Thank you, Steve!


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Dirty Bob
June 29, 2008, 03:01 AM
Our esteemed member, sm, got me lusting after youth model single shots, and I recently picked up a 20ga. NEF SB1-25C (youth model, 22-inch barrel, synthetic stocks, screw-in chokes).

This afternoon, I was showering (getting ready to go to the opera downtown) and looked out the window to see a guy in our backyard! I watched long enough to determine he was probably a cable guy or telephone guy, but I was not certain.

I scrambled out of the shower, listened, and didn't hear anyone in the house (and didn't expect to), so I did a quick, naked recon to be sure, and to verify that there was a work truck outside. I could have gotten out a high-cap 9mm, but much quicker and quieter to reach was that 20ga.

With the shotgun in my hands and an extra buckshot shell between the fingers of my left hand, I felt much more confident I could handle whatever came along. I also know that I'm faster in hitting a human-sized target with a shotgun than with a handgun. I don't have many rounds through this particular gun, but that will change very soon.

Anyway, thanks to sm, I now have another tool in my toolbox. I would not choose it for clearing a house, but it was nice to have along when checking out the situation today. I'll probably be recommending these little guns to friends.

Regards,
Dirty Bob

BTW:
The reason I freaked is that we keep our gates locked, and our house, like many, is easier to break into in the back than in the front. I later found that a locked I'd closed earlier today hadn't "clicked." The cable dude reached over the top of the fence and slipped it out of the latch mechanism. I locked and double-checked it before heading to the opera.

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TimboKhan
June 29, 2008, 03:16 AM
Wait a minute... Your name is "Dirty Bob", your doing naked recons of your house, you listen to Steve and your going to operas? Any one of those things on it's own makes sense, but put together? Wow...

:neener:

sm
June 29, 2008, 03:51 AM
Sarah Brady, eat your heart out.
You don't get replies on your forum like I do.

*puffs chest*

Dirty Bob
June 29, 2008, 10:31 AM
Real men...do go to the opera.

The short-barreled youth model single shot is nearly as short as my 870 with the barrel removed. Some practice with it has shown me that it isn't difficult to run with just one hand, and it's light enough to fire from the shoulder one-handed -- something I'm going to practice very soon. If I ever had to use a shotgun at home -- outside of a forted-up bedroom scenario -- it would not be a bad choice, and certainly a better choice than my looooong-barreled pump.

The youth model single shot is:

Light - can be held ready for a long time, or shouldered and fired one-handed
Quick in the hands
Sleek - there's no grenade launcher, phased plasma emitter or other cosmetic pimp junk on the muzzle for an assailant to grab, or to slow things down ;)
Safe - the user can be sure - quietly and quickly - if the gun is loaded, and it can be rendered safe by opening

Not the best tool, not the only tool, but a useful tool.

All my best,
Dirty Bob

Grandpa Shooter
June 29, 2008, 11:34 AM
What was the cable guy doing illegally entering your property? If he removed a lock from a standard locking mechanism and knowingly trespassed, I'd be calling the cable company.

CrawdaddyJim
June 29, 2008, 11:48 AM
When you sign up with a utility you sign a form that gives them permission to come on to your property to maintain equipment and to cut you off if you don't pay your bill.

DB your bills are paid up right? :D

Dirty Bob
June 29, 2008, 11:48 AM
What was the cable guy doing illegally entering your property? If he removed a lock from a standard locking mechanism and knowingly trespassed, I'd be calling the cable company.
He rang the bell (which I didn't hear, being in the shower). He was upgrading service for my next-door neighbor and was looking for the big cable box that serves multiple homes. It's on the edge of my property. I'm not happy about it, but I'm more angry with myself for not closing that lock properly. Had he climbed the fence, I would have complained.

As it was, he sorta' did me a favor by pointing out a hole in my security. :cuss:

Feelin' stupid,
Dirty Bob

MaterDei
June 29, 2008, 11:57 AM
Real men...do go to the opera.

Ummmm...no.

Symphony, yes.

Ballet, maybe.

Opera, no. ;)

sm
June 29, 2008, 12:50 PM
Real men...do go to the opera.

I admit Opera is not my thing, I like live Theatre, and always have.
Still I respect Dirty Bob's right to attend the Opera.

A serious concern was handled and lessons were learned.

We don't need no stinkin' body armor, we gots single shots and rubber ducky's !

sixgunner455
June 29, 2008, 01:43 PM
Real man does what he wants when it comes to watching a movie, going to an opera, ballet, or whatever, and doesn't let the opinions anon web posters thumping there chests about real men change his mind.

The little woman might change his mind, but her opinion matters. A bunch, usually. :D

Dirty Bob
June 29, 2008, 03:15 PM
Operas like "Tosca" might change your mind. When a baron (who's the chief of police) comes to rape Tosca (he'd threatened to execute her lover to gain her "consent"), she talks him into a safe-passage letter for herself and her lover. Then she stabs him with his own steak knife (Questo e il bacio di Tosca! - This is Tosca's kiss!) that she'd stolen while he was writing out the letter. Tough-minded woman.

Opera's full of more double-crosses, larceny and mayhem than some Tarantino movies, if you choose the right operas. Besides, my wife is a big fan of opera. :D

Tosca is long enough -- at 2 hours, 30 minutes, with two intermissions -- that I had plenty of time to enjoy a cocktail and think about shotguns. :evil:

Regards,
Dirty Bob

chas08
June 29, 2008, 03:47 PM
Tosca is long enough -- at 2 hours, 30 minutes, with two intermissions -- that I had plenty of time to enjoy a cocktail and think about shotguns.

(LOL) The above statement clears up that whole "Real Man" issue for me. :D

sm
June 29, 2008, 04:52 PM
1. Dirty Bob accompanies his wife , a "real live girl" to the opera, and enjoys a well written work with talented and gifted performers, and gets to take his wife, a "real live" girl home, where he has a single shot shotgun.


2. UltimateExtremistTack-Ticke posts pictures on teh Intrawebz of his curb feeler, fuzzy diced, duck butted, Casper the tack-tickle ghost sighted with laser beams and death ray range finder Teem Anteater Shotgun; which has
no wear marks, as it costs too much to shoot ExoticaExtrema Tasmanian 4 3/4" loadings of 0000000000 buck shot at watermelons, plus the fact some "real live" girl might actually say "hi" to them actually being out in public.


Like I said, this ain't rocket science!


*sticks tongue out*

Gord
June 29, 2008, 05:03 PM
plus the fact some "real live" girl might actually say "hi" to them actually being out in public.


What do you think the smoke grenades on my chest rig are for? :neener:

PJR
June 29, 2008, 05:16 PM
Ummmm...no.

Symphony, yes.

Ballet, maybe.

Opera, no.
Just one name will convince you otherwise.

Richard Wagner. The Ride of the Valkeries was more than just scoring for the helicopter attack in Apocalypse Now. ;)

bikerdoc
June 29, 2008, 05:26 PM
Some of you may be as crusty a curmugeon as me, but we all love and protect what is ours and will do anything to make them safe and happy.
years ago my daughter studied Ballet at the the local ballet company and school. She comes home one day and says they need male extras for some performance, Don Quiote, I think but Im not sure any way after all the please daddy please, longhaired bearded biker,with a bad attitude about most of society, that is not gun friendly, a vet, or just plain uppity, finds himself in tights and some kind of brocaded tight thing with a collar that would choke a mule, carrying a lance and standing in position one. that was it, the whole peformance. Did the whole thing with a snub nose 38 in my draws
Like steve said it aint rocket science

cant wait for the granddaughter to ask
And no there are no pictures and no one ever made fun me.

JShirley
June 29, 2008, 05:33 PM
I remember years ago, when I was just getting old enough to be left alone at the house (that age was probably younger than many folk today would believe). Mom & Dad were gone, and I started feeling spooked.

I got my H&R Topper, Jr. and held it. Didn't load it.

But I knew how to load and use it, and it sure helped a frightened little boy feel better. I put it up when I heard M&D drive up.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 29, 2008, 05:41 PM
Sarah Brady, eat your heart out.
You don't get replies on your forum like I do.

Hmmm, it'd be nice if her son posted there and said "Thanks for the turnbolt illegally straw-purchased for me, Mom, but I really wanted an AR15."

But congrats, Dirty Bob!

DaleCooper51
June 29, 2008, 06:22 PM
For the last three years, I have been the IT manager at a restored vaudville theatre. I have grown to appreciate some of the shows, but didn't even know what a chorus was when I started there. Tosca was a good one. On the other hand, Rent pissed me off and I wanted to scream get a job during that show. Another treat was menopause the musical. Yes it was as bad as it sounded, but at least I was getting paid to be there for all 6 performances.

Last winter while I was out deer hunting, I got the emergency page and had to hustle into the office to fix the server. People looked at me like I had 3 eyes when I walked into the office wearing my camo bubba suit.

gp911
June 29, 2008, 06:50 PM
I had the same reaction to Rent as Dale up there... Awful.

Imagine the look on the burglar's face when a grown man wearing nothing but suds clacks shut his single shot and says "Freeze or I'll show you where I'm hidin' my tactical reload!"

I too have been one of the naked guardians of the household. :D The initial embarassment goes away when I realize I have the element of surprise working double for me. Might slow 'em down an extra step while I travel unfettered and unhampered (though also unsupported! :eek:) by clothing...

So, did you buy the synthetic stock version so the finish would hold up better while stowed in the shower caddy?

gp911

Robert Hairless
June 29, 2008, 07:10 PM
I remember years ago, when I was just getting old enough to be left alone at the house (that age was probably younger than many folk today would believe). Mom & Dad were gone, and I started feeling spooked.

I got my H&R Topper, Jr. and held it. Didn't load it.

But I knew how to load and use it, and it sure helped a frightened little boy feel better. I put it up when I heard M&D drive up.

And today Mom & Dad could be arrested for leaving you alone and giving you access to a shotgun and ammunition. From what I read in this forum, that would come after you shot your playmates, the neighbors, maybe your parents, and then yourself.

All of which is evidence that today's Mom & Dad know much more about parenting than yours or mine or the parents of all preceding generations. Today's parents invest in safes and trigger locks. Much smarter than investing in kids. They understand the safes and trigger locks. :scrutiny:

sm
June 29, 2008, 08:31 PM
It is that thanks you.

True and I still get a lumpy throat, moist eyes and big grin.

As many are aware of, I choose to assist single ladies, single moms, kids, physically limited and elderly.

Years ago there was a group of single ladies, single moms and kids, that had been through tough times, some more serious than others.

These folks have been victims, hurt, beaten, sexually assaulted, and abused.
Life is life and life is hard.

As happens, we all get pretty close. Earned trust and baby steps in healing.
Some...have to get past some things, like a male, with a gun or knife, that was a "bad man" , or "mean person".

This is what I choose to do, and why I never give out anymore information about them, than I do.

Kids, are into .22 single shot rifles, bigger kids into single shot shotguns.
Fact is, some ladies were given a single shot, and fast tracked in how to use in under 30 minutes. Restraining orders are just pieces of paper...
I and mine fast track with Model 10 and other medium frame revolvers in 38spl as well.

How raised -what you do as Mentors were doing this when I was a brat in the mid 50's, and was right there helping them, assist such folks.

I have been at this for a bit...

Good folks, and truly humbled and appreciative. They get past all the bad and they in like turn assist another and pass forward.

Now we had a great time with single shot shotguns and messing with the pattern board one day.
I mean these folks, from the smallest kid on up, really "got into it" as far as patterning shotguns.
I had some reloaders set up, and pretty cool reloading a hull and shooting it again.

"We are going to see Swiss Family Robinson at the Children's Theatre" - I announced one day.
Oh. My. Goodness!

They all knew I liked Live Theatre and were so excited about attending.

Funny.
"Do we have to dress up?"
"I don't want to wear a stupid dress"
"Aw man! Do I have to get a dumb old hair cut?"

Kids were being kids.

"Nope, just casual stuff, be neat and clean, and use manners. Don't be nervous, chill and we have a good time!"

"What are you going to wear?" the kids asked.
I was expecting this, as I new a one single mom and kid had very little and were rebuilding lives. The ex had stolen stuff like clothes and burned them.
[for an idea now low life some folks can be, and what I deal with at times]

"Well my standard deal is cordovan penny loafers, cordavan belt khaki pants, blue oxford shirt".

They broke down cried when I said we were going shopping, and it was not going to cost them anything.
Private folks was picking up the tab, and...it got real blubbery .

The kids wanted to dress like I said I was going to.
Just imagine little Steve clones, both boys and girls. It was both funny and blubbery.

One little girl sat there and flat balled her eyes out when she got her shoes.
Her daddy had taken her new shoes , penny loafers like these, about a year or so early , and cut them up and tossed them in fire place.
Tear drops just plopping as I stuck some new pennies her shoes.
I thought she was going to break my neck, when she hugged me.

Other clothes were bought, a nice meal in a "real restaurant" and they could have "whatever they wanted".
This will break you heart.
All this arranged, private folks picking up the tab and folks assisting in stores and everywhere, were the nicest, most understanding folks.


I and mine had arranged to visit the Theatre during the day to check it out.
We got a private tour of what all goes on back stage and everything.
Everyone just ate this up, especially the kids.

Now at the range, I had a youth, single shot .410 I used for an instructors tool.
Just the way I do it.
Awerbuck uses a red gun, I use a single shot youth shotgun.

I had a slew of primer only hulls and that gun had a goofy paint job, also part of my way of doing things.
This one was "muscle car" paint scheme. Yellow with two black racing stripes.


The night of the Performance, we arrive and the nice Theatre folks had a surprise for the kids.
(We had not told the kids this).

"We have some seats on the stage, would any of you kids like to sit on the stage, and be right there, watching the play?"

This totally blew their minds, being invited up on the stage!
We had great seats but...oh no! What to do?

Some of the bigger kids went up on stage, smaller ones, just felt better being with moms and the rest of us adults.


This performance has swords, knives and the first time a gun went "BANG!" Folks jumped!
The adults, teenagers, and kid performers were running around with real stuff, and the smoke and gun powder was in the air.

The kids were wide eyed. Hanging o to the seat in front of them in total awe!

Then all of a sudden a bunch of "little Steve clones" both on stage and in the audience, all point and "wook!".

That yellow with two black racing stripes .410 single shot shotgun was on stage, with this live performance of Swiss Family Robinson!

This was was for the kids, the single gals, the single moms.
They all recognized that gun.
The audience?
Heck, nobody caught it, it was "our" special thing.

We all had a good time, and later on, we caught a afternoon , private rehearsal, and the kids got to be go on stage and do small things.
Backstage, they hit levers, switches and stuff back there too.


There is more to responsible firearm ownership than just firearms.

The Wiry Irishman
June 29, 2008, 09:04 PM
2. UltimateExtremistTack-Ticke posts pictures on teh Intrawebz of his curb feeler, fuzzy diced, duck butted, Casper the tack-tickle ghost sighted with laser beams and death ray range finder Teem Anteater Shotgun; which has
no wear marks, as it costs too much to shoot ExoticaExtrema Tasmanian 4 3/4" loadings of 0000000000 buck shot at watermelons, plus the fact some "real live" girl might actually say "hi" to them actually being out in public.

It would have been quicker just to type "arfcom member"

sixgunner455
June 29, 2008, 09:42 PM
Hey, I'm an arfcom member. That's where I learned how to build a rifle all on my lonesome.




Can't remember the last time I logged in there, though...

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