May i Present Aegis O.C. 5 Million SHU


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NorestRDS
July 3, 2008, 01:37 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/norest07/logo2.jpg

this is my brand in the process of manufacturing as we speak . Im going to do an inital run of 1,000 or so in the following configurations

mk -6
mk- 3
mk -4
mk -9 (14 oz)

Stream , Fog or Foam.

5 million SHU
4% OC
1.50% Major capsaicinoids .

price is yet to be detrmined but expect a full website and online buying availibilty with in 3-6 months.

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hso
July 3, 2008, 01:49 PM
Good for you.

CZ.22
July 3, 2008, 03:39 PM
Cool.


You really do like pepper spray.

wdlsguy
July 4, 2008, 10:13 AM
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the percentage of capsaicinoids the important number? Why do manufacturers tend to stress the other numbers instead? And yeah, it's going to be hot stuff with 1.5% capsaicinoids. :evil:

waterhouse
July 4, 2008, 10:22 AM
Why do manufacturers tend to stress the other numbers instead?

Just a guess, but marketing. 5 million and 4% are "better" to most folks than 1.5%.

Looks to be nice specs. Good luck with the endeavor.

NorestRDS
July 4, 2008, 12:29 PM
its not just one factor unlike people like to point out. Fox labs at .67% is way hotter and way faster acting then Sabre red at 1.33% caps. Why is this? Fox Labs is way more refined , sabre is red becuase there are all kinds of sugars and pepper pieces that will actually block pore obsorbtion of the capsasinoids.

also the whole SHU thing is whats known as a taste test . it can not be measured by a machine , human pain can not be measured by a machine when it comes to the sensation of burning.

the 4% oc is also not a marketing tool its a safety tool. while my product will prob kick up full burn in 1.5-3 seconds and it will be so intense . you will also decontaminate as far as swelling and the major pain goes in 15 or 20 minutes.

Those things all put together (low oc% high capsaicinoids and high shu rating) has not been done before , all just in the name of cost , this is a one of a kind formula . Once i get some samples in a few months and my liability insurance i will start sending some out.

CZ.22
July 4, 2008, 06:24 PM
IIRC, Scoville Heat Units are the number of drops of water needed to be placed on the tongue to deaden the flame of a pepper.

I'd like to see a flat pepper-spray dispenser, the size and shape of a Kel-Tec pistol.

NorestRDS
July 5, 2008, 04:47 AM
i was actually thinking about getting a dispenser designed that would be a tac light size and shape that could be mounted under a shotgun or rifle . it would be a neat and discreet less lethal option . kinda like how they do now with the X-26 Tazers being mounted under M4's

ray_ray
July 5, 2008, 07:26 AM
Sounds great NorestRDS i would have to try to by one when they are ready.

LAK
July 5, 2008, 08:10 AM
I'd like to see a flat pepper-spray dispenser, the size and shape of a Kel-Tec pistol.
Seconded.
i was actually thinking about getting a dispenser designed that would be a tac light size and shape that could be mounted under a shotgun or rifle ...
The trouble with gunmounted dispensers is that in Texas for instance, pointing a firearm at a person, unless you are justified in using deadly force at the time is a crime; deadly conduct.

fletcher
July 5, 2008, 09:17 AM
I'd like to see a flat pepper-spray dispenser, the size and shape of a Kel-Tec pistol.

Thirded. I would love to have one that actually pockets.

ray_ray
July 5, 2008, 11:30 AM
Quote:
I'd like to see a flat pepper-spray dispenser, the size and shape of a Kel-Tec pistol.

Thirded. I would love to have one that actually pockets.
There actually is some sprays that are kinda flat check them out, but you maybe wanted even thiner?
http://www.security-discount.com/product_info.php/info/p17_20ml-Spray-device--Pepper-Jet----directstream.html
http://shop.klu.com/popup_image.php?pID=365
http://www.freie-waffen.com/catalog/waltherprosecurebreitstrahlpfefferspray20ml-p-622.html
The ones with led also seems good http://www.obramo-security.de/images/pics/hurricane.jpg

CZ.22
July 5, 2008, 03:48 PM
I want one I could carry concealed- ie not round and long. I'm not sure what NC's laws on minors packing spray, but if I can, I'd want one that was comfortable to carry and easy to conceal. The pistol shape would be easier to aim.

loandr.
July 5, 2008, 10:06 PM
Im in?.....curious or Mr. AlWilliam's (PM'ed accordingly:-) opinions on this as well. Thank you


Russ

NorestRDS
July 5, 2008, 10:49 PM
new logo im messing with . gotta send the logo for the can in on mon-tues

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd65/norest07/Logotext1copy.jpg

NorestRDS
July 6, 2008, 03:43 PM
website "live" http://www.aegispepper.com

CZ.22
July 6, 2008, 09:17 PM
I like the logo. Something with Athena on it would have also worked very well.

LAK
July 7, 2008, 04:48 AM
Ray_Ray,

They are all flattish, but that is not the issue. A pepper dispenser that looks like, and therefore handles, points and operates "like a Kel-Tec pistol".

A "pistol" points like an extension of your index finger, as opposed to a can (however flat sided) where you have less "point" feel, and your thumb or index finger is bent over the top for the button. A "pistol" style trigger is also much more natural, especially for those that shoot .. pistols.

ray_ray
July 7, 2008, 07:11 AM
LAK: Ok more like this you meen? http://www.security-discount.com/popup_image.php/pID/4/imgID/0/XTCsid/a678907f1673c972abba9955c3061b59

Saba
July 7, 2008, 10:42 AM
If you must, a Gun Pepper Spray could be a good addition to your stock. Something like this here: Click link below:

Pepper Spray Gun (http://www.safetybasement.com/Mace-Pepper-Spray-Gun-p/st-80400.htm)

hso
July 7, 2008, 11:08 AM
Looks like you have a good formulation. There have been plenty of discussions on what makes a good form for the spray to be carried and used so you might get some good ideas from the previous pepper spray discussions.

I'd be reluctant to put a spray on a handgun rail simply because of tragic consequences of a user confusing one trigger for another under stress.

Caps/covers/triggers/buttons have been a topic that has received a lot of attention in the past with particular annoyance at systems that are overly complicated to move from "safe" to "fire".

Good luck!

ray_ray
July 7, 2008, 01:47 PM
Litlle OT: NorestRDS you seem a little familiar with the topic so what do you do you know about PAVA, it is something good or is the regular OC better? Pro, drawbacks?

NorestRDS
July 7, 2008, 04:55 PM
i honestly have no idea. i have been looking for a can but cant find it in the US only pepper balls that use pava .

bigdog21
July 7, 2008, 11:12 PM
its not just one factor unlike people like to point out. Fox labs at .67% is way hotter and way faster acting then Sabre red at 1.33% caps. Why is this? Fox Labs is way more refined , sabre is red becuase there are all kinds of sugars and pepper pieces that will actually block pore obsorbtion of the capsasinoids.
Fox Labs also has a chemical (degreaser)in it that pulls oils of the skin to allow the pepper spray to act faster.

LAK
July 8, 2008, 08:26 AM
ray_ray and saba,

Now that's more like it.

I notice on the "security-discount" site the Kimber Lifeact type JPX double-barreled dispenser is 299 euros(!) Sheesh, the same item here in the USA goes for less than $100 IIRC.

ray_ray
July 8, 2008, 09:29 AM
LAK: yea i know i think its because of all the taxes we have here. Its cheaper for me to buy a Fallkniven from US than if i by it here in sweden:confused:

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