Post your Favorite WWI/WWII blade. Marine Raider,Smachet,OSS/CIA type stuff,etc.


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Eric Draven
July 1, 2008, 05:46 AM
Hi everyone...I am a huge fan of the OSS knives from the different wars and I am a big fan of the V-42 Daggers...I wanted to post some pics of the various cool stuff I have held and gotten to experiment with here. Some pics of things I havent help but I like so theyll be here too. If any of you have a fav WWI/WWII knives or bayonets, OSS/CIA items, SAS, SBS, or any other types of Blades from any military conflict that you love, own, or have actually carried/used...Please feel free to post pics and tell us about it. :)

I would love to know more.

I find that the Daggers of WWII are very similar...Marine Raider, Sykes/Fairbairn, British Commando, V-42, Black Devils, Camp-X Dagger,
etc. (I'm sure there's more I am forgetting.)

I'll start....
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/X_dagger_1-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/NZCampX4-1.jpg
Heres a 'Camp-X Dagger'...if any of you know about Camp-X then you know what this is...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/AustralianCommandoKnife1-1.jpg
Aussie Commando Dagger...cool.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/FSsingleedge-1.jpg
Single Edge FS Dagger.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/WWIIOSS-stiletto1.jpg
WWII OSS Stiletto...badarse knife right there.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/OSSInstructorkit--1s.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/PencilStingers-1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Picture103.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/oss_weapon.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/19_coins.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/55f7_3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/05tirepuncturesm.gif
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/SOEPenDaggerF.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/OSSDaggerWrist.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/OSSDaggerHatpin.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/OSSDaggerBoard2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/05ConceledBladeslge.gif
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/05BladeKitlge.gif
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/CIAanaltoolslol.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/05Flip06lge.gif
Some very cool OSS/CIA Weaponry...coin blades,pen knives,spikes, wrist knives, frisk knives, in the 2nd to last pic you see an anal(Final Option)tool kit, yes anal...ouchie...and in the last pic you see a Liberator pistol and an OSS Crossbow with various bolts. Damn quiet and damn deadly weapons. :evil:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/OriginalV-42mint1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/OriginalV-42mint2.jpg
An Original MINT Case V-42...I dont own it,but I darn sure wish I did. I have seen the Mint ones going for 1000's and more.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/HG_Long_Raider2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/HG_Long_Raider1.jpg
Marine Long Raider Dagger....very cool.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/GerberMark2nam.jpg
One of my ALL time favs...Gerber MKII from the 'Nam era. Wicked.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Everitt1knuckknife2.jpg
Everitt Knuckle Knife...Everitt made quite a few knives back in the day. Very cool ones. :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Cuffkeyring3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Cuffkeyring2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Cuffkeyring.jpg
I know its not a blade,but its coooool....an OSS Cuff Key ring. I bet anyone could make one of these very very easily.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/D-DayInvasionKnifeRepro.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/D-DayInvasionKnifeRepro6.jpg
A D-Day Invasion repro knife....

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/smallbh.jpg
A 'Ramshead' Push dagger...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/pengun1.jpg
Example of a pengun...these types were used by OSS/CIA during the WW's.
Many styles and types exist.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/jp.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/g20_3k-23.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/g071.jpg
Some examples of the OSS/CIA Thumb Daggers that were really popular. I like these alot....mant many variations exist.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/bloodsuckingknifejpg.jpg
This is somethign they call a 'bloodsucking' knife...I actually make custom versions of these....really nice and great for popping tires. LOL.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Garrote1.jpg
CIA/OSS Garrote,as with others.many styles sizes and types of these exist...and I am also in the prototyping stage of something along this line. :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Spike-knives.jpg
Heres a cool pic of some of the more neat knives from the WW's. Some of the blades in this pic are repeats of bigger pics above,but some are new.
Cool stuff.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/05Peskattlge.gif
This is the 'Peskatt' weapon....it includes a OTF spike, a retracable Garrote wire, an impact end similar to a blackjak...and other neat stuff.

More pics to come...Hope everyones enjoying this so far. :D

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Eric Draven
July 1, 2008, 06:38 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/CKFrenchNailWoodLS_small.jpg
Heres whats called a 'french nail'...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/PoisonPen.jpg
A Poison Pen...used to inject people covertly.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/wetworxhypo-pen.jpg
Another one of the 'Bloodsucker' pens...got a few of these in production myself. :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/penguns1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/Pen_Gun_01.jpg
More Pen Guns...

hso
July 1, 2008, 07:47 AM
Cool thread, but while the Gerber is a personal fave I don't think is belongs in the poll with "WWI/WWII" knives.

I'd go with the other category because I've always been impressed with the variety and inventiveness of the various "Theater Knives" produced by individual soldiers/sailors who had access to materials and equipment to work them.

Eric Draven
July 1, 2008, 07:54 AM
Niiiice. Good post bro. And youre right. I didnt really think about that gerber until you posted that. They were first used in the 'Nam era IIRC.

Yes/no??

CZ.22
July 1, 2008, 12:44 PM
I like the Fairbairn-Sykes the best. Does anybody know if anybody is still making good quality ones of these?

Joe Demko
July 1, 2008, 01:13 PM
It didn't see production during the war, but my favorite design from the period is the Applegate-Fairbairn. It isn't as mondo-beyondo kewl as many of the other designs, but I admire its clean lines and clarity of purpose.

Browning
July 1, 2008, 02:11 PM
What, no Ka-Bar's on a WWII knife list? I'm astonished!!

How could you possibly forget them? :eek:

http://manicroger.com/images/kbar.jpg

http://www.militarypictures.info/d/1609-6/ka-bar-ww2.JPG

CWL
July 1, 2008, 02:12 PM
All cool stuff I would love to collect... except perhaps the "prison wallet" -although the one containing the equivalent of a small tool shop would probably be handy for prisonbreaks.

hso
July 1, 2008, 03:14 PM
He's just posting daggers. The USMC Fighting/Utility and all the other non daggers are not on the table.

OFT
July 1, 2008, 05:37 PM
I don't believe that the Gerber Mk II was made in those times.

Eric Draven
July 1, 2008, 07:21 PM
Ya you all are right...that knife wasnt made in that era.

Gotta love the KaBar bros....gotta love it!! :D

hso is gonna take the Gerber out of the poll. Maybe we should replace it with the Applegate/Fairbairn?? :)

I feel you on the prision kit...ouch, but(lol) it would come in handy if needed.

Browning
July 2, 2008, 12:13 AM
hso : He's just posting daggers.

I went back and looked at what he said just to be sure and the original post just says 'WWI/WWII knives or bayonets, OSS/CIA items, SAS, SBS, or other types of Blades from any military conflict'. There's nothing in there about limiting the list to just daggers from that particular era.


Eric Draven : Hi everyone...I am a huge fan of the OSS knives from the different wars and I am a big fan of the V-42 Daggers...I wanted to post some pics of the various cool stuff I have held and gotten to experiment with here. Some pics of things I havent help but I like so theyll be here too. If any of you have a fav WWI/WWII knives or bayonets, OSS/CIA items, SAS, SBS, or any other types of Blades from any military conflict that you love, own, or have actually carried/used...Please feel free to post pics and tell us about it.

I would love to know more.

I find that the Daggers of WWII are very similar...Marine Raider, Sykes/Fairbairn, British Commando, V-42, Black Devils, Camp-X Dagger,
etc. (I'm sure there's more I am forgetting.)

I'm just having some fun and joking that the Ka-Bar WWII knife is a pretty big knife to miss.

Pun intended.

alwilliam
July 2, 2008, 10:43 PM
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1729/wetworxhypopenfw5.jpg

My old prototype "flo-master" I made. I WONDER WHERE ITS AT ??? sold it years ago.


Some more oss style item I have made for fun'

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6917/4009bc2.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2162/picture3212rxa8.jpg

Some odd stuff with a few real CIA issue items. NSN listed items !!!

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/3543/picture015zh0.jpg

CZ.22
July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM
Al, is that a drill-bit push dagger?
You psycho commie of course I'm jealous

John-Melb
July 3, 2008, 03:05 AM
Favourite, that's easy the 1907 Bayonet, preferably made at Lithgow.

alwilliam
July 3, 2008, 03:29 AM
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6374/poisonpenqz2.jpg

Look at the design of this 1960s era CIA poison needle of the same general type as issued to F. Gary Powers on his U-2 flight .The grooves filled with saxitoxin.These are very tiny weapons...above pic is deceiving on true size.

The larger "drillbit" version is one of a few simple protoypes,I made up for testing based on a simple gimlet .It uses the same groove design as the above CIA version . Their is a "secret" to make a toxin stay in the grooves....:evil:


Some place I have some excellent pics of the "real" mini version as issued to F.G.P and also the larger version ,even to see a pic of is ULTRA rare.I will look my files over. Its a super weird CIA weapon.

Eric Draven
July 3, 2008, 05:57 AM
Damn cool...I was hoping youd post in this thread AlWill. Youre so knowledgeable about this stuff and I always welcome more knowledge. GREAT work on those tools Al....you did an awesome redition of the originals. And I love that Black Dagger to the far left in your last pic...I know what that is. No mistaking that one. ;) Keep it up Al...you got alot to share.

'Browning' is right...I did mention knives as well as daggers, But 'hso' was right too...the poll was limited to daggers and the dagger style of knife. So you were both correct. :)

LOL...youre right also Browning...I did miss the KaBar...very very big prolific knife to miss. Doh. My bad... :)

ALRIGHT GUYZ....KEEP THE PICS AND STUFF COMIN!!

Eric Draven
July 3, 2008, 06:45 AM
Heres a few more cool ones...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/818711.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/wrist_30_1.jpg

And since we're posting other cool OSS/CIA stuff...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/MiniFS3.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/rolex-spy-watch.jpg

alwilliam
July 3, 2008, 12:11 PM
Thanks Bro...While I may know a small bit about odd items my mfg skills are way low.:uhoh: That where you come in.:D



Heres a prototype I did for a guy years ago, based on the bond garrotte watch.It really worked well....I was surprised.

Dial is false..just paper but it works to create the illusion. Wire is high strength stainless tiger tail with a nylon coating .Inside reel is all custom.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4889/picture3120wl4.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4208/picture3124wc6.jpg


Here are a couple of prototype watchband wrist sheaths...done for another person for use with hideaway knives and another custom dagger I made. Based on soe wrist dagger type sheaths.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9920/hakwrist23bj6.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3125/hakwrist26la7.jpg


and to wrap it up a "credit card "gun...Darn thing really works .

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6756/odd604ak6.jpg

Eric Draven
July 5, 2008, 09:57 AM
Darn right thats where I come in. :) Although I would argue that youre selling yourself short AlWill....I think youve got amazing potential...and youve done GREAT work so far.

I would LOVE to do a small run of 15 watches like that...or with a lil blade in them. You say manufacturing is where I come in,design of a watch and the mech. behind making it work RIGHT is where YOU come in bro. :D

Lets do it.

alwilliam
July 6, 2008, 06:16 PM
You want RARE here it is...REAL CIA suicide/L item and its big brother that was used as a assassination tool .



http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8154/ciagppin6ir8.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5360/ciagppin2mc1.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7990/ciagppin1bb3.jpg

Eric Draven
July 6, 2008, 06:30 PM
Wow...now THATS RARE!! I'll tell ya, them CIA/OSS techs are some savvy,B.A. dudes. Can you imagine being inside their shop?? All the cool stuff you'd find. Hubba hubba.

Maybe you can answer me something Alwilliam...I have seen these little hooked spikes in the OSS/CIA kits and such for awhjile now,but other than whats obvious,what else are they for?? I get that they can be used for stabbing or hooking flesh,or even using that hook to brace for stabbing like a pushdagger,but is there something I am missing?? A specific purpose?
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/SOEHookStickerCordHandleR-1.jpg

That pin/pen is Truly a cool find ALwill. Thanx for posting that!! :D (I sent you a PM...have a look.)

Heres a few more goodies...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/SOERamHornStickerR-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b286/AirkatKnives/Other%20Knives/05PencilWeaponlge.gif

Enjoy...

loandr.
July 6, 2008, 09:16 PM
U guys R scary :evil:

Russ

alwilliam
July 6, 2008, 11:32 PM
Good stuff !


Hooks are to aid in withdraw;)

loandr.
July 6, 2008, 11:49 PM
actually a modified Twine cutter in rendition of, by one of our Foster brothers, of all people :-).....:cool:

Eric Draven
July 7, 2008, 08:13 PM
Awesoem stuff loandr. Keep it up. :) I have a few of them 'handy twine knives' myself bro....theyre nice 'throwaway' knives. Do some quick damage and toss it. Good stuff. :)

Thanx alwillam...I was wondering. ;)

06
July 11, 2008, 10:29 AM
Never saw an original Ka-Bar with a serrated edge-were they?? wc

hso
July 11, 2008, 12:10 PM
USMC Fighting/Utility and the Navy MkII knives never had serrated edges. The serrated versions are a recent commercial variant that KaBar makes.

Brian Williams
July 11, 2008, 11:06 PM
Here is a bring back of my father's from the pacific theater, He was a Boatswain mate second on a fleet oiler.

US Army Air Corps
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=81295&stc=1&d=1215828356

nemesis_3003
January 24, 2009, 08:12 PM
hey guys, im new here n im a knifemaker and i was wondering if someone might be willing to tell me the dimensions of one of those thumb dagers?
thank you.

Eric Draven
January 27, 2009, 04:55 AM
It depends on the thumbdagger....you may want to email or PM alwilliam for that info. IIRC he actually has a few originals from the OSS/CIA stuff.

I currently have 3 books with different kinds of those thumb daggers and none of them have any specs, only one of the books said very vaguely: "Its much like the tip of a Sykes Fairbairn Commando Knife".

Sorry I dont have any better info. If I was making one, I would use a piece of posterboard or cardboard as a model to see what size fits between my index finger and thumb proportionately to the size of what you see in the pics of people holding them.

Just a thought....hope it helps. :)

nemesis_3003
January 27, 2009, 03:41 PM
thanks eric, i actually havnt seen a picture of someone holding one do you happen to have one??? i have seen them relative to coins however.
thanks

Dr. Snubnose
January 28, 2009, 03:37 AM
All good stuff Eric...Love all the spikes...have a few myself...but I did place my vote for the Smachet.... As far as bladed weapons in the Military goes....Next to some of my Vietnam Tactical Hawks I own (not WWI/WWII) the Smachet is one of my most favorite double edged knives....for more reasons than one could imagine.....Doc:D

WardenWolf
January 28, 2009, 06:40 PM
The Arisaka 99 bayonet.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/WardenWolf_1982/ArisakaBayonet.jpg

Brutal, and still sharp.

ezd
November 27, 2010, 08:41 PM
This is worth registering for...you've missed a winner.

Despite the Everitt/McNary/Clements model knuckle knives/trench knives becoming the classic description for American WWI era weapons, the British did have a jaw-dropping equivalent.

http://www.donrearic.com/images/knuckleknifefour.jpg

My favourite

almostfree
November 27, 2010, 09:05 PM
When I read the thread title, my first thought was a Randall Model 1. The poll says dagger, so I'll modify that to a Randall Model 2.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p244/zippox_photos/FS%20and%20others/scan0001.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e245/fisac/knife%20collection/sold%20knives/Randall.jpg

clem
November 27, 2010, 09:35 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/clemdoggie/HPIM3429.jpg

Deltaboy
November 28, 2010, 05:38 PM
Great collections of goodies!

JoergS
November 29, 2010, 05:51 AM
I like my Böker Grabendolch (WW1 trench dagger).

http://www.boker.de/fahrtenmesser/boeker/taktische-einsatzmesser/121918.html

Eric Draven
November 29, 2010, 06:11 PM
With all respect to everyone here...I think its cool to post any WWI or WWII blades, not just daggers. Any OSS/CIA/SOE stuff. I titled it "Post your favorite WWI/WWII Blade" becuz I know that there arent just daggers. Now we all know that the daggers were some of the most recognized and prolific bladed items of that period and I did enter 99% of the poll options as daggers, so its easy to see how it could get limited to that category. But lets not forget the last option..."Other". :)

Either way, I love all of them bladed items from that time period and every other time period...rock and roll.

I attached a pic of one I just finished for a friend who's making an AR-15 forearm grip that needed a knife. It was based on a model from the WWII OSS Blades. Its Cera-Koted in Armor Black and made out of 1/4" thick CPMD2.

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