Go to war over secession from union today?
scotjute
August 25, 2003, 02:42 PM
Would you be willing to go to war today over the issue of another state seceding from the union (USA) today? Either to keep them in, or to let them leave?
What if it was your own state?
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JohnBT
August 25, 2003, 04:03 PM
It's hard to imagine we could ever find another Lee, but Virginians are a surprising bunch.
John
Goaltender66
August 25, 2003, 04:10 PM
Wouldn't it depend on the context in which the state was seceding? For instance, if a state government went wacko and wanted to form a fundamentalist Islamic theocracy, then I'd have a pretty big problem supporting a secession.
If, on the other hand, said state was seceding for more meat and potatoes issues (in other words, if Walter Williams was running the movement), then that would greatly influence my outlook on the matter.
Goalie
Erik
August 25, 2003, 04:25 PM
Love or leave it means that you move.
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None of the realistic hypotheticals that come to mind would cause me to contemplate wagin war on my country.
Wage war against those who would seek to fracture us? Yep.
MJRW
August 25, 2003, 04:37 PM
Errr...What are we rebelling about now? That would be helpful in picking.
.45Ruger
August 25, 2003, 04:55 PM
If a state wants to leave, by all means leave. Most states would simply aren't viable independent political or economic entities. But if all of our members in CA would like to move back to the US I would be glad to see CA go.
Standing Wolf
August 25, 2003, 05:00 PM
If you joined voluntarily, you should be able to unjoin voluntarily.
seeker_two
August 25, 2003, 05:09 PM
If a state wants to leave the Union, let them. I won't fight to keep them against their will.
Now, the real question is: Would you be willing to fight to get a few states EXPELLED?
For Kalifornia, New Yawk, & Tax-a-chusettes--ABSOLUTELY! :D
4v50 Gary
August 25, 2003, 05:10 PM
I would not go to war if a state wished to secede from the Union. Nor would I fight to keep Kalifornia within the Union. I'd sooner leave Kalifornia as there is little here for me.
Carlos
August 25, 2003, 11:56 PM
OK, a state can leave as long as it expects no Federal support, aid, anything, including military, be taxed on use of roads outside their little fastasy world, etc. Fine by me.
Now, if you wanted to talk banishment, I'd surely support that for more than one state.
:cool:
winstonsmith
August 26, 2003, 12:31 AM
I wished I lived in a state where I could behave like Robert E. Lee. You know, going with whatever my state says, But unfortunately the constant erosion of my civil rights doesn't make me too willing to spill blood for my state.
jimpeel
August 26, 2003, 12:48 AM
I have told my wife that, regardless of our financial condition at the time, we will be moving immediately to the first state that choses to secede -- with the exception of Hawaii. The states that are most likely to secede, because of strong secessionist movements within those states are Hawaii, Montana, Idaho, and Texas. I hope it's Texas that goes first.
The state that actually should secede is California. They have 500 miles of coastline, 15% of the nation's population and with it 15% of the nation's income and taxes, three major ports, the largest railyard west of the Mississippi, six international airports, the fifth largest economy on the face of the Earth. What do they need with the federal government?
Let them even suggest they would think about seceding and see how fast the tanks roll on the streets of Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, and Sacramento.
Think of how well California would do if all of those taxes that currently flow to Washington, DC flowed to Sacramento instead. Also think about how quickly they would spend all of that money into their next deficit.
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