What was the biggest surprise you've ever had when you pulled the trigger?
Mark IV Series 80
August 24, 2003, 09:44 PM
Was it a "CLICK" instead of a "BANG"?
Was it a "BANG" instead of a "CLICK"?
Was it a .357 Magnum instead of a .38 Special?
Did your gun come apart due to an overchage?
What was your biggest surprise?
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Edward429451
August 24, 2003, 10:01 PM
That would be the day 20 some years ago that I learned not to trust mechanical safeties on guns. I learned it well cause that lesson came empasised with a hole in the hand. Luckily it was a 25acp instead of something bigger.
Somehow I see a AD/ND thread here.:(
rugerfreak
August 24, 2003, 10:12 PM
Not a handgun----but biggest surprise
I was 14 at the time using a cheap Spanish 12ga SxS-----pulled the trigger on a bunny -----both barrels go off----barrel #2 contained a 3in mag---was waterfowling that day too.
YIKES!!!
P95Carry
August 24, 2003, 10:16 PM
Hmmm .... not so much surprise as ... disappointment. During a compo ...... it was ''phutt!'' ....... primer only ... bullet lodged in barrel of 686 ...... no follow up shot I'm glad to say so barrel not ruined .... but withdrew from compo to go shove out bullet!!
True surprise tho? ...... maybe the time I experimented with 3 1/2 drams of BP in my Enfield 2 band musketoon .... permissible but my usual load behind ounc- plus minnie (.577 cal) was 2 1/2 ...... the surprise was registered as OUCH!! Damned recoil and impact on my right maxillary bone!!:D
Sisco
August 24, 2003, 10:17 PM
Bang instead of Click.
Fourteen, Dad's 9mm. Blew a hole through Mom & Dad's bedroom.
Don't let anyone tell you 9mm ball ammo won't penetrate.
Learned a lesson the hard way about checking to be sure a weapon is cleared.
natedog
August 24, 2003, 10:26 PM
I was surprised how little my Marlin 795 .22LR recoiled. I was in pain over a 10 gauge coach gun.
HeavyHaul
August 24, 2003, 10:33 PM
Another "BANG" instead of "click". I was 16 and had Dad's 357 S&W. Pointed it at the fish tank, (150 gal) and pulled the trigger. Expensive lesson on making sure it's unloaded, and never point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy. What a mess. I think I'm supposed to be still grounded for that one.:D
clubsoda22
August 24, 2003, 10:35 PM
Did the fish live?
BenW
August 24, 2003, 10:40 PM
Shooting the ex-brother-in-law's COP gun (a four barreled, .357mag derringer) about 20 years ago. Due to a malfunction two of the barrels fired at once. Ouch.
Preacherman
August 24, 2003, 11:03 PM
This was my biggest surprise... :D I originally posted this in this thread (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=145032) on our predecessor forum, The Firing Line. The title of this thread was enough to make me remember it - and the pain...
My "coolest" (and most painful!) shooting experience was with a 4-bore muzzle-loading flint-lock elephant gun! This thing was made sometime in the middle third of the 19th century, IIRC. The soft lead ball weighed a full 4 ounces, and was powered by a powder charge measured in drachms rather than grains! The idiot - er, sorry, venerable old gentleman - who owns this beast offered me the chance to shoot it, and like a fool I accepted! He loaded it up, sat down in his rocker on the porch, and asked me to stand next to an oak tree in his front garden and fire at a target he had set up on a tree stump about 30 yards away. Unfortunately, I didn't look behind me before firing... next thing I remember was going base-over-tip into his cactus garden, to the sound of his triumphant cackling from the porch!
After digging myself out of the cactus garden (and digging the thorns out of my backside and sundry other portions of anatomy), I did some calculation of the recoil impulse of this beast (all the while rubbing my very sore shoulder, which still recalls the impact in rainy weather!). Turns out the recoil momentum is something over 220 foot-pounds, or somewhere between 7 and 8 times that of a typical .30-06! I've fired .577 and .600 Nitro Express rifles since then, but nothing has ever come close to that kick!
(If any of you ever plan to go hunting in South Africa, and will find yourselves in the vicinity of the town of George in the southern Cape, please contact me before you leave - I'll give you a letter of introduction to the owner of the beast, and invite you to have a go with it. He needs his light entertainment, after all!)
Kamicosmos
August 24, 2003, 11:16 PM
My first handgun, Redhawk .44 mag. Take it to the range, first shot fired out of a handgun.
And I wasn't wearing my muffs. Whoops. The recoil wasn't the surprise, let me tell you!
tatters
August 24, 2003, 11:27 PM
No earplugs hunting with a .22 mag handgun.
Shot at a groundhog with my Heritage Rough Rider, thought I would try the Mag cylinder first.
Holy cow!!!!!!! That was loud!
Lancel
August 24, 2003, 11:46 PM
Some years ago... the instructions to a Philadelphia Derringer said that at half cock the hammer won't fall even if you pull the trigger. To test that with the gun empty and on half-cock, I tried to pull the trigger. The sear broke.:(
Larry
tbeb
August 24, 2003, 11:54 PM
I'd have to say it was when I fired some .357 magnum reloads that used Hercules Blue Dot powder. The muzzle flash was awesome.
10-Ring
August 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
The *KABOOM!!* :what: That I experienced a couple years ago!!....not good!
Shane
August 25, 2003, 12:54 AM
When I was a young kid, my uncle and cousins took me out to shoot the first time. The gun they started me out on was a 10 gauge shotgun. Without telling me that it would recoil a lot or warning me to hold on tightly (remember, I was a young kid then and knew nothing about guns), they had me fire it. Needless to say, I remember that thing killing my shoulder and pushing me back somewhat--quite a surprise the first time I pulled the trigger. They got a big laugh out of it (I found out later that they have done this prank often), and I was annoyed and had a painful shoulder.
I'd never do such a silly and IMO mean spirited prank to a new shooter, I always train new shooters with a .22 and work up.
Thrash1982
August 25, 2003, 01:04 AM
My stupidest moment so far was the time I accidently forgot to put my ears on when shooting my Beretta 96. Certainly rang my bell.
WonderNine
August 25, 2003, 02:08 AM
Shooting the ex-brother-in-law's COP gun (a four barreled, .357mag derringer) about 20 years ago. Due to a malfunction two of the barrels fired at once. Ouch.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Probably when I shot my .41 magnum snubnose without earplugs :uhoh:
Didn't have any with me, but I wanted to make sure the gun worked.
tex_n_cal
August 25, 2003, 03:05 AM
I have had squibs, no kabooms, thankfully.
One ND - a ladyfriend left my Ruger 10/22 with a live round in the chamber, when she packed it up at the range one day. I took it out of the case at home, settled down to clean it, and bang! through a bookcase(didn't like it much anyway) and in the wall.
The cat disappeared for a couple days, and I scrapped the bookcase, otherwise no harm done.
Most surprising otherwise was when deer hunting in West Texas a few years ago, when the wind was really howling. In an elevated blind that was shaking, I lined up on a deer, only to see the crosshairs drop below his belly when the trigger broke on the .270 Ruger #1.
I disgustedly looked up expecting the deer to be hot footing it, and was astonished to see him flat on the ground. I jacked in another round, saw him start to raise his head, then fired once more, ending it. I couldn't believe I hadn't missed the first shot.
It turned out the first shot had not only gone low, but apparently due to wind drift had also gone wide - through both his knees on his rear legs. That was why he couldn't get up. I was irritated with my marksmanship, but at least he didn't get away to suffer a long time.
Moparmike
August 25, 2003, 04:43 AM
Same "I wanted to test my gun" story. I was testing my 8mm Mauser, (remember, I am a bit of a gun noob when it comes to using them) and pulled the trigger: BOOOMM!!!!! Quite a ringer. That shot also took down a tree of about 1" or so in diameter. Quite an experience.:what:
Wanderer
August 25, 2003, 08:24 AM
How little an 870 bucks with low-recoil tac. ammo. It's quite fun. And I'm 130-ish at the time.
JohnBT
August 25, 2003, 08:41 AM
I guess I'm not easily surprised.
Along about 1960 I took a fairly short head shot at a squirrel with a .22 WMR. Oops, the selector on the Savage 24 was set on .410. I picked as much shot as I could out of what was left and gave the squirrel to the dog.
On second thought, the biggest surprise was that I hit the first duck I ever took a shot at. Yes, it was in the air.
John
OF
August 25, 2003, 10:52 AM
When I pulled the trigger on my Glock 29 and had the 10mm case rupture. I had burning powder splash all over my face and become embedded into my hands wherever there was a gap in the frame: between the slide/frame, around the base of the magazine well, where the slide stop fits. I was picking little round bits of powder out of my hands.
If I hadn't been wearing eye protection I would have had the burning powder in my eyes for sure.
- Gabe
BenW
August 25, 2003, 11:07 AM
Wondernine -- I don't get the significance of multiple rolling eyes to my post. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
Edward429451
August 25, 2003, 11:32 AM
[QUOTE]Perhaps you could enlighten me.[/QUOTE
Why, that means you are a bold faced liar! I've seen that happen to a COP, and one or two others have stated they saw them pistols do the same thing. But since his COP hasn't ever done it, we all lie....;)
We went thru this awhile back and the thread was closed.
dshimm
August 25, 2003, 11:49 AM
I used to shoot at the Tucson Rod and Gun Club, which had 5 - 10 minute cease fires every 15 - 20 minutes to allow shooters to go downrange to change targets. During these times, I would routinely take off my earmuffs so that I could talk with others on the firing line.
One day I was shooting a 2" barrelled .357 mag, and forgot to replace my muffs. Needless to say, the gunshot was deafening, and my ears rang for days. What interested me was how fast my mind worked. As soon as I shot, I realized that there was something amiss, but didn't quite know what it was. In a fraction of a second, I first thought that I had double charged a cartridge and that the gun had exploded, but I quickly saw that the gun was intact and that I was neither bleeding nor hurting. In the next instant I realized that I was missing my muffs, and got them on in a hurry.
That unexpected unprotected .357 gunshot is the biggest surprise I've ever had.
Kharn
August 25, 2003, 03:37 PM
It wasnt on the trigger pull, but when I was preparing to fire the next round: the front sight on my MkII had canted from 12:00 to ~1:00 (barrel was loose in the reciever). :what:
Ruger's shipping me a new one as soon as my dealer's FFL gets there.
Kharn
BenW
August 25, 2003, 06:32 PM
We went thru this awhile back and the thread was closed.
Thanks for the heads up Edward -- missed that thread. I'll forego any smart-alecky responses to keep this thread from being locked.:)
Edward429451
August 25, 2003, 08:38 PM
:) I hope Wondernines Cop never ever doublefires on him so he can say he got one of the good ones. It IS a cool little pistol, and it does carry 4 three five sevens in it (!) and realistically speaking, in a defensive scenario, who cares if you shoot him twice at once? You'd be all hopped up on adrenaline anyway so as long as it didn't burst you'd be alright!! (Never heard of one bursting from a double fire.):D
firestar
August 25, 2003, 08:52 PM
How about no sound, not even a click when I expected a bang? I pulled my Kel-Tec P-32 out to shoot a mag at the range before I left (like I often do to make sure things are working) and nothing! The trigger axis had broken and I didn't even get a "click".
That gun would have gotten me killed if I had to use it in a life and death situation. I got rid of it and never looked back.
jsalcedo
August 25, 2003, 09:10 PM
Marlin camp 9
bought some cabelas 9mm reloads, mixed headstamp in a 300 round ziplock.
Loaded up the marlin's 12 round mag, pulled the trigger blam! splat scroiing!
The front sight flew off, the bolt would not open, the trigger would not reset.
Not wanting to take a loaded gun to a gunsmith, I disassembled it in my friends living room as plastic pieces, metal chunks and springs came pouring out of the action.
I hammered the bolt open and retrieved a very oddly bulged 9mm casing.
The gunsmith only charged me 25 bucks to put the gun back in working order.
I was sure the gun was a complete loss.
Neal Bloom
August 25, 2003, 10:36 PM
Had a snubby revolver go kaboom. Luckily no one was hurt.
Fed168
August 26, 2003, 12:39 AM
Shooting a .500 A Square out of an Encore. The gun flew ten feet over my head and lodged in the ground.
I was done for the day.
Josey
August 26, 2003, 02:58 AM
Hey Nothing. I was off duty and heard a gay domestic in a shopping mall. I got a bystander to call 911. I run to intervene as it is getting violent. I got to the fight and one guy picks up a metal display and hits the other. Head wound and blood everywhere. I draw my Kel-Tec 32 and order him to drop the display. He closes in on the downed victim and prepares to hit him again. I pulled the trigger. Nothing. I rack the slide and try again, nothing. The back ups had arrived and they took the guy down with mace. I will never own another Kel-Tec. The springs turned out to be bad in mine. Kel-Tec did repair the pistol under warranty. I dumped it at a gunshow.
WonderNine
August 26, 2003, 03:21 AM
Sounds like maybe you shouldn't have pulled the trigger on the guy. Er, I mean "gay". Or maybe luck WAS on your side so to speak.
Smoke
August 26, 2003, 10:20 AM
Had been shooting. Allowed others to shoot my 870. I reloaded the tube with buckshot and stowed it in the gunrack I had mounted in my cross the bed toolbox.
I always keep my shotguns "Cruiser Safe", No round in the chamber, trigger pulled to free the action.
A few days later I was in the toolbox and bumped the slide and noticed it didn't move. I tried to cycle it (still in the rack) and it didn't move. Deduced that I had forgotten to hit the trigger....so I did. :eek: :cuss: :banghead: :barf:
I thought my friends had shot the gun dry but apparently there was one shot left. Hole penetrated the toolbox, and the interior bed wall. DId not exit. Barely bulged the exterrior bed wall. DIdn't hurt the paint on the outside.
MoNsTeR
August 26, 2003, 10:32 AM
That would be sunday, when my Briley doubled :what:
Edward429451
August 26, 2003, 11:32 AM
Smoke, WOW!:what:
I had a similar close call a few years ago. Just got back from hunting and somehow one of the .308's didn't get cleared and was set on the cleaning table in basement. Sat there two weeks or so awaiting cleaning (Busy season for work), and eventually I went to clean it and picked it up, cycled the bolt, and here comes a 308 out of it! Safety was off all that time.
Religious adherance to the 4 rules averted a tragedy on that one. Very scary.
Henry Bowman
August 26, 2003, 12:21 PM
I was about 11 or 12 years old and was feeding the stock in the barn one cold afternoon. We kept the feed in a big box that had been a shipping crate for a casket. There was what I thought to be a rat in the box when I opened it (turned out to be a medium-large mouse). I shut the lid, went to the house and got my brother's .410 single shot with a full choke.
When I returned, I opened the box and cornered the varmit. I was used to shooting a .22 rifle most of the time and nothing at a range of only 1 yard. The blast flung the rodent about 6 feet into the air, which I had not expected. It also blew a 3" hole in the corner of the box. I had just given the mice a perfect door to the perpetual smorgasboard of our feed box.
I learned about the second half of Rule 4 that day (. . . your target and what is behind it ). Fortunately, I already knew how to repair the box.
OEF_VET
August 26, 2003, 12:50 PM
My biggest surprise with a handgun was a few years ago. I had just recieved my 686 from my dad and was out shooting it at the range. It has a VERY light trigger, and I was shooting it single action. I had the weapon pointed at my target, as I was getting my breathing slowed, my finger moved ever so slightly across the trigger. BOOM! Kind of startled me, because I hadn't meant to shoot yet. Fired it again with no surprises, but when I went to shoot the third round, I did it again. I looked around kind of sheepishly, but figured no harm, no fool. It did help cement the fact that the trigger is VERY light deeply into my mind.
With a rifle, I'd say last TN THR get-together; when my muzzle brake flew off my M44. Seems the pin holding it together broke and as the round went downrange, the force took the brake off with it. There was also the time I took my former BIL shooting my old Russian SKS. I showed him how to load it and I fired 10 rounds thru it. I then reloaded it for him and handed it to him. The safety was on and the weapon stayed pointed downrange. I told him to pull the bolt back and release it, aim, take the safety off, and squeeze the trigger. He pulled the bolt back and let it go. When it slammed forward, the firing pin was evidently stuck out, as the gun went BOOM!, putting a hole in the dirt, about 3 feet from my toes. Keep in mind, the safety was on and his fingers were all WELL away from the trigger. Scared the waste material out of me.
With a shotgun, it has to be my first gun ever, although it happened to my dad, not me. I had bought a single shot 12ga for $40 from the local sporting goods store (1983, so $40 was still a good deal). He wanted to try it first, to see how bad it would recoil before letting me shoot it. He stokes the pipe, closes the action, aims, pulls the trigger, and Click! He counts to ten with the gun pointed downrange, cocks it, pulls the trigger again, and Click. Repeats the same thing, only this time it goes BOOM, and the action breaks open and the spent shell flies out. He says it's going back to the store,but he'll try it one more time to see if it was just a fluke. Same thing, pulls trigger once, Click! Second time, gun goes BOOM, and shell flies out. Took it back immediately, got my money back, went elsewhere and bought a Mossberg 20ga. bolt action for $45.
Frank
vanbeast
August 26, 2003, 05:24 PM
First time shootin' a super nice Free Pistol at the club (I think a Pardini? Not sure).
If you aren't familiar with free pistols, they are single-shot bolt action SUPER ACCURATE pistols, almost always .22lr, and used in Olympic competition. They tend to have trigger pulls measured in ounces... like, less than 4.
After jamming my hand into the too-small grip, loading the gun, and cocking it, I brought it up like I bring up my high-standard... point slightly above the target, let the muzzle float down, line up the sights, fire.
The motion of bringing the gun up from the bench and pointing it above level caused the gun to fire. Some dire words crossed my lips and the other guys at the range looked at me like I had just shot myself. Nobody had thought to warn me about the trigger... my finger wasn't even NEAR it.
I've since learned to bring the gun up, cock, then sight and fire... helps a bit :)
Joe Demko
August 27, 2003, 09:09 AM
That would have been when I had the entire cylinder chain fire in a Spanish-made replica of a Remington blackpowder revolver. It was loud and surprising, but both the gun and I were unharmed.
Jesse H
August 27, 2003, 01:53 PM
Winchester Wildcat instead of an Aguila Colibri
And one time at the range about 3 rounds of Corbons in one mag went click instead of bang. I don't carry those anymore.
Quartus
August 27, 2003, 02:35 PM
Bang instead of click. Dry fire practice with a .38 Diamondback that resulted in a brand new sliding glass door. Never did find the slug. There was a cinder block wall just 4 fee outside that had to have stopped it, but I could never find a mark on it nor the slug.
Oh, that and shooting my best friend in the belly. That was kind of a bummer.
BenW
August 27, 2003, 03:12 PM
That would have been when I had the entire cylinder chain fire in a Spanish-made replica of a Remington blackpowder
That must have been a shocker! Out of everything I do with blackpowder, the only fear I have ever had has been chain firing. I pack the heck out of my 1851 cylinder with Crisco so it hasn't happened yet, and hopefully never will!:)
DJJ
August 27, 2003, 03:20 PM
The first time I fired a .375 H&H (and pretty much every time since :( ), never having fired anything bigger than a .30-06.
Skunkabilly
August 27, 2003, 03:41 PM
When my gun went bang instead of click.
My Beretta didn't break the wings off the locking block, and the gun didn't blow up because of the exposed barrel, bla bla X number of moving parts bla bla like Twoblink said it would :D :D :D :neener: :evil:
Trempel
August 27, 2003, 07:36 PM
No surprises here, thank G-D! I've seen a couple though. My buddy and I took his dad to teach him shooting. Rented a Taurus 44 Mag and after a lecture on safety rules and showing him how to do it, we let him loose. Half an hour into it, he goes "I don't remember if I fired 5 or 6" and squeezes the trigger one more time, while holding the gun sideways, palm up at hip level. Thankfully the muzzle was pointed downrange. It'd be funny if it wasn't so dumb.
PawDaddy
August 28, 2003, 08:53 PM
I was shooting my Ruger Super Blackhawk and on one shot, parts went flying. The screw holding the ejector rod broke. I had fired the gun several times and do not believe that it was my first outing with it. I guess that the screw was weak.
goon
August 29, 2003, 12:36 AM
I have had a couple.
One was my own stupid fault.
I had a S&W 686 that was getting out of time (but I was still too inexperienced to know that). It would occasionally misfire, but the round would always go off the second time.
After I had "emptied" the gun, I was dryfiring at the dirt bank where my target was. A click became a bang.
I could have sworn that I had fired all six, but physics says I didn't.
The other was more minor.
I had just bought my new CZ-75BD and I was shooting if for the first time. I was no stranger to handguns by then, having already gone through about a half-dozen in search of "the one".
I was accustomed to DA trigger pulls and to the smooth but slightly heavy pull of my SIG.
I accidentally bumpfired three rounds through it before I figured out what was going on.
The trigger pull is light and usable, but it really isn't that light.
Don't know what happened, but I felt the trigger engage and release for them all.
The last was the first time I shot my flintlock. The damn thing actually went off.:D
Politically Incorrect
August 31, 2003, 09:51 AM
I loaded my SA 1911A1 and racked the slide. The first round sounded like a squib, so I drop the mag, rack the slide, and then look down the barrel to see if a bullet was obstructing it.
My friend picked up a casing that was belled out to the .45 caliber size. It was a .40 S&W that somehow got mixed up in my .45 ammo box and seated itself inside the magazine feed lips.
Zach S
August 31, 2003, 11:42 AM
The biggest surprise I've ever had when pulling the trigger, was, well, the fact I pulled the trigger. I was digging aound in the top of my closet for something and my Kimber slid off the shelf, started towards the floor. I caught it, and put a rather large hole in a 12" subwoofer and speakerbox that was about to go in the trunk of my car.
4v50 Gary
August 31, 2003, 01:52 PM
A double from a Garand. That's not suppose to happen.:eek:
JDSlack
August 31, 2003, 03:03 PM
I was working as an instructor at the police range. Fellow officer brought in a CZ75 clone (I think it was a Tanfoglio, but won't swear to it). His neighbor had bought it and wanted it checked out. We loaded it up, after a visual check, and field strip, and I aimed and fired at the target....and it went full auto. BOY! was that exciting.
Turns out the previous owner had worked on the trigger (by filing the sear no doubt) just a little too much.
Mark IV Series 80
August 31, 2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Zach S:
.... my Kimber slid off the shelf, started towards the floor. I caught it, and put a rather large hole in a 12" subwoofer and speakerbox... Hello Zach,
Was your Kimber cocked and un-locked, or did you hit the safety as you were making the catch?
BTR
September 1, 2003, 11:18 AM
When my Makarov doubled...
wanderinwalker
September 1, 2003, 04:11 PM
The best surprise ever was the first time I shot a .44 Magnum. (I was 13 mind you, and about 110 lbs.) It didn't kick too bad, and I actually outshot the guy that owned it! I was impressed by the way that thing took out an entire shelf of soda cans with one shot.
Worst was first time shooting a different .44 Magnum. Dad had just gotten a SuperBlackhawk with the square-backed trigger gaurd. My knuckles still have a scar from that experience.
And then there is always the did-I-shoot-5-or-six? through the revolvers. Many a good group has been spoiled this way! :)
MoNsTeR
September 1, 2003, 05:28 PM
A much bigger surprise than getting one 2-round burst, was getting 3 more, after I'd fixed what I thought was the problem, during a match. My heart rate didn't come down for about 10 minutes after that one. :what:
Zach S
September 2, 2003, 07:50 AM
Was your Kimber cocked and un-locked, or did you hit the safety as you were making the catch? To be perfectly honest, I have no idea. I dont know if it got swiped off while sliding off of the shelf, or if I hit it while catching it, but it was C&Led when I put it in the closet.
Two habits came out of that day, one without me realizing it. One, I started using the $10 nylon holster when putting the gun up for the day (I'm half vampire, and therfore work graveyard shift). Two, whenever I catch something that falls, my trigger finger stays straight. I probably would've never noticed if my uncle didnt see me catch a ratchet and point it out to me.
NC Shooter
September 2, 2003, 07:59 AM
I was shooting a Ruger 357 with a friend in West Virginia. Next to us was a couple of guys shooting skeet. I had just reloaded and was getting ready to shoot when the skeet shooter next to me missed two shots at the clay. Thinking WTH, I leveled the 357 at the clay, aimed and fired. The clay disappeared in a puff.
The skeet shooter was only a little less surprised than I was. Needless to say I did not attempt to repeat this feat.
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