[Doug444]

I think I already know the answer to this one, but I'm going to consult you all first.

In a recent article in our local SLC Tribune (one about some Colorado BG's who ran amok in SE Utah a few years back), there was a comment about Glock pistols having a plastic barrel that doesn't leave rifling marks on bullets. This, supposedly, for a local LEO. I'll try to find the article on line and get the quote, but in the mean time I thought I'd just ask you folks - ANY truth to this statement? I've only handled/shot one Glock (a 17) and it had a steel barrel.

Doug444

Dang, I may have put this in the wrong place. Mods, feel free to put it where it belongs. (Be nice ;) )

[Augustwest]

Sounds like a buncha hooey to me.

[Navy joe]

:scrutiny: I got a bridge to sell that guy. Glocks have a steel barrel, slide assy, and various small metal parts. They leave very distinct rifling marks dur to the polyagonal bore. They most certainly are easily detectable by any metal detector out there.

[Drjones]

Glocks have metal:

- Slides

- Barrels

- Parts embedded IN the frame (slide rails)

- Springs

[MJRW]

I'm going to have to add this to the list of features about my glock I didn't know it had.

[Doug444]

Here's the quote:

But the San Juan County sheriff doubts ballistics tests will shed any more light on the shooting. Glocks, which police often carry, are made with plastic barrels and do not produce "riflings," the distinct impression left on slugs by firearms with steel barrels.
"A lot of times with Glocks, you can't tell which gun a [slug] came from," Lacy said.

And a link to the story: www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08242003/utah/86561.asp

[4v50 Gary]

Plastic barrels? Wheeeee! I want one.

The writer needs to go to a THR shoot and learn something about guns. :rolleyes:

[rock jock]

I would love this "cop" to actually fire a 9mm out of a plastic barrel. After it blows up and leaves shards of polymer embedded in his face, we can discuss ballistics.

[Standing Wolf]

But the San Juan County sheriff doubts ballistics tests will shed any more light on the shooting. Glocks, which police often carry, are made with plastic barrels and do not produce "riflings," the distinct impression left on slugs by firearms with steel barrels.
"A lot of times with Glocks, you can't tell which gun a [slug] came from," Lacy said.

Another presstitute tries to sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the minds of the ignorant.

[seeker_two]

Glocks, which police often carry, are made with plastic barrels and do not produce "riflings," the distinct impression left on slugs by firearms with steel barrels.

Since when did cops start carrying Airsofts for sidearms? :scrutiny:

[gun-fucious]

Glocks, which police often carry, are made with plastic barrels and do not produce "riflings

cool, so Glocks are really Short Barreled Polymer Muskets!

[4v50 Gary]

Cops will carry airsofts for sidearms when the cost of defending themselves, their agency and their employer (city/county/state/fed gubmint) in a lawsuit is disproportionate to letting the BG get away with murder.

Have you checked your Airsoft today?

[SelfProclaimedExpert]

I wonder if Polygonal rifling is sometimes more difficult to discern individual bore differences (between Glock 19 exhibit A and Glock 19 exhibit B).

If so, that could have been the mistaken basis for that misquote.

Either way, I just wrote a letter to the editor. It's not a "gun issue". A fact is a fact. And some idiot might do something dumb armed with the "information" from the article.

[10-Ring]

Glocks, which police often carry, are made with plastic barrels and do not produce "riflings,"



:rolleyes: There goes Chief Wiggum shooting off his mouth again

[Keith]

Well, the way I heard it down at the gun shop... Glock barrels and slides used to be made out of ceramic so they could be snuck through airport metal detectors. You could buy extra barrels at Pottery Barn that shot .577 Tyrannosaur (and some other interesting wildcats) that were good for killing cops. So, Glock switched over to plastic and the rest is history!
And the gun store clerks cousins sisters boyfriend has one of the original wooden Glocks handmade in a Cuckoo Clock factory in the black forest. It's a collectors item and worth a million dollars!

Keith

[PCRCCW]

Speaking of Million$, this thread is absolutely priceless :D :evil:

The fact that this got published in the city I live next too....is even more priceless.......................................NOT! :what:

Shoot well

[MeekandMild]

Yes, you know that's true. A guy I know confirmed it.

Also did you know they used to be made with clear plastic which was nearly entirely invisible. But LEOs complained it was hard to find their own guns if they laid them down on the desk. They had to sprinkle sugar from little white doughnuts around until they found them.

So finally Glock started making them out of black plastic. But they still had to put in a special compound so they wouldn't be entirely clear to airport X-ray machines.

:neener:

I wonder if Polygonal rifling is sometimes more difficult to discern individual bore differences You can't get this option unless you live in Utah. Its banned everywhere else in favor of monogonal rifling.

[45R]

I think who ever wrote that had a wasnt wearing his/her tin foil baseball cap liner ...:evil:

[M58]

I read that the G7 is all plastic.
So it must be true for the children.
:neener:

[TheeBadOne]

I wonder if Polygonal rifling is sometimes more difficult to discern individual bore differences (between Glock 19 exhibit A and Glock 19 exhibit B).

-SPE
Yes it is.

[vanbeast]

Regarding polygonal rifling, Meekandmild said:
You can't get this option unless you live in Utah. Its banned everywhere else in favor of monogonal rifling.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... sniff... *wipes tears from eyes*

That's some quality funny right there! Thanks!!

[MJRW]

Now that I think about it, I think some reporter doesn't know the difference between "polygonal" and "polymer."

[Drjones]

I wanted to write a letter to the editor, but could not for the life of me find any sort of contact information other than to purchase a subscription. :scrutiny:

I saw someone else here mention they wrote a letter to the editor. Wher did you get the info?

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it. FINALLY. :rolleyes: http://www.sltrib.com/help/forum.asp If anyone else wants to write in.

[Sergeant Bob]

THIS!!! Also did you know they used to be made with clear plastic which was nearly entirely invisible. But LEOs complained it was hard to find their own guns if they laid them down on the desk. They had to sprinkle sugar from little white doughnuts around until they found them. is why I keep an extra keyboard and a roll of Bounty (the quickerpickerupper) handy at all times!!

[4v50 Gary]

MeekandMild - fingerprint powder was used until the agencies with lighter uniforms (predominantly sheriff departments) got their shirts too dirty. That's when the doughnuts came in. It became a fingerprint powder v. white donut controversy in law enforcement circles, rising to debate even at the National Institute for Justice and at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) at Georgia. To make everybody happy, the resolution was to put dye into the plastic.

It pays to read management magazines.

[SkunkApe]

Also did you know they used to be made with clear plastic which was nearly entirely invisible. But LEOs complained it was hard to find their own guns if they laid them down on the desk. They had to sprinkle sugar from little white doughnuts around until they found them.

I laughed so hard that I farted when I read this. Thanks, MeekandMild.

[chaim]

Hmm, I guess SkunkApe lives up to the first half of his name.:evil:

[TheOtherOne]

I saw someone else here mention they wrote a letter to the editor. Wher did you get the info?

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it. FINALLY. http://www.sltrib.com/help/forum.asp If anyone else wants to write in.You could also e-mail the writer of the article directly: csmart@sltrib.com

[300lbGorilla]

And to think, a simple call to the actual manufacturer of the gun would have cleared things up.

Then again, Glock could have had an ulterior motive. :rolleyes:

I'm finally on the conspiracy theory bandwagon... the ultimate goal of the "Puppeteers" is to make sure EVERYONE is dumber than the previous generation. This will continue on until it takes training to learn how to properly use a handtowel. Then they'll have us where they want us. :uhoh: :scrutiny:

My cave is calling....

[Shake]

Just for the record (some apparently didn't notice), though there are a few dim-witted LEOs out there, the plastic barrel segment of the article was NOT a direct quote.

The officer was quoted as saying it was difficult to match a bullet with a gun where GLOCKs are concerned.

Any of you who have ever dealt directly with the media will understand that what YOU say and what THEY write are generally not the same.

Shake

[GeorgeAtl]

Yep!! Sounds like a "Stealth Glock"....one of those that the metal detectors can't pick up!!

Glock 7, Right??:rolleyes:

[Forseti]

I sent a note to the reporter, and copied all his editors pointing out his mistake. Wonder what I will hear back?

Was polite, pointed out he was flat out wrong.

[Forseti]

...and all my notes were instantly rejected by their mail server. Seems they don't like it if you copy anyone on a note, calling it a "mail loop".

[griz]

The clear plastic is a good idea. That way even a reporter could tell if it was loaded.:neener:

Unless of course the ammo was clear too. Could an x-ray pick up a bullet fired by one of these plastic guns?

[Justin]

I wonder if Polygonal rifling is sometimes more difficult to discern individual bore differences (between Glock 19 exhibit A and Glock 19 exhibit B). Forget Glock A and Glock B. How about Glock A and Glock A 6 months later after it's had a case of ammo put through it. :rolleyes:

[Forseti]

...So, I called the reporter. Nice guy. Misunderstood what the police told him about determining ballistics on the gun. He is going to amend the report on the web, so this line may disappear shortly. Didn't try to do anything deliberate here, just didn't understand guns, and misinterpreted what the police said.