03 AM
I was going to order a M1 Garand from Atlantic Firearms but they never answered the phone...just an answering machine. Ended up getting a Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail from a local dealer instead.

RP88
July 4, 2008, 12:16 AM
And you're still dealing with this local Bubba Gump for what reason?

Unless its a $9 FFL fee or something, I'd find a new FFL ASAP.

they're close, I save 20 bucks a transfer, they have the only good range near me, and they are generally friendly, even if they take forever to help someone. If they were ***holes, then I would have found one awhile ago.

Atlantic Firearms
July 6, 2008, 04:46 PM
krolden , we do not have a large staff of phone attendants and can not get to every call that comes through, you are always welcome to leave a message and we will be glad to call you back, we get about 150 calls per day , retrun about 40 messages and also get about 250 emails , we do our best to email & answer as many calls as possible but some days it is almost impossible . Please mention that you are a member of the HR we like to support ther members here and extend discounts etc.

Z-Michigan
July 6, 2008, 08:09 PM
I emailed Atlantic Firearms late evening a week ago Sunday - had a reply from them by about 9am Monday. Very quick! So far so good. My saiga will be arriving at my FFL sometime this week so I could say a bit more then, but assuming it's a NIB Saiga like it's supposed to be (and I'll be really surprised if isn't), that's pretty much all of Atlantic's responsibility.

Atlantic Firearms
July 6, 2008, 08:26 PM
FYI , if there is a legitimate issue with a product we ship , we would have no problem replacing the product or refunding the order and we will also pay return ship . We are gun guys here and know what it is like to get gun that is new but does not work the way it should and try to make the return process as painless as possible if it should arise .

whyipackmy45
July 8, 2008, 06:12 PM
They shipped my PSL yesterday. Hopefully I will receive it this week.

I already purchased 700 rounds of light ball 148-150 grain 7.62x54 to break it in :)

Daryl Licht
July 8, 2008, 08:32 PM
I recently ordered a AK from Atlantic. The order was faxed to them by my FFL late in the day, the gun was shipped the following day.

Have to say here that I cannot pick up the rifle until this Friday, but thus far I have to commend Atlantic for ease of ordering and prompt shipping. This one was my first internet firearm purchase and they've made it pretty easy...

Just hope the SSR85 Poly is as nice as I anticipate.

Tully M. Pick
July 8, 2008, 08:39 PM
I've ordered several guns from Atlantic, and will order from them again in the future. Good guys, and have never fed me a line of BS regarding delivery dates. Everything has come in on time, including a DSA FAL I ordered through them.

FEG
July 9, 2008, 10:41 AM
I thought that I had responded on this thread already.

My first AKM was a SAR-1 from Atlantic. I called them before ordering to discuss canted sights. Atlantic verbally guaranteed me a straight rifle and put together an accessories package for me (mostly discounted extra magazines) for a few bucks extra. Everything was in excellent condition as advertised. IIRC, the turnaround time was very fast, also. This was in 2000.

whyipackmy45
August 19, 2008, 08:44 PM
Update on my Atlantic purchase:

My rifle shipped with zero mags. There were supposed to be three.

I emailed them and it didn't sound like they were going to fix the problem, but then about a week later a box with two mags arrived at my house. So I am still short one mag, but I am glad they believed me enough to partially correct the problem.

Part of my PSO mil surplus scope was badly rusted, so I had to soak it for a few hours and hit it with a hammer to free the nut that holds the scope on the side rail. Once I got that free, I lubricated it and it works fine.

About the rifle: Nice quality and very accurate. I was worried about the quality of a Romanian rifle, especially when I was paying $800. It shoots great though.

Overall, I recommend them and I would buy from them again.

RP88
August 19, 2008, 09:10 PM
hey, this thread is back...

my new input:

I got my converted Saiga from them. I'm mostly happy with it. The only drawback to mine is the lack of a bullet guide, which I can fix myself.

but despite that, Atlantic offers good, quick service, so A+ to them for that. But, I'd say that they should drop Tennessee Gun from their distribution line-up for the time being when it comes to the conversions. I could have avoided that and did it myself instead of being too afraid to try, but overall what I got shoots great and looks great.

Z-Michigan
August 19, 2008, 09:34 PM
So, this thread goes zombie...

I got my Saiga from them on time. It was a stock Saiga (not the conversions they also sell), and was 100% NIB and as promised. No issues at all. I would not hesitate to buy from them again.

Now, since I know they're reading this, I would like it if they put some more detail in the description of each item... especially with the AKs listed, it's often hard to tell who made it, and exactly what you're getting. I'd especially like it to be listed if the US parts count on all the foreign-type guns is high enough that foreign mags can be used without 922(r) issues. I assume that's the case, but I'd like to know for sure.

camslam
August 20, 2008, 12:41 AM
I purchased a Lancaster AK from them about a month ago and it was great working with them.

The rifle was shipped quickly, no problems with the ordering, and they were quick to answer a couple of emails that I had sent regarding my order status and questions about the gun.

If the need arises for another purchase, I would happily order from Atlantic again.

By the way, my Lancaster is a thing of beauty. Accurate, no problems after 500+ rounds, and very well put together.

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