Bryco-jennings "brcyo 59" 380 auto


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coltm
June 23, 2008, 10:06 PM
I have one of these I got for extremely cheap from a pawn shop, I believe the firing pin is broken cuz it doesent look like there is one in the gun. I cant figure out how to dissasemble it, or know where to get a new pin. This is my first pictol, buI am not too new guns themselves any help at all is aprriciated thanks!!

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Anna's Dad
June 23, 2008, 10:12 PM
Here is a link to a Bryco Jennings 380 manual. Not sure if it's the same exact model, but maybe it will be helpful:

http://stevespages.com/pdf/jennings_380.pdf

wristtwister
June 23, 2008, 10:18 PM
In South Carolina, it's illegal for a gun dealer to even have one of these in his store. They do not meet the standard for the "melt" test, and it's something like a $10,000 fine for them to have them for sale to the public. I offered one to a friend of mine, and he told me he wouldn't take it because he could lose his SC firearms license for having it. There's a list of "Saturday night specials" like the Bryco-Jennings that are taboo.. so I have a paperweight that looks like a gun...:banghead:

WT

gripper
June 23, 2008, 10:31 PM
I did no tknow about the SC "melt test" RE 'Saturday Night Specials"....The last Southern state I bough tguns in was Lousiana...and more often than not;the guns I bought were on the 'budget priced" side of town.
But, i CAN state with conviction;that I have never owned a Bryco/Jennings/Davis ....the closest I had was an old phoenix Arms HP-22.For under $100.oo;it was a suprisingly good performer. I could hide it just about anywhere in hot weather clothing,it digested all ammo I could run thru it and it would put 11 rounds of CCI mini mag solids where I wanted ( out to 15 yards) in a hurry.

1 old 0311
June 23, 2008, 10:46 PM
Try gunpartscorporation

inheritor
January 24, 2009, 06:52 PM
rumors are a story being circulated with changes each time its told.that makes me wonder how many of you who bad mouth this firearm actually have proof of this occurance.my deceased father carried this particular sidearm for five years , fired more than 1000 rounds and the only problem he ever had was it would jam with reload ammunition.I now have the pistol and have fired over 500 plus rounds and even taught my 9 year old how to shoot a pistol with it.sounds to me like those who have had one blow up in their hands had the following problems.dirty firearm,clean the damn thing once in a while.unsafe ammunition,buy good ammo.inspection,always inspect any firearm before you even load it.some of you may be laughing , those who are laughing more than likley have common sense less can be said about the others.in conclusion for the love of god people use your heads once and a while

RippinSVT
January 24, 2009, 07:46 PM
rumors are a story being circulated with changes each time its told.that makes me wonder how many of you who bad mouth this firearm actually have proof of this occurance.my deceased father carried this particular sidearm for five years , fired more than 1000 rounds and the only problem he ever had was it would jam with reload ammunition.I now have the pistol and have fired over 500 plus rounds and even taught my 9 year old how to shoot a pistol with it.sounds to me like those who have had one blow up in their hands had the following problems.dirty firearm,clean the damn thing once in a while.unsafe ammunition,buy good ammo.inspection,always inspect any firearm before you even load it.some of you may be laughing , those who are laughing more than likley have common sense less can be said about the others.in conclusion for the love of god people use your heads once and a while.

Are you kidding me? A gun blowing up because it is dirty? Anything by the Bryco/Jennings/Lorcin/etc company is a piece of trash. They are unsafe guns, I know, I had one years back that would go full-auto on me, jam up constantly, and wouldn't hit a one foot square at 10 yards. They are cheap pieces of scrap-metal used by scum-of-the-earth criminals because they can be found in every bad neighborhood in the country in droves. Great, your gun works, the sun even shines on a dog's ass sometimes.

jcwit
January 24, 2009, 07:51 PM
Musta missed something here.

Who said anything about anything blowing up?

jcwit
January 24, 2009, 07:54 PM
Now I know why I see so many people running around without hands in the bad end of town.

BTW I'm glad for your dog.

inheritor
January 24, 2009, 11:39 PM
does anyone know how to research manufactoring dates on a firearm

Ric
January 25, 2009, 09:47 AM
I had one of those. It shot fine with ball ammo, but don't dry fire or it will break the firing pin. That's what happened to me, easy to change if you can find one.

broken
January 25, 2009, 10:23 AM
me and my brother and one cousin had a chrome plated .380 bryco-jen.one we traded back and forth to each other for 15 years,it alwys ran on ball ammo,deadly on snappin turtles,now ive moved up to fegs and had real good luck,also my brother and wife went to the armoury yesterday with me looking for a pistol,i tried to turn them on the feg pa63 but they went for a new hi point jhp .45 with a lifetime warrenty,i told him to go for it.their happy,im happy.

railroader
January 25, 2009, 12:09 PM
http://jimenezarmsinc.com/ I think bryco/jennings is jimenez arms now. I don't know if link is good either. Mark

inheritor
January 25, 2009, 02:07 PM
i guess i hit a nerve with rippinsvt. so now we know what part of town hes in must be missin fingers to huh. hehehehehe

ZO6Vettever
January 25, 2009, 04:02 PM
I have a friend with 2 Bryco Jennings 380's, both are junk. Neither will feed with a full mag so they would be a 5 shot except niether will feed the last round so they are 4 shot. When the don't stovepipe.

Treo
January 25, 2009, 05:15 PM
Best way I know to disassemble one is W/ a band saw

The Lone Haranguer
January 25, 2009, 05:57 PM
In South Carolina, it's illegal for a gun dealer to even have one of these in his store. They do not meet the standard for the "melt" test, and it's something like a $10,000 fine for them to have them for sale to the public.
:rolleyes: I hope this is for metal. :uhoh: A melting point test would fail every polymer-framed gun made, including many no doubt used by law enforcement.

MachIVshooter
January 25, 2009, 06:15 PM
rumors are a story being circulated with changes each time its told.that makes me wonder how many of you who bad mouth this firearm actually have proof of this occurance.my deceased father carried this particular sidearm for five years , fired more than 1000 rounds and the only problem he ever had was it would jam with reload ammunition.I now have the pistol and have fired over 500 plus rounds and even taught my 9 year old how to shoot a pistol with it.sounds to me like those who have had one blow up in their hands had the following problems.dirty firearm,clean the damn thing once in a while.unsafe ammunition,buy good ammo.inspection,always inspect any firearm before you even load it.some of you may be laughing , those who are laughing more than likley have common sense less can be said about the others.in conclusion for the love of god people use your heads once and a while

You wanna trust your life to one of these, that's your perogative. But don't try to convince the rest of us that they are anything but junk.

Best way I know to disassemble one is W/ a band saw

I agree. Oxy-Acetylene and pot metal are a nasty combination that usually results in lots of tiny 3rd degree burns.

jcwit
January 25, 2009, 06:30 PM
I wonder why a zinc cast pistol is looked down so much when a plastic pistol is so great? Probably because the price of the one doesn't come with much bragging rights.

This seems to be the logic of most guns and gun related gear.

If it doesn't cost mega bucks its not worth much. Do I trust my life with one of these, No, but if it was all I could afford or had at the time it would sure be worth a mint.

Treo
January 25, 2009, 07:30 PM
If it doesn't cost mega bucks its not worth much

I expect that whole "blowing up in your hand" thing kinda drives the value down as well :D

railroader
January 25, 2009, 07:31 PM
I wonder why a zinc cast pistol is looked down so much when a plastic pistol is so great? Probably because the price of the one doesn't come with much bragging rights

You will see plastic pistols that have had a lot of rounds shot through them but I don't think that would be case with zinc pistols. Zinc die cast isn't very strong. Back in the 60's they made car mirrors and hood ornaments out of die cast but the bumpers were made out of steel. There was a reason for that, one could take a hit and the other couldn't. I actually had a couple of jenning 22 pistols. They were just ok but not real reliable. Mark

jcwit
January 25, 2009, 07:50 PM
This deal about blowing up in your hand thing.
How many times has this happened? If this was a reaccuring experience the lawyers would be all over it. The companies would never be able to recover from the law suits.
I've never heard of a single brand of pistol self destructing as is being reported here. Possibly a problem here or there as with most mfg. But pistol after pistol blowing up seems more than a little farfetched.

Just my 2 cents.

Treo
January 25, 2009, 08:22 PM
Did you ever wonder why the compay has changed names so many times?
Just sayin :D

expvideo
January 25, 2009, 08:26 PM
I appreciate that they create cheap products because I think everyone should be able to afford a gun. That being said, I would never trust a $75 piece of inferior metal to hold the higher pressures of a .380 cartridge. .22 and .25 should be fine, but I am skeptical of a .380.

Treo
January 25, 2009, 08:41 PM
Especially W/ the "fierce recoil" .380s are known for.

Jiminez arms cost about as much as a good steak dinner. They also last about as long, and turn into the same thing before you get rid of them

jcwit
January 25, 2009, 09:55 PM
I would never trust a $75 piece of inferior metal to hold the higher pressures of a .380 cartridge. (A Quote)

I believe the cartridge is contained by a steel barrel however the bolt is cast zinc. This is of no consequence as the pistol is of the blow-back design. All this with the remarkable fierce recoil of the .380.

AS an afterthought the plastic pistols also have a steel barrel. And most of them are also of the blow-back design.

pith43
January 25, 2009, 10:46 PM
How many times has this happened? If this was a reaccuring experience the lawyers would be all over it. The companies would never be able to recover from the law suits.

Seems to me, thats exactlly what happened. Didn't Jennings Bryco get sued so many times they had to close shop? Maybe just one of those vicious internet rumours:scrutiny:

jcwit
January 25, 2009, 11:11 PM
Sued 1 time, 12 year old pulled trigger with cartride still in chamber. Supposedly attempting to unload pistol. Check google.

California justice.

Funderb
January 26, 2009, 12:45 AM
I had one for a while and it was fine.
ate anything and everything accurately.

piece of junk, but it worked.

jcwit
January 26, 2009, 01:17 AM
I here the same discussion regarding Hi-point pistols. Again more than likely because they are inexpensive with no bragging rights.


Regarding your commits TREO you sir "and I use that loosely" need to learn some respect even though you don't agree with the discussion or facts presented.

Now go about your studies.

railroader
January 26, 2009, 01:45 AM
I here the same discussion regarding Hi-point pistols. Again more than likely because they are inexpensive with no bragging rights. Actually from everything I have heard online Hi-points are a step up from Jennings. They are clunky but they work. Mark

jcwit
January 26, 2009, 01:55 AM
True, true plus a warrenty that can't be beet.
But still many tell how bad they are.

expvideo
January 26, 2009, 05:46 AM
Jiminez arms cost about as much as a good steak dinner. They also last about as long, and turn into the same thing before you get rid of them
ROFL! IF my sig line wasn't so full already, I would sig this quote. It's so funny because it's so true.

I here the same discussion regarding Hi-point pistols. Again more than likely because they are inexpensive with no bragging rights.
Actually, HiPoints are very good pistols that are know for their reliability and accuracy, but are extremely ugly, heavy and all-around unimpressive to look at.

HiPoints are very good guns for the money. Jiminez/Bryco/Phoenix are pieces of junk that are made out of the worst materials possible and have a bad reputation for a reason.

Now we've heard from a couple people who haven't had problems with theirs. Good for them. They are a rare breed. These pistols suck to a degree that you could probably build a better gun out of an airsoft pistol. If I had to choose between one of these and a brick, I would take the brick. And yes, I mean a literal brick, like the kind they build schools out of.

Now that being said, I do appreciate that they are on the market, because I think everyone deserves the right to own a gun, even if they have a very low income. They just need to understand that these guns are disposable. They aren't something you take to the range every other week and put 200 rounds through (like you could with a hipoint). They are something you put in your sock drawer and hope you never have to rely on.

broken
January 26, 2009, 09:57 AM
interesting views from everybody,when my brother picked out the hi point .45 he was wanting a 9mm,they were sold out,cant keep the 9mm hi point in stock,sells out.the salesman says he has big name brands come back in for warrenty repair more then the hi points.ive read on all forums weather,sig-s &w-ruger -hi point,theyrs teething problems in all brands,cracked frame,barrell this,finish that,jams.ive read a lot of good things on high point.way more good then negative.shoot safe

Robert
January 26, 2009, 10:29 AM
Hi Points and Jennings (or whatever they are doing business as now) are better than nothing, but only just. All firearms have their issues, but time has proven over and over that as a whole these less expensive firearms are more prone to failure than a more expensive firearm. I am not one to spend thousands of dollars on a hand gun. The only one I own is my father's Colt 1911 that he left me. That being said, if I were to trust my life to something, be it anything from my pistol to my truck, I want to ensure that I am getting the best my money can buy and in my opinion Hi Point and Jennings fail in that regard. Some people love them, some hate them. Personally I'd get the firing pin fixed and sell it, putting that money in a jar and save for a better firearm.

And guys lets keep things Highroad.

Ascot500
January 26, 2009, 10:38 AM
Wouldn't it have been great if someone would have answered the original question and everyone else kept their silly comments to themselves?

From memory: I believe that you push the retainer at the rear of the slide forward about 3/16", then the slide should lift upward and can be slid forward. Pretty simple.

I will add one silly opinion: when you hold a Jennings/Bryco look where your thumb rests, then look where the safety sits.
At least they got that right and no extended safety lever is needed.

expvideo
January 26, 2009, 03:42 PM
Gus, it isn't really fair to lump HiPoint and Jennings in the same pile. Jennings guns are garbage, plain and simple. HiPoints are actually very good firearms that I would trust my life to, and if more people knew about them they would too. But they are ugly. Very ugly. And not a joy to carry. They are the cheapest reliable gun on the market, but just because they are cheap does not mean that they are as bad as Jennings. HiPoints are great but ugly. Jennings are shiney but they are the definition of a polished turd.

broken
January 26, 2009, 04:06 PM
ive made some silly decisions before,but i value everyones opinion and insight and this is a discussian forum.so everyone discuss away.my brother is picking up his hi point today,after i shoot it one might find a home here as i dont have a .45 then later i can get me a colt1911 style .45 ive always wanted.have a great day fellas.

SirDarksoul
January 26, 2009, 04:33 PM
expvideo....The HP 380s and 9mm's are bricks I agree. If you ever actually hold and compare them tho I think you'll agree that the 40s and 45s are more like cinderblocks. On the other hand if one ever jams it makes a hell of a club. :P

pith43
January 26, 2009, 05:54 PM
Did ya ever notice that it's the guys with cheap guns that get angry when you say something derogatory about the guns they own... well, them and Glock owners.:p

Sorry, couldn't resist. Some people take things way too seriously.

In the interest of total disclosure, I actually bought a Glock the other day, but it's a 10mm, so that makes it ok.:D

Also in the interest of total disclosure, I have bought a Bryco .380 auto in my lifetime (as I'm sure there are others ;)). It's one of the guns I will never sell. I keep it to remind me not to buy junk (allthough the scars on the web of my hand do as much).

jcwit
January 26, 2009, 06:17 PM
Railroad tracks hehehe

Enemy_in_the_camp
January 26, 2009, 07:38 PM
I can't speak to the quality of these weapons as such, having never fired one. What I see as interesting is the attempt to use an internet forum as a validation tool.

The gentleman who's father owned one of the pistols in question seeks to validate his fathers choice of firearm by reporting , quite truthfully I'm sure, that dad's pistol functioned flawlessly and is still in service. Other users, who have found the Bryco-Jennings line less desireable, negate his experience as a fluke and the original poster takes umbrage at what he sees as an insult to his fathers wisdom in purchasing the pistol in the first place.

This is a semi-common occurance because instead of wanting to gather facts & reach a conclusion both sides seek validation and support for their pre-held opinions.

I'm not sure that this sheds any light on the issue at hand but I find it interesting.

saturno_v
January 26, 2009, 08:12 PM
At the range where I go i saw one of these contraption literally self destructing while shooting...an other could not hit the side of a barn at 25 yards and was a beautiful jamming device.

Hi-Point...are you kidding me??

Hi-Points (excellent CS, just ugly unwieldy heavy and technically rudimental but very accurate and reliable) are SIGs in comparison to the pot metal garbage, made by a company that change its name regularly in order to avoid lawsuits.

You do not see these "guns" anymore even in the shadiest Pawn Shop here in western WA....I saw one only once at a gun show few years ago.

jcwit
January 26, 2009, 08:53 PM
Maybe I can but it this way.

I saw a Kimber self destruct in my hand when it went full auto.

Shooting buddy informed me it happens to the best of familys.


Do I still use Kimber "you bet".

Now with all this said I'm out of this discussion as I do not plan to go down to a lower level of discussion.

makarovnik
January 27, 2009, 03:14 AM
I say snatch that puppy up. Call Greg at Jimenez Firearms and tell him what you need. The firing pin might be the same as a Jimenez JA-Nine or JA-380.

Google the name and the number will come up. The distributors for the new guns is called Shining Star. They don't currently make that model but many part interchange.

You can also check www.e-gunparts.com.

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