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dispatch
June 28, 2008, 10:47 PM
Okay- Taurus Model 94- .22 LR has got a lot of bad press. I had gift cards I had to use so I picked one of these up. Havenít shot it yet, but every thing on the revolver is as it should be. It does seem to have a really heavy double action pull, but it is crisp in DA and SA mode. The bluing is beautiful- reminiscent of older Smiths. Grips are too small- any advice appreciated.

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metrotps
June 28, 2008, 10:58 PM
For best accuracy I suggest using at least a 40 grain bullet in it. The lighter bullets do not stabilize well in the 1 in 15 twist of the Taurus. I have found so far that mine likes CCI best.

MedWheeler
June 28, 2008, 11:11 PM
My ex and I had one quire a few years back. I had bought it for her as a learning and bedside weapon. Gave us no problems whatsoever, and was reliable, and reasonable accurate. I had (and still have) a Model 66, so the 94 seemed like a logical .22 companion for it. Both seem to have been well made. I bought the Model 66 in 1987, and the 94 in 1990 (I gave her the 94 when we divorced in 1996.)

10-Ring
June 28, 2008, 11:25 PM
I've this love hate thing going w/ mine. I hate how the rear sight shifts on its own -- only gun I know of w/ self adjusting sights--, the DA trigger is long & heavy on the verge of crappy. Over the years, the bluing has unevenly worn and replaced by rust.
On the good side, I figured long ago that if I learned to shoot this gun I could shoot anything. So, over the years, I've put 1000's upon 1000's of rounds through it, learned to shoot DA wheelguns pretty well :cool:

Glock Holiday
June 29, 2008, 12:00 AM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x42/Glockholiday/shiny2.jpg
I got mine (upper left) used and had a $80 dollar action job done on it.
It's now a great little gun.
That being said I'll trade anyone straight across for their K-22 masterpiece.;)

Apple a Day
June 29, 2008, 10:04 AM
I had one and traded it after a while.
Shallow rifling leaded up with plain lead rounds.
Accuracy wasn't impressive.
The trigger got a little better after a few thousands rounds but was still heavy in DA.
Carefully putting a dab of flourescent hobby paint on the sights improved them dramatically.

tubeshooter
June 30, 2008, 11:49 PM
I have wanted to give one of these a chance in the past... pickings are pretty slim nowadays for a DA .22, not a whole lot of options.

But I agree about the bad press. What I have heard over the years was just too hit-and-miss to go through with it.


10-Ring: You don't want to blue Loctite that rear sight in place?

Moonclip
July 1, 2008, 05:10 AM
I think the manual reccomends 40gr bullets. All the 94/941 revolvers I've had have had issues.

Colt46
July 1, 2008, 10:42 AM
gritty action. Least favorite handgud. Rests comfortably in the back of the safe.

22LongRifle
July 3, 2008, 06:00 AM
All rimfire revolvers have a heavy DA trigger. Its the nature of the beast due to the striking power needed to assure consent firing.

I had one and have shot several. Some good, some bad. But, then the same can be said about the S&W 317s I've shot.

If you aren't set on the Taurus, I would suggest the Charter Arms Pathfinder. Its my next pruchase after firing a few at the range. And they are American made, with good costumer service, and priced right.

If not, and the Taurus is a must, then I would get the steel version of the 94 and stay away from the ULs. The ULs seem to be the ones with the most problems.

The 94 isn't a target or hunting handgun. Its a nice small frame wheelgun to plink with, use for snake guns, and teach new shooters with. And, the same can be said for the very more expensive S&W 317.

22lr

woodsltc
July 3, 2008, 08:23 PM
any advice appreciated.

Sell it ASAP for what you can get for it and buy a S&W or a Ruger !!!

In the long run you will have a much better .22 and you will be happier.

Taurus=:barf:

dispatch
July 3, 2008, 08:41 PM
Colt46
But it's still in the safe? I'm working this one hard enough to make finger and thumb sore, but I've done that with Smiths and Rugers too. Have'nt been to the range yet. We'll have to see where in the safe it resides.

tuckerdog1
July 3, 2008, 08:41 PM
Liked mine a lot. Trigger was heavy. Keep an eye on the windage adjustment screws on the rear sight. They'll back out & get lost.

Tuckerdog1

dispatch
July 3, 2008, 08:44 PM
woodsltc- got a Smith Model 18 and love it. Just need a beat around gun- ERGO Taurus 94.

weregunner
July 4, 2008, 05:09 AM
Have a Taurus 94. Anything I was going to say is in the links.

Seems there are those who like the 94 and find it quite useful.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=640.msg5115#msg5115
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=652.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6457.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7491.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6508.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=6899.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1093.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1498.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1609.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7184.msg7901#msg7901

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1060.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=13.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=4978.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7585.0

JD_Ruger_fan
August 21, 2008, 02:09 AM
I got a 94 and I'm a little apprehensive. Seems like it gets a lot of bad press.

MortalWombat
August 21, 2008, 01:05 PM
I had one for about a year. The double action pull was just too stiff for my tastes, and even cocking the hammer to shoot single action was uncomfortable as the checkering bit into my thumb too much. Supposedly, they smooth up after a lot of shooting, but I didn't have the patience for it. I traded it in for a Single Six, since I was shooting so much in single action mode anyway. I don't have anything against Taurus in particular, as I own an 851 snubby and am perfectly happy with it.

Rmart30
August 21, 2008, 07:01 PM
Ive got a older blued 94 without the underlug. Its a great little plinking gun, light enough to not notice on a walk thru the woods.
I also recently got a SS 94 w/5" underlug barrel, its trigger is muuuuuch heavier than the older 94, or my Rossi 518. But its a nice crisp single action which is how i will shoot it 99% of the time so the heavy dbl action doesnt bother me.

JR47
August 21, 2008, 07:12 PM
Have a pair of early 4" versions. One in Stainless, and one blued. They have literally thousands of rounds through them, with no problems.

While neither is a target grade gun, both are easily minute of 12 ga hull at 15 yards.

Also have a S&W Model 17, 6". The triggers on both Taurus 94's are easily as smooth now as on the Model 17. The Model 17 also gums up faster than the Taurus.

Neither of my guns has any problem with the rear sight.

Master Blaster
August 22, 2008, 09:38 AM
Its one of my favorite .22 revolvers and I have 5 Smiths to compare it to, its the equal of any of them in fit finish and function. It has a better DA trigger than my 1956 K22. My son and daughter also like to shoot it, and they have no problem with the DA trigger, they both do have a problem pulling the DA on my K22s. I bought mine in 1996 and probably have 20,000 rounds fired at least, with zero problems, accuracy is excellent and mine seems to prefer the 38 grain federal copper plated bulk pack bullets. When I take newbies shooting its the gun I use to teach them how to shoot. BTW mine is a 4" and I have a hogue wood finger groove grip on it.
In short its a great revolver, and my son likes the fact that its 9 shots.

tinygnat219
August 22, 2008, 12:28 PM
any advice appreciated.

Ok, first thing is to not try to go to a lighter spring. You will get misfires. I swapped the springs out for a lighter one, then swapped it back. I still had the same amount of misfires.

Second thing, it's a Taurus revolver, so crack open that sideplate and look for metal shavings. It's a "feature" with this revolver. I blew mine out with compressed air and relubed.

Third thing, it's not reliable. Misfires will constantly abound, you will get frustrated.

Fourth thing, trade it off or see if you can return it for a refund. If there's a 15% restocking fee to pay, pay it and be glad that you got off easy. You won't get much for a used Taurus.

tinygnat219
August 22, 2008, 12:44 PM
any advice appreciated.

Ok, first thing is to not try to go to a lighter spring. You will get misfires. I swapped the springs out for a lighter one, then swapped it back. I still had the same amount of misfires.

Second thing, it's a Taurus revolver, so crack open that sideplate and look for metal shavings. It's a "feature" with this revolver. I blew mine out with compressed air and relubed.

Third thing, it's not reliable. Misfires will constantly abound, you will get frustrated.

Fourth thing, trade it off or see if you can return it for a refund. If there's a 15% restocking fee to pay, pay it and be glad that you got off easy. You won't get much for a used Taurus.

MCgunner
August 22, 2008, 12:59 PM
Who the HELL uses a .22 for self defense? That said, who the HELL shoots at a rabbit using DA? I frankly don't care that every DA .22 revolver I've ever fired including Rugers (even center fire Rugers suck out of the box) and Smiths have heavy triggers, even a K22 Masterpiece.

I have a little stainless Rossi 511 Kit Gun and it's a dandy, very accurate, DA sux, big deal, SA is budda. It's a "knock about" gun and even shoots the occasional squirrel, very accurate. If I didn't have the Rossi, I wouldn't hesitate to try the Taurus. I have 3 centerfires that are awesome.

All .22s will misfire occasionally, nature of rimfire. I get much fewer misfires in all my .22s with CCI. Of the ammo I use, Federal Lightening bulk pack is the worst. My Ruger Mk 2 will misfire a couple out of every range trip, have a Ramline Exactor that is fine with CCI and will NOT fire more than 5 out of a mag of 15 of Federal. The Rossi fires 'em pretty reliably, rarely a misfire. My thought is that the rather large, round firing pin tip dents more of the rim on firing and is less apt to hit a dry spot in the priming. My rifles are the same way, some CCI always fires, Federal not so much. But the federal is accurate and CHEAP!

One word of advice that always seems to work for me, my mama always told me this. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. If I'd believed all the BBS bashing of Taurus I've read, I'd not have three of the best centerfire revolvers I've ever owned right now. Actually, I could say that about Ruger, Kel Tec, and Rossi just off the cuff. Go over to the autoloader forum and tell 'em you like Ruger P guns or the Kel Tec P11. Sheesh!

tinygnat219
August 22, 2008, 01:56 PM
MCgunner,

My Taurus 94 experiences were based on one that I owned. Of the 7 I have had, all 7 have been junk. I think that's a reasonable sample size to draw conclusions about the quality of their product.

JR47
August 22, 2008, 02:30 PM
You've owned SEVEN Model 94 pistols? Talk about a glutton for punishment.

Perhaps the problem lies with expectations, rather than performance. Have you had any better luck with anyone else's pistols?

Sounds to me as though you'd be much better off with a semi-automatic for your style of shooting.

Weren't you, and this story, over on RimfireCentral before? I've only heard about the "metal shavings in the action" once before. That's pretty hard to believe that you've purchased seven Model 94 revolvers over the years, and ALL of them had these mystical metal shavings in them. Got any pictures?

Depending on the brand of .22 ammo, and the position in their price line, mis-fires are all too common in the lower price range.

NO .22 revolver should have it's springs replaced to lighten the trigger pull, unless you WANT mis-fires, or are using true target ammo.

MCgunner
August 22, 2008, 02:33 PM
My Taurus 94 experiences were based on one that I owned. Of the 7 I have had, all 7 have been junk. I think that's a reasonable sample size to draw conclusions about the quality of their product.

I take it by "junk" you mean they didn't work? Did you bother to even look at 'em before purchase? I'm three for three to the good so far and I won't hesitate to buy another, but I don't buy anything without lookin' it over.

I see too much "it's junk, it cracked a forcing cone" with Taurus, but OTOH, "it cracked a forcing cone, but I got it fixed and it's golden now" when talkin' about Smith and Wesson. :rolleyes:

FLA2760
August 22, 2008, 03:08 PM
I bought a stainless 94 UL a few years back as a plinker. Not a bit of trouble. HKS makes a speedloader for it too. Faster reloads at the range/woods ;) I would not rely on a .22 as a primary self defense gun if I were you.

BOB D
August 22, 2008, 11:44 PM
I've had a stainless Rossi 4" .22, a Taurus 94, and I now have a S&W mod 34 4" .22. I gave the Rossi to my youngest son, and I sold the 94 They all work fine and the only problems I had were with powder binding up the action of the Rossi after a lot of shooting. I got rid of the 94 because the hammer spur was too short and was a pain in single action mode. Luck must have been with me because I found both the Taurus and the Rossi to be very accurate. I do like the 34 better though.

Deadmanwalking_05
August 23, 2008, 01:35 AM
Are there any checkered service grips made for the model 94?

I'm thinking about trying to find a faux ivory or real ivory set designed like the S&W wooden service grips.

(I think both would make the model 94 look good and feel familiar.)

JD_Ruger_fan
August 23, 2008, 03:36 AM
I bought the 94 over at another forum and I got a lemon. :( I'm going to have to send it back to Taurus because the cylinder gets stuck. I knew that there was a chance I'd get a lemon going in since I was buying online, so I'm not too terribly disappointed. However, I did get to shoot it and found it was very accurate. It went exactly where I pointed it, so I don't understand the accuracy criticisms. I also really loved the feel of it, even more so than a 617 I handled a while back. It is quite slim and sexy! Once I get it back, if I don't have any more problems, I can see it being a great gun. However, I will have to work on that double action pull. It's quite rough, but my other gun is a P6 so it's almost a cake walk by comparison. Another complaint people had is that the sights are small, but I didn't think it was an issue.

I think as long as you do your research and realize it may take a little to get it in perfect condition; you have patience; and you're looking for a budget piece, the 94 could be a great gun.

Also, this may be a dumb question...but will repeated single action pulls soften the double action? I'd imagine not since it's not going the full way, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

mnrivrat
August 23, 2008, 04:53 AM
You won't get much for a used Taurus.

Goody !! I am a buyer - sell em to me cheap !

I love this religious type debate over the Taurus guns and particularly the Model 94 where the double action trigger pull is demonized with such regularity.

I have two - I have helped my aunt (83 yrs young) in the purchase of two. SO my experience is with 4 samples. Nothing to whine about here. I've had them all 4 apart, I have put lighter trigger springs in a couple of them. (do not lighten the hammer spring) . Because of the mechanics of this 9 shot revolver you are not going to get nice light DA actions from them. Should I repeat that ? naw ! You can get them smoother, and you can get a real nice SA trigger from them. They are in my experience fairly nicely finished and solid guns. Particularly for the price you pay.

One of mine I bought at Gander Mountain for $130 :what: it was like new. Thank you to those who think they are not worth much - I will buy them at those cheap prices as long as I can.

I agree with the poster that says who the hell shoots their rabbits using DA ? My 94's serve as varmit and trail type guns, not DA self defense weapons. My aunt being a little arthritic has a little problem cocking hers so I fit them with hammer extensions . Works great for her. (she does use hers for SD - better than the old rolling pin !

Master Blaster
August 23, 2008, 11:14 AM
As far as misfires in a .22lr revolver go, they are caused by the bullet not being fully seated in the cylinder, this can be confirmed by a second hit and the round then firing.
.22lr is a heeled bullet, and the more wax lube it has the more likely you are to get a misfire as the gun gets dirty.

Clean the cylinder charge holes with a brush, that will remove the crud buildup, and improve reliability. Use 22lr copper plated ammo, or ammo with less lube, CCI standard, not green tag which has alot of wax lube. Some folks swear by minimag or stingers, they have no wax lube and are plated, and slightly undersized. In a .22lr the heeled bullet actually touches the cylinder walls unlike a modern jacketed bullet that sits inside the case. This is the cause of most .22lr misfires the round not being fully seated, and the rim not in contact with the cylinder shoulder.

I have found federal bulk pack copper plated to be very reliable, out of the last three packs of 550 I haven't had one single dud round.

MCgunner
August 23, 2008, 12:36 PM
My Rossi gets a little rougher in DA as it gets dirty and starts to bind on dirty ammo residue. Not a biggy. I just wipe it off at the range, clean it up. It's not a problem in SA or in field use, just makes DA a little sticky. Danged accurate little kit gun, though. Federal Lightening shoots into 2" at 25 yards off the bench and if I wanna get serious, I can shrink an inch off that with RWS target. That's simply amazing to me in a little cheap kit gun. I had another 511 that got ripped off in a burglary. I found this one at a gun show used. The one that got ripped off wasn't quite as accurate as this one is, thief did me a favor, LOL. Oh, it was good for 2.5" at 25 yards off a rest with most ammo, but the one I have now is squirrel hunting accurate and super easy to tote in the field, love that thing.

Are there any checkered service grips made for the model 94?

I'm thinking about trying to find a faux ivory or real ivory set designed like the S&W wooden service grips.

(I think both would make the model 94 look good and feel familiar.)



www.ajaxgrips.com I got some pearlite grips (fake mother of pearl) for my Rossi 68, pretty sure you can get 'em for the Taurus. I have a Pachmayr Compac on my little .22 Rossi, works well for me.

If I were to get a Smith and Wesson, I'd want an old K22 target masterpiece. My uncle had one when I was a kid and I loved to shoot it, could actually hit what I aimed at with it, unlike my Hawes which was my first handgun, LOL. That K22 was nickel, 6", a sweet shootin' gun. I don't care much for Smith and Wesson new production now days, just too over priced and that gawd aweful hole in the frame, ya know.

Yeah, here ya go..... http://www.ajaxgrips.com/ajax/ajax?set=05
http://www.ajaxgrips.com/ajax/ajax?set=04
http://www.ajaxgrips.com/ajax/ajax?set=22

Deadmanwalking_05
August 23, 2008, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the help.

tinygnat219
August 25, 2008, 10:38 PM
JR47,

You've owned SEVEN Model 94 pistols? Talk about a glutton for punishment.

Nope, 7 Different Taurus pistols all over their line. 2 of those were .22 LR were the Taurus 94 and PT22. Both were crap.

tinygnat219
August 25, 2008, 10:44 PM
MCGunner,

I take it by "junk" you mean they didn't work? Did you bother to even look at 'em before purchase? I'm three for three to the good so far and I won't hesitate to buy another, but I don't buy anything without lookin' it over.
Yup. They didn't work, either had parts break repeatedly on them, metal shavings fall out from beneath sideplates, or failure for the guns to return to battery. All were complete and utter failures. As you can see, I gave Taurus 7different chances with my cash. There won't be an 8th. As for checking them out, 6 of these were NIB and seemed "ok" :rolleyes: when I checked them for form fit and function. However, I learned the hard way that gun store owners don't like you taking a screwdriver to the sideplate to check for shavings.

I try to dissuade people from making the same mistakes with a company that makes a crap product like these. It's up to them to disregard or not.

JR47
August 26, 2008, 12:28 PM
That WAS you on RimfireCentral! You've learned, and cleaned up your story some, reads almost like the truth.

They didn't work, either had parts break repeatedly on them, metal shavings fall out from beneath sideplates, or failure for the guns to return to battery.

A true compendium of problems. Before, you could tell that there were metal shavings in the action, even though you couldn't get the side plate off. Now, they're falling out beneath the side plate.

I'm glad that altruism drives this ever-expanding tale of woe. Otherwise, one could be accused of trolling.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
August 26, 2008, 02:24 PM
Are you guys for real who complain about the DA trigger pull? Who ever uses DA mode in a .22 revolver - ever? Why would you? The 94 has an excellent SA pull, and that is all that matters. It is also well-made and accurate. The grips ARE very small, but I like them.

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