DIY smg?
the_redstar_swl
August 26, 2003, 06:09 PM
this is a book i fond on Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0873649834/ref=pd_sim_books_2/104-0179677-0586338?v=glance&s=books
it a 9mm smg that you can build
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Wildalaska
August 26, 2003, 06:13 PM
Attention Mr. 13 year old anarchist:
If you buy the book and build one, we ill next see you when you graduate Club Fed in 20 years..
Ya wanna play with machine guns, jopin the Army in a few years...
WildnonoAlaska
Baba Louie
August 26, 2003, 06:14 PM
Link didn't work for me.
I thought that building a smg was a no no after '86. I don't have sworn testimony to that effect, I just remember reading it somewhere.:D
Not a good topic for open discussion (or closed discussion) as it may seem to be conspiritorial... and we wouldn't want that, now would we? Too bad, really.
I always wanted to see John Moses Browning's design for an automatic lever action repeating rifle in real life.
Does it exist in any museum anywhere? I've seen drawings of it.
Adios
Monkeyleg
August 26, 2003, 06:20 PM
There's a license you can get to manufacture your own full-autos. I forget the number--it's not Class III--but it costs $500 a year. The only catch is that you can't sell them; they're strictly for your own possession and use.
Correia
August 26, 2003, 06:26 PM
To be able to legally build a machine gun you need to get an SOT. (Special Occupational Tax). For information on how to do this contact the BATF.
Building any weapon capable of full auto fire on your own would be a felony.
Hkmp5sd
August 26, 2003, 06:34 PM
Expedient Homemade Firearms : The 9mm Submachine Gun by P.A. Luty
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0873649834.01._PE30_PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
But I like this one better....
Do-It-Yourself Submachine Gun : It's Homemade, 9mm, Lightweight, Durable-And It'll Never Be On Any Import Ban Lists! by Gerard Metral
And here's their editorial review/disclaimer.....
Book Description: Build your own 9mm, blowback, selective-fire submachine gun that's as powerful as an Uzi or HK MP5 but has fewer parts and is more durable. Simply follow the step-by-step instructions and machinist's drawings in this book. For academic study only.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0873648404/qid%3D1061937078/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-2863041-0144623
Feel free to read the book. If you want to actually use the instructions, save time and money and just book yourself reservations at Club Fed.
4v50 Gary
August 26, 2003, 06:38 PM
Knowledge is good. Wisdom is knowing when to use it.
Gary
Hkmp5sd
August 26, 2003, 06:38 PM
The only catch is that you can't sell them; they're strictly for your own possession and use.
Not exactly true. There is no provision for obtaining a license to manufacture machineguns for your personal use. If you are going to manufacture machineguns, you have to set up an actual business to sell them to either LEOs/Government or for export. It requires lots of money, federal, state and local licenses, insurance, business location and tons of paperwork.
standingbear
August 26, 2003, 07:16 PM
an one must consider the safty aspects of doing this also.the thing could very easily blow up in your face,especially if the diy builder has no clue about metalurgy and expanding pressure..book sounds like a bunch of crap.
Wanderer
August 26, 2003, 07:20 PM
Look, I'm 13 too, and if you do this, I'd like to have a nice lunch with you and discuss it when you're 33-38. Don't do this, it might blow up in your face (as said before) and you'd have a damn hard time explaining burn marks over your face and hands, as well as shrapnel imbedded in your skin. Do it when the time is right, or it is neccesary, as Gary said, not now for kicks and giggles.
Mike Irwin
August 26, 2003, 08:12 PM
Here's a GREAT group that puts together package vacations for people who make their own machine guns...
Package vacation for the home subgun maker (http://www.bop.gov/)
the_redstar_swl
August 26, 2003, 08:46 PM
meh i don't have a enough $$ to bye a book Ike this and its for academic study only i Wod much rather get a poor mans James bond book be sides the parents won't let me build one :)
Standing Wolf
August 26, 2003, 08:53 PM
...be sides the parents won't let me build one
My parents didn't let me build sub-machine guns, either, but I turned out more or less all right in spite of the trauma.
ctdonath
August 26, 2003, 08:53 PM
Someone needs to state this clearly:
Such books are for entertainment purposes only. Unless you have been approved, via high fees and paperwork and intense interviewing and have good contacts, building a machinegun will cost you $250,000 fine and 20 years in federal prison.
There is lots of misinformation and incomplete information tossed around about DIY-SMGs. Bottom line, for all practical purposes, is to build one gets you one step below life in prison. Unless you know the relevant laws inside & out, don't even THINK of making your own.
the_redstar_swl
August 26, 2003, 08:58 PM
yea i am NOT GOING to BUILD a smg I'm going to Waite 1-2 yrs and get a AK-47/M-4 Carbine and 4 drum mags and ap ammo:evil:
ctdonath
August 26, 2003, 09:03 PM
After following these discussion boards for a while, especially if you actually read the federal laws, you'll understand why people get so bent out of shape at even the mere mention of DIY-SMGs. They are really neat to think about, though...
Valkman
August 26, 2003, 09:06 PM
Here's a GREAT group that puts together package vacations for people who make their own machine guns...
ROTFLMAO! :D :D :D
Wildalaska
August 26, 2003, 09:14 PM
My parents didn't let me build sub-machine guns, either, but I turned out more or less all right in spite of the trauma.
ROTFLMAO:D :D :D
WildexcellentlineAlaska
George Hill
August 26, 2003, 09:57 PM
I'm closing this. This is not promoting safe and responsible (read as legal) firearms ownership.
Making such weapons is a legal no-no.
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