Ammo Recommendations for Stag 4L (Full Size AR-15)


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.455_Hunter
June 27, 2008, 12:50 AM
Greetings,

I have a Stag 4L (Lefty) on order. Unlike their M-4 clones, the 20 barrel, fixed-stock 4L unfortunately does NOT have a chrome chamber/barrel. I not sure of the reason behind this, but it may have something to do with a higher theoretical accuracy of the plain barrels. I wish the chrome barrel was an option, but the selection for left hand action AR-15 clones if pretty limited.

Am I at any disadvantage for ammo selection verses chrome bore AR-15 shooters?

What about the steel cased Wolf/Barnaul/Silver Bear products? Am I going to damage my chamber with these loads, or just face a higher rate of extraction failures/stuck cases?

What about steel jacketed projectiles? Do they cause concern for excessive barrel wear?

If you own a non-chrome AR-15, especially the Stag, please let me know with what ammo you have had good luck.

I hate to buy the expensive brass case/copper jacket stuff for just plinking, but I dont want to harm my weapon.

Thanks,

Hunter

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rklessdriver
June 27, 2008, 09:21 AM
Crome lined bores and chambers really only offer an advantage if you plan to shoot your rifle alot, carry it around in a Jungle enviroment and then never clean it.

Now a Crome chamber is harder and slicker than one that is just broached. It would have the edge in compatibility with steel cased ammo like Wolf, SB and the like. THIS NOT to say a regular broached chamber won't work. I have 3 new CMMG M4 rifles with regular NON CROME lined bores and chambers and they feed, fire, extract and eject steel cased ammo fine. Mine like the Wolf polomer stuff and the zinc coated SB. All AR's are different. Some like steel cased ammo some don't. You will have to take your rilfe out and try it. Be aware with the old laquer coated Wolf and Brown Bear/Barnhaul you will have to keep the chamber clean and brush it out to get the laquer out of it.

These bi-metal projectiles... I don't worry about it personally (other than starting a fire in dry climates). I have thousands of them down the pipe of my old Model 1 Sales CAR15 and Delton AR15 (one crome lined & one not) without a problem. I clean my rifles like I was taught in Boot Camp and the bores still look and shoot like brand new.

For in-expensive brass cased ammo look at the blue and white boxed Priv Partizan 62gr or 55gr. I just bought a bunch and it was reasonable, price wise. My CMMG M4s really like the 62gr (one hole at 50yrs).
Will

strat81
June 27, 2008, 09:32 AM
rklessdriver has it right.

You'll be fine with pretty much any ammo. Chrome lining helps make cleaning easier, is better for full-auto fire, and is less likely to corrode as fast as a plain barrel.

It doesn't sound like this rifle will have full-auto capability. You'll have to send a few more patches down the bore to clean it. And you'll have to be a little bit for diligent about cleaning it. If you clean after every range trip already, you'll be fine.

If you plan on shooting a lot of steel, be sure to keep your chamber clean by using a good solvent and chamber brush.

Barrel wear is a non-issue, generally. If you shoot steel exclusively instead of brass, you'll save enough after 3-4 cases to buy a whole new barrel anyway.

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