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Voodoochile
July 5, 2008, 10:15 PM
Well today I went to the club to try a few different loads in my Pietta 58' NMA with the 5.5" barrel to see which one it likes the best.
Well it has been favoring the left quite a bit which I figured that I'd cure soon enough but grouping was my goal, I wanted to get it shooting close to 1 to maybe 1.5" groups at 25 yards.

Goex FFFG
Pyrodex P
Cast .457 143gr. ball
Remington #11
Lubed wads, different makes "Cabelas, Ox Yoke, BP Stuff"

Well after shooting some 25gr., 30gr. & even 35gr. loads I found that this little puppy likes a little on the heavy side charge where the 30gr. charge of FFFG was my best grouping of 2" but still 2.25" left & slightly high "thought I had filed a little too much of the front sight" but I ran out of wads & wanted to try a few more cylinders so instead of calling it a day I proceeded to load 30gr. Ball then a touch of Bore Butter over the ball.

MAN did it make a difference, my left string was straightened up to POA with just a slight 1" low impact, after 2 more cylinders to be sure it wasn't me I'm convinced that this Remington copy does not like Wads at all but does like a 30gr. FFFG Goex charge with a pretty consistent 2" ish group at 25 yards & this is between 2 different cylinders.

Just goes to show that some times different ways of loading can make a difference in the outcome of the load.

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theotherwaldo
July 6, 2008, 12:15 AM
I've never had good results using under-ball wads with my Remington. 30 grains of FFFG, .451 balls of not-quite-pure lead or .457 balls of the soft stuff, a popsicle stick loaded with Crisco in cool weather or Bore Butter in South Texas, and I'm ready to punch two-inch (+/-) holes at 25 yards.

The '51 Colt seems indifferent to wads, and I've never tried them with the Old Army.

scrat
July 6, 2008, 12:44 AM
yep i agree. you really have to experiment with the loads and wads. i have switched to the fibre wads from cabelas. somehow i get better results with them.

theotherwaldo
July 6, 2008, 01:09 AM
I've heard that wads work well with conical bullets. I've never used conicals.

Anybody confirm or disprove this?

Voodoochile
July 6, 2008, 08:15 AM
I've heard that wads work well with conical bullets. I've never used conicals.

Anybody confirm or disprove this?

Sorry I can't any Conicals that I've used never had any wads behind em because they had a liberal supply of lube on the bullets to begin with & unless I went to a lighter load than 30gr. there was no room.

It's wierd though, I've been using Wads in most of my C&B revolvers for 15 or so years "my 60 Army being the exception as to also not like the wads" & thinking that my older 58' liking them I thought that my new 58' would.

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