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jdfdave
June 28, 2008, 10:45 AM
A quick question,
As a fairly new pistol shooter, I was wondering as I practice, should I train myself aim with both eyes open. I have a 3 dot sight set up on my springfield xd9. After 100 rounds or so the eye I keep closed so I can aim with the other gets really tired. I have tired practicing some with both eyes open.
What's the best way, so I can develop a goos habit?

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Vern Humphrey
June 28, 2008, 11:50 AM
Both eyes open. You'll find it less stressful.

When I got older, I found that I became far-sighted in my right (master) eye and near-sighted in my left. I had to re-train myself.

I now use the left eye for the sights and see them needle-sharp. With the right eye open, I can see the target in sharp focus, too -- and the brain will superimpose those two images, so I can see and shoot better than I could before.

nwilliams
June 28, 2008, 12:18 PM
This question comes up a lot on THR.

The reason I close one eye is to overcome an eye dominance issue I have, if you don't have eye dominance problems and can focus on your front sight with both eyes open then you should just do it that way probably. If however you do have a dominant eye then you may want to close one eye so as the keep your shots lined up. I keep both eyes open until just before I'm ready to shoot at which point I squint one eye, when I'm done firing rounds then I open both eyes fully again. Basically as my finger touches the trigger I squint my right eye focus on the front sight then squeeze the trigger.

This is what works for me, it may not work for everyone. The fact is there is no right or wrong way about it, you can do what works best for you. I've had instructors for both defensive and marksmanship say the same thing, whatever gets your shots on target is what you should be doing. I happen to be right handed and left eye dominant I tend to push my shots left if I keep both eyes open when I shoot. If I squint and focus with my left eye then I can generally put the shots right where I want them so that's what I do.

MrBorland
June 28, 2008, 01:03 PM
I started out shooting 1-eyed, but re-trained myself to shoot with both eyes open. I ate a lot of humble pie while my groups initially opened up, but I stuck with it and my shooting's much improved from it. For one thing, I get a lot less eye strain, so the sight picture is more stable and I'm a lot less apt to rush the shot. Also, when going from 1 eye open to both eyes open, the pupil contracts to accomodate the overall increased light; as the aperture (pupil) gets smaller, depth of field increases, so it's easier to see a clearer sight picture.

At first you'll see all kind of confusing images when you try to shoot with both eyes open. Stick with it, though. Your brain doesn't like confusing images, so it'll sort the images out eventually. The good news is that this is very easy to work on at home and improvement ought to come fairly quickly if you practice.

Big Boomer
June 28, 2008, 02:19 PM
:uhoh: This is what my wife does when she shoots my big bores :p

I never really thought about it, I think I shoot one eye closed but I imagine that is wrong.

I actually shoot better with my glasses off that with them on. Perhaps that's because I never used to have them when I learned to shoot? I prefer to be able to see the sights and have the target blurry. I don't have to be able to see details on the target just so much that the sights are in the right place on the blob.

easyrider6042004@yahoo.ca
June 28, 2008, 02:42 PM
I'm both nearsighted (left eye 100, right eye 75) and astigmatic (forgot the numbers, but both eyes are quite bad), and have to wear glasses.

So in my case, for 25 meter slowfire for example, I keep both eyes open but use my dominant and better (right) eye.

For 7-15 meter SD training where speed and accuracy are equally important, I use both eyes and and place special emphasis on trying not to blink when the shot goes off. The latter seems to be as important as all the other basics (breathing, sight alignment, trigger and flinch control).

I'm becoming a lousier shot every year because of my eyes so am in the process of fitting dot scopes to most of my toys. With dot scopes, its definitely two-eyes open. Virtually eye strain-free and shooting is a lot more fun when you actually hit what you aim for:)

jdfdave
June 28, 2008, 03:13 PM
Since posting here, I have checked around the internet, and general the view I have found seems to be from 7 to 15 yards, both eyes open. Past that try to keep both eyes open, but partially close the less dominant eye for just a moment right before you pull the trigger. Also, practice alot at home on the trigger pull. ( Practicing gun safety of course, double check, and check again to make sure the weapon is unloaded.) It seems I have some work ahead of me, but it will fun work. Thanks for the advice. Now,am I on the right track?
I hope so I am going to the range this afternoon.

MrBorland
June 28, 2008, 04:32 PM
One trick that might help you while trying to learn shooting with both eyes open is to turn your head a little in the direction of your non-dominant eye. It seems to help the double vision a bit. In fact, turn it enough, and the bridge of your nose occludes your shooting hand and double vision is eliminated. IMO, though, that's too far, as it wouldn't train your brain to deal with confusing input.

10-Ring
June 28, 2008, 07:01 PM
Both eyes open! :what: O P E N!

Geno
June 28, 2008, 07:16 PM
This is how I was trained:

Point shooting = both eyes open (focus on target with pistol silhouetted over target)

Precision shooting = one eye open (focus on front sight)

Doc2005

AndyC
June 28, 2008, 07:30 PM
I shoot with both eyes open

borntwice
June 28, 2008, 07:35 PM
I shoot with both eyes open. Works great for me.

GRB
June 28, 2008, 07:39 PM
I do it both ways. It seemingly relieves stress on the eyes. Depending on the situation it also can save your acute eyesight, such as when shooting in near dark, one eye closed so as not to be blinded in both eyes by muzzle flash.

ExSoldier
June 28, 2008, 07:48 PM
Hooo Boy! Okay: For pleasure shooting at a range or to test accuracy on a new gun, then it's non-dominant eye CLOSED. For IDPA it's both eyes open. Teaching a novice to handle a firearm, well I teach both eyes open so as to make it easier to acquire all 'round proficiency. I blame the army for my predicament. I spent some time with the post MTU (Marksmanship Training Unit) as the XO of the Composite Pistol Team. They drilled me in the classic target pistol stance: Quartering the target, one eye closed, non-firing hand IN THE pocket and a full on single hand grip. Remember this is BULLS EYE for score not combat simulation.

JShirley
June 28, 2008, 07:59 PM
Both eyes open. The only exception is when taking a precision shot when the light is failing.

J

ZeSpectre
June 28, 2008, 11:44 PM
After much debate here and research I've discovered that I'm one of those weird folks who doesn't have a dominant eye. (Yes we really do exist).

As a result I simply cannot "ignore" one eye for the other and so I have developed the technique of squinting (not closing) my non sighting eye just enough to block the sight. I can still see motion and have my outside peripheral vision so I don't think I'll get blindsided but I'm certainly not keeping both eyes wide open.

caseypj
June 29, 2008, 12:29 AM
I've always practiced both eyes open, I was taught this was the proper method at Hunter safety training years ago.

mtngunr
June 29, 2008, 12:57 AM
I would no sooner practice shooting with only one eye than I would enter a boxing ring with one arm or leg tied down....don't practice handicapping yourself.....both eyes open means best threat detection....

Stevie-Ray
June 29, 2008, 01:04 AM
I'm cross-dominant and can't use both eyes. I always close the right. Works for me.

bond007
June 29, 2008, 01:13 AM
I generally practice with both eyes open, but if I'm really trying to make a single shot I'll close my left eye and take my time.

give
June 29, 2008, 01:22 AM
i guess it all depends on what type of shooting you are doing,ifyou are trying to hit the bull then i find one eye closed works best for me,it you are trying to hit general area,upper torso,what ever,then both open,way i was tought by my father,who was a seal in viet nam,he said it is is like pointing at something,try it,point at something,thewn close one eye and look,usueally it is on the money,but that is something more in the line of self or home defence,is a good exercise tho

give
June 29, 2008, 01:23 AM
lol,sorry bond,just read what you put,same thing

Mad Magyar
June 29, 2008, 06:02 PM
I shoot with both eyes open. Works great for me.
+1 One eye for the rifle....:D

Flamer
July 2, 2008, 09:14 PM
It is just a personal preference for me but I shoot with one eye closed.

Tried both eyes and I just don't shoot well with both open. I think the best advice would be to practice both types of aiming and see which you do the best with and then practice using that type of aiming so your proficient with it.

Then after your comfortable with that, if you feel the need you can try and sharpen up the weaker style of aiming.

I always say never mind what others say or do, do what works for you.

Lonestar49
July 2, 2008, 09:29 PM
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SgtKnuckles
July 2, 2008, 09:38 PM
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jfrey
July 2, 2008, 10:00 PM
I hate to shock some folks, but it don't matter. I shot rifles and shotguns for years with one eye closed. In '92 I had an accident and am now blind in my left eye. Literally, my first thought when I found out was "Thank God it wasn't my shootin eye". I can shoot just as well either way, since I only see light and fuzzy images in my left eye. I have also noticed that I see my sights clearer with my left eye closed, however, I do keep both eyes open when shooting hundreds of pistol rounds just because it fatigues my eye to keep it closed that long. Being blind in one eye is like closing it, so I don't see the difference. Do what works for you.

RNB65
July 2, 2008, 10:04 PM
I shoot handguns with one eye. Since I'm cross dominant, I hold with right hand and aim with my left eye.

Mark K. C.
July 2, 2008, 10:17 PM
Both eyes for sure. If you are ever in a defensive situation and close one eye then you have just lost 50% of the whole picture.

GBExpat
July 2, 2008, 11:49 PM
I am a presbyotic, left-eye-dominant righthander ... for point shooting I keep them both open (which means that I aim with my left eye) and for precision shooting I close my left.

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