Well, I bought a new Taurus


June 23, 2008, 08:41 PM
I have had a Taurus 431 in 44 Special for many years, and I wanted one of their Model 605, 3", 357s back in the 90s, and I missed out. Well, they have them again, so I just got home with my brand new Taurus 605, 3". I stopped by the range and fired some 38s to check function. A-OK there. Been looking over it very carefully. Whoever has the job of lubrication on Taurus' assembly line is way too enthusiastic. Everything else I can find is just right. Barrel to cylinder gap 0.007"; endshake 0.002". Two sets of rubber/synthetic grips, only slight differences I can see between them, I guess some people prefer the pebbled finish. The one piece barrel shroud doesn't bother me nearly as much in real life as it does in the pictures. Balances pretty well, decent trigger in DA and SA; haven't measured anything yet.
At a little over $330 for this, versus over $600 for a new Smith, or $425 to $470 for a new Ruger, depending on type, right now I would have to say I think this Taurus was the best value in my case. And, I like the size, sights, weight, etc. best in this exact combination. I couldn't find a good used one. I will give an accuracy report next trip, but with my greatly diminished capabilities I am not sure it will really be fair to Taurus, but we'll see how she shoots.
I am not a real fan of any of the on-board locks, but since it has one, I may use it to keep it loaded and accessible. I haven't heard of any unintended engagements with the Taurus system, and I like it better than the hole in the side type. I must say I trusted my kids in the presence of firearms a lot more than my step-kids, just because I know how they had been raised and taught from the cradle. Such is life.

P.S. - One idiosyncrasy that I just noticed. You have to look close, and be a nitpicker like me to start with, but looking at it from the top, it does not look like the cylinder is properly aligned with the barrel. But, then I get to checking closer, and the chambers are not centered exactly in the not fluted sections of the cylinder. The chambers are exactly lined up with the bore.
I bet this thing is going to be just tons of fun with full house 170 grain Sierra JHP handloads. :evil:
One more thing. If they fired this thing for function test, they did the most amazing cleaning job in history afterwards. My bet is they do not function test fire every gun. I don't care, but it is a first for me.

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lee n. field
June 23, 2008, 08:51 PM
Good to hear. I just ordered a 605, right about that price, should be here Wednesday.

Yes, I'm taking another stab at owning a Taurus.....

June 24, 2008, 12:57 AM
Go figure I just picked up a 2" 605 this weekend. Shot it with some 125gr .357's and was surprised by how easy it was to shoot and that it didn't kick near what I though it would. Of course the muzzle blast was awe inspiring.

June 24, 2008, 01:06 AM
Congrats on the new Taurus. I know alot of people consider them cheap POS guns, but I for one really think thay can make quality guns when they want. I especially like their revolvers. My sister owns a Taurus model 608 in .357 Magnum (8 rounds) with an 8 inch barrel. It is one of the most accurate revolvers I have ever shot before and a hell of a lot of fun. Anywho Enjoy the Taurus and let us know how the accuracy test goes :)

June 24, 2008, 04:30 AM
Well, I couldn't stand the oozing oil anymore so I took it apart. I was really impressed at the appearance of all the internals (after wiping away the oil). No burrs or machine residue, at all. The inside frame surfaces weren't polished, but they looked as good as any Ruger or S&W I have seen lately; no big machining marks. It's always been interesting to me to see how Colt, S&W, Ruger, and Taurus double action revolvers are so different on the inside to accomplish the same thing, and look so similar on the outside, Colt's rotation aside.
I also ordered some Wolff springs. No knock on Taurus; I have done the same on all my revolvers. In all the years I have only had one (1) Wolff spring not give 100% ignition/reliability, and that was the lightest spring of three in the kit for my other Taurus. I went up one step and it was still worlds lighter than the factory's original, and haven't had anothar click in nearly 20 years. I wonder why the manufacturers think it is more cost effective to put such strong springs in guns. They put a lot more stress on things when practice firing if nothing else, so maybe they figure to sell more guns?

June 24, 2008, 09:16 AM
I just picked up a used blue Taurus 4" .32 Mag & a used SS Taurus 4" .38, both in great shape. I wanted a .32 Mag & I got the .38 for $171 plus 40 for shipping and FFL, so I could not resist it. (Paid too much for the .32, but that can happen when you want something)

The double action on the .32 is really good, while the single action has a slight catch in it that needs to be addressed. No biggie, probably a burr.

The .38 has a good double action and a very nice, though not equal to a Smith or Colt, single action. For the money, it is going to be a great range gun. It will be just the ticket for a "loaner" at the range.

They are not Smiths or Colts, but they are hard to beat money wise.

June 24, 2008, 09:47 AM
In the summer months I carry a 605 stainless 2" everywhere I go. It shoots nice and they come at a nice price. I will check out the 3" at the next gun show I go to.

June 24, 2008, 11:21 AM
My 4" Taurus M66 is more accurate than my M10.

I was shooting it yesterday and it locked up. Good thing, too, because apparently, that ^#& ()%& Lee Pro 1000 missed another powder charge in my wadcutters. Bullet stuck in the forcing cone lockin' it up. :banghead: I guess rather than an inspection mirror, I'm going to have to pull the case on each and every throw with that Pro 1000 to check powder charge on the 2.7 grain B'eye loads....at least until I can afford a Dillon 650 and toss that POS Lee in the trash dumpster next door. It seems to have trouble with the light loads. Heavy charges no problem. I can sit down and reload a box of 5.0 grains Unique and a 158 grain bullet without a hitch. I have a Dillon square deal set up for 9mm, but it's too much PITA to switch calibers with. I need to upgrade my press, I guess, just takes money.....lots of money. Or, just go back to the single stage Lyman turret for my light wadcutter loads.

So, you see, this is a reloader rant, not a problem with my gun. I won a match with it the other day, fastest time on pepper poppers. Beat all Smith and Wesson comers, was the only Taurus there. The DA on that thing is smooth and accuracy is phenomenal. It's a favorite in my collection.

June 24, 2008, 11:29 AM
My father recently picked up a Taurus 617 snub, and it is an awesome gun. It has good weight, balance, and is shockingly accurate. It even has a smooth trigger and 7 rounds of .357

I want one as well.

June 24, 2008, 03:14 PM
I have a Scandium, with titanium cylinder, in 38, rated for +p's. At 12 ounces, I seem to always gravitate back to carrying it onc the temps hit 90 here in South Fl. I picked a PF-9, for the extra 3 rounds, but even it feels heavy next to the Taurus.

June 24, 2008, 03:34 PM
Bought a blued 605- 2'' TAURUS 357 snub with the stainless barrel insert. Shoots really well with WALLY 125JHP.38+P Rem Umc 100 pack . Also shoots just as good but just a tad higher at 25ft. with WW.Whitebox 125JHP 38+P. Personal Defense from Wally. Oh yea, it has a .004 BC gap on this revolver and it looks tighter than the Smiths I compared it to, although I didn't have a feeler to check the Smiths with in the store. Cylinder lock up is good too.

June 24, 2008, 04:26 PM
Personally I'd've went with an SP101, but I've had good luck with Taurus wheelguns, so congrats.

June 24, 2008, 05:03 PM
lee n. field,

I know how you feel. The new Taurus Slim is calling out to me. This would be failed product #8 for me if I pick it up.

June 24, 2008, 08:45 PM
I recently bought a model 85ul and I too noticed that the lubrication had been put on excessively..thought it was funny

lee n. field
June 26, 2008, 02:03 PM
I just ordered a 605, right about that price, should be here Wednesday.

Yes, I'm taking another stab at owning a Taurus.....

Picked it up, right on schedule yesterday.

Looks good. Yes, it was quite oily. Cleaned the outside, and barrel and chambers. Don't think I want to pull the side plate just yet. Side plate screws out of the box were slightly buggered. Hmmm.

Just need to see how it shoots, then accessorize it.

June 26, 2008, 08:03 PM
I recently bought a used Taurus, 425ss. Nice gun, kicks like a mule, but overall, not that different from my S&W 686 and 629, certainly comparable in SA. The cylinder does not lock up quite as tightly as the Smiths, but the bullet sure is not going to miss the barrel.

I am satisfied. Nice piece.

June 27, 2008, 12:10 AM
I had that happen with a Smith years ago; buggered screws. I called them and they sent me new screws no problem. I would bet Taurus would do likewise.

June 27, 2008, 11:21 PM
I love my Ultra-Lite 731 in 32 H&R Magnum

June 28, 2008, 12:09 AM
Got this 2" model 3-4 yrs ago. Its been a real performer, its main diet has been 125g full house loads. I have no complaints at all. Its been shot a lot, in fact it was my most favored at the range for a long time. Its amazingly accurate out to yardages that I won't even type.

When someone gets next to me blasting my ears drum I pull this little guy out and return the favor. It was NIB 279 OTD.


June 28, 2008, 01:23 AM
nice ammo box bboomer- where did you find a 125gr SWC? (assuming the pic includes the ammo you referenced)

*ps yay to me for 2k in posts*

June 28, 2008, 02:23 AM
2000 posts, trickyasafox. Congrats.

lee n. field
June 28, 2008, 08:19 AM
Got my new one out yesterday. Shoots OK. :)

The filth is from 100 of my handloads, 20 storebought, and 2 .357. "Did it really hurt when I shot .357?" BOOM! "yes, it did".

June 28, 2008, 05:36 PM
nice ammo box bboomer- where did you find a 125gr SWC? (assuming the pic includes the ammo you referenced)

No, ammo in the pics are not full house .357 loads. My full house loads are Nosler 125g JHP.

The ammo shown in the box is my cast 38 spl 146g SWC loads. I refer to them as my crayola bullets. They look exactly as described.

The ammo boxes were homemade. That reminds me, I have 6-8 more of them to finish including the one in the pic. It/they need a front latch installed.

Congrats on 2K+

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