Ankle Holsters?????


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The_Sheriff
June 30, 2008, 12:38 AM
Hello Everyone,

I just picked up a Disanti ankle holster in nylon from Cabelas.com and was planning on carrying it with cowboy boots on and a taurus 85 inside shooting Hornady .38 special XTP ammo. What does everyone think of that? Any comments?

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Solo Flyer
June 30, 2008, 12:42 AM
Any comments?

Negative.Ankle holsters to me are too slow,too much of a last resort.
Other options are more viable,IMO.

justin 561
June 30, 2008, 12:43 AM
They should only be a last resort if you happen to lose your primary in a struggle or what not.

paintballdude902
June 30, 2008, 12:43 AM
my problem with ankle holsters is that i wear shorts and flip flops all year .....heck i went bear hunting in flip flops lol

sounds like it would work but be sure that you can reach the gun with the boots on

The_Sheriff
June 30, 2008, 12:48 AM
Ok, I live in a good area and I am very alert and know whats going on. My plans invlove finding cover and then drawing my weapon whenever possible.

justin 561
June 30, 2008, 12:52 AM
No matter how good or safe your place of residence is, you still need something more in reach. I'd not want to have to find cover while bending down before I had a chance to return fire.

The_Sheriff
June 30, 2008, 12:54 AM
Yes, I will go out to the forest one of these days and try some fast draw with it. Does anyone have any experience with Hornady ammo?

skywarp_
June 30, 2008, 12:55 AM
With boot cut jeans you're going to have to find cover, tug up tighter pants, get down to the gun (leaving yourself in a horrible non maneuverable position), dig it out of your boot, present the firearm and finally fire.



Unless you're doing the ambushing, you're done.


don't just go to the woods and stand there statically drawing. it's ok for practice but a horrible representation. Run hard for 10-15 min to get the blood pumping, mind racing, and your body anywhere remotely resembling the less than ideal conditions you'll be in in a bad situation

The_Sheriff
June 30, 2008, 12:59 AM
I actually wear the relaxed fit wranglers skywarp

jrfoxx
June 30, 2008, 01:01 AM
if my absolutely only choice was ankle carry, or no carry, I'd pick ankle carry.That said, I cant personally think of a reason why ankle carry would be my only option (doesnt mean a reason may not exist, but I'm drawing a blank), so I'd go with some other type of carry.But, thats just me.If it's what works best for you, then more power to you.

tpaw
June 30, 2008, 01:07 AM
I wear an ankle holster at times. Although it's not the best method of carrying, it's better than not carrying at all. If you practice enough, you can become very proficient with it. I can snap my leg up and draw faster then some who carry inside the pants holsters, or the ones that fit in your private area. The only benifit I see with an ankle holster is, if you squat down to get your firearm, your making yourself a smaller target. Just hope the other guy is slower than you.......;)

insidious_calm
June 30, 2008, 01:13 AM
I regularly carry a G26 BUG in an Alessi ankle holster (far and away THE best ankle holster IMHO), and rarely, carry that as primary when the situation calls for deeper concealment. Concealment is a tradeoff with speed of deployment. The deeper the concealment the slower to deploy. Ankle holsters are good for BUGs. They are very good concealment as well, but slow to deploy. If you do get an ankle holster practice A LOT with your unloaded gun. Deployment from an ankle holster takes a bunch of practice to get right, and it still take several seconds to do. Better than not having a gun w/ you at all, but IWB would likely better suit your primary carry needs.


I.C.

skywarp_
June 30, 2008, 01:28 AM
I actually wear the relaxed fit wranglers skywarp


Jeans still fit tighter on the ankle than say slacks and the denim is a heavier material and more likely to bind while pushing it up than slacks.


No offense intended.


It's still a tough carry.

Mil-Spec45
June 30, 2008, 01:30 AM
I think it was Todd Jarret who was showing all the different styles of drawing from concealed. He said if you can't pull a gun in less then a second or two, then you shouldn't carry that way. The only style that took longer was a leg pant-pocket style of carry. The ankle holster is just as fast as the others with practice.

I'll carry ankle sometimes, but only with a 3rd gun. That way you have your primary and BUG, but you also have a BUBUG.

ShooterMcGavin
June 30, 2008, 06:18 AM
That said, I cant personally think of a reason why ankle carry would be my only option
Most of my time carrying is spent using an ankle holster.... and that's my primary :eek: :) I work in a gun-unfriendly environment. If I were made, I have no question that I would be looking for a new job immediately. In fact, guns are prohibited from within employees cars. If they allowed guns within cars, then I would lock my gun in my car and not carry into work. The reason I will violate the rule to carry into work and not simply lock my gun in my car is because I think there is a greater chance of my car being broken into and my gun stolen from there. If I reported a gun as being stolen from the car at work, I'd probably lose my job. The safest place for my gun is in my holster and on my person.

Work is "safe" - from the public at least. We have badge access and I do not feel a need to carry within work. I have a short commute through "good" neighborhoods. However, leaving my gun at home means that I am without my gun for the entire day... if I want to go out to lunch, shopping later, see a friend after work, etc.

I DO agree with those who say that ankle carry is less than ideal. However, the alternative for me is to leave my gun at home. Yes, once in a while I will dress differently and I am able to carry in another manner, but it is summer and I don't want to wear a long-sleave shirt every day. It's what I have to put up with.

Linda
June 30, 2008, 08:46 AM
OK, for a back up gun, better yet, your 3rd gun, but puts you in a very vulnerable position to retrieve the gun. Also, imagine wearing an ankle weight just on one leg everyday.

Ok, I live in a good area and I am very alert and know whats going on.

What's a good area? Where crime doesn't happen? Sorry, crime happens anywhere and everywhere.

My plans invlove finding cover and then drawing my weapon whenever possible.

You do not get to pick the day that you are a victim, the criminal does. Chances are, you will be out in the open where there is no cover, so your "plan" has failed already. Drawing your weapon "whenever possible" is a pretty scary thought. If I can not access my weapon at the instant that I NEED it, I am dead or at the very least, I'd best be doing some alternative moves.

As I recall, you're not 21 yet, so can't carry??? This is a great time to go take several training classes, so that when you turn 21 and get your license/permit, you will be ready with the proper training and mindset.

strat81
June 30, 2008, 11:26 AM
At work, my primary carry is a G26 on my ankle. Tuckable holsters don't work well for me, and dress code would prohibit other types of waist carry. Thunderwear seems about as slow as ankle carry.

On the plus side, I drive a desk for a living, so I have pretty easy access to it for 90% of the day.

As for Hornady ammo, I carry Hornady 124gr 9mm TAP FPD. It feeds and functions well. I've never shot anything besides paper with it.

gym
June 30, 2008, 11:33 AM
I wore one at work for 22 years with Cowboy boots. It was the only way for me to have a gun on me without anyone seeing it as I worked in a shirt and dress pants or jeans. It was really what I call Storage. Meaning I didn't have to leave it in my desk, and it was always with me. As far as that goes, if there is no other way then it's better than nothing. I always practiced being able to get it if I had to, but the only way would be to sneak it out if you were in a holdup. Oh yea that comment about "a good neighboorhood", I had 2 attemted carjackings and a home invasion all in good neighboorhoods, that's where bad guys go to get good stuff.

Phil DeGraves
June 30, 2008, 11:41 AM
Ankle holsters are bad for several reasons.
1. Accessability as has been discussed.
2. Security - guns have a lot harder time staying on the ankle than they do on the hip. The gun is exposed more to the elements (deep snow, rain, etc.) than on the hip. In a physical altercation, you may first be required to go hand to hand (since you'll have a hard time drawing from the ankle). If it gets to be a ground fight as many altercations do, the bad guy may end up closer to your gun than you do, and he is going to attempt to grab you around the ankles to knock you down. "Oh, look what I found!"

tpaw
June 30, 2008, 08:00 PM
In a physical altercation, you may first be required to go hand to hand (since you'll have a hard time drawing from the ankle). If it gets to be a ground fight as many altercations do, the bad guy may end up closer to your gun than you do, and he is going to attempt to grab you around the ankles to knock you down. "Oh, look what I found!"

In a face off, or as you put it, hand to hand, the bad guy can grap it off your waist as well. With practice drawing from the ankle is not hard. I can snap my leg up draw and shoot in just about 2 seconds. With practice, anyone can accomplish that. The trick is not to bend down and reach for it, bring the leg up and draw. Try it, you'll be surprised how good you can become with practice. Make sure the weapon is unloaded...;)

kcshooter
July 1, 2008, 04:20 PM
Get a pocket holster. If you think two or three seconds won't make a difference in a SD encounter, you're way wrong.
As for the plan to take cover, then draw when you are able to, well, the thing about plans is the actual situations you plan for seldom work out the way you expected them to.

hankdatank1362
July 1, 2008, 04:38 PM
I'll often carry a J-frame in an ankle holster as a BUG, or as primary when I need deep concealment and I happen to be wearing long pants.

Which is not too often in Myrtle Beach.

tpaw
July 1, 2008, 06:31 PM
Get a pocket holster

I use a DeSantis pocket holster with my Glock 26. The holster is excellent, it stays in the pocket when you draw. My problem is that it takes me longer to get it out than any other holster I use. I have to grab the firearm with my thumb and first two fingers, and then readjust my grip once it's out. If I had a bad guy drawing on me, I'm afraid I lose unless I had the element of surprise.

kcshooter
July 1, 2008, 07:04 PM
If I had a bad guy drawing on me, I'm afraid I lose unless I had the element of surprise.True, but do you think an ankle holster would be any better?

tpaw
July 1, 2008, 07:54 PM
True, but do you think an ankle holster would be any better

Yes, read my other post, #20.

ArchAngelCD
July 1, 2008, 09:39 PM
I'm a big fan of carrying a J frame size revolver in the front pocket. I do not like ankle carry at all.

kcshooter
July 1, 2008, 11:43 PM
Tpaw, I think with some practice you will find there is no way to consistantly draw from an ankle hoster as fast as a pocket holster. If you are that fast with an ankle holster, you must have put a lot of practice time into it. I think if you put the same effort into practicing with a pocket holster, you'll be even faster.

tpaw
July 2, 2008, 12:06 AM
Tpaw, I think with some practice you will find there is no way to consistantly draw from an ankle hoster as fast as a pocket holster. If you are that fast with an ankle holster, you must have put a lot of practice time into it. I think if you put the same effort into practicing with a pocket holster, you'll be even faster.

35 years worth of practice time. As for pocket holsters, I have very large hands, pocket holsters are not for me although I use one occasionally. I have enough trouble just getting keys out of my pocket.

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