A Never Failed Auto . . . .


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schmeky
July 6, 2008, 09:37 PM
Of all my many autoloaders through the years, I have one that has been 100% reliable to date. . . . .

CZ-75, 9mm

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FEG
July 6, 2008, 09:42 PM
Just for the record, you can make them jam-o-matics if you use too heavy of an aftermarket recoil spring.

I've ruined many a pistol's perfect record that way, CZs and otherwise. I mention this because a lot of people experiment with the weight.

schmeky
July 6, 2008, 09:56 PM
This particular 75 is all CZ except for the mainspring. I changed it to a Wolf 13#'er. However, I never had a problem with the original CZ mainspring.

SureThing
July 6, 2008, 09:59 PM
For me, Glocks. I have owned 4 and have NEVER had a jam of any type.

Avoiding the arugements of nonsupported chambers, grip angles, polymer frames. There probably is no more dependable pistol than a full sized Glock 17.

Also, durable. There is nothing that you hear keeps breaking on them.

What is it the CZ has problems with, the slide stop?

FEG
July 6, 2008, 10:05 PM
What is it the CZ has problems with, the slide stop?

Sure, if it's the 1980s, and we are talking about Tanfoglios. ;)

This is sort of an internet myth from what I can tell. People using pre series 88 Tanfoglios in competition would often break slide stops.

I have been involved at CZF for about eight years, and we only had one member who had this problem. It turned out that his frame was not correctly machined. It was replaced under warranty.

At some point, CZ-UB replaced the steel recoil guide with delrin, so there may be something to the slidestop myth. The idea would be that a plastic rod is easier on the stop and barrel shank. Who knows?

Craig M. Arnold
July 6, 2008, 10:11 PM
I've had a bunch of CZ pistols over the years. I still have a few. I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds through my CZs and I have never broken a slide stop.

I really like CZs.

Best regards.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/cmarnold7/IMG_0004.jpg

schmeky
July 6, 2008, 10:15 PM
Sure Thing,

I have 2 Glocks, a 1st gen 17 and a new G34. The G17 has had a few issues (when it shouldn't have) and G34 mis-fed on about the 3rd mag, using the same ammo I feed the CZ.

Any gun can mis-fed. I suspect if I shoot my CZ long enough, it'll do it to. It just hasn't happened so far.

gunman42782
July 6, 2008, 10:22 PM
I have a Ruger P89 that has not one time let me down, and I have fired thousands of rounds through it, all reloads.

SureThing
July 6, 2008, 10:25 PM
I read the slide stop thing here

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=2795

FEG
July 6, 2008, 10:26 PM
That was the gentleman with the mismachined frame/slide.

atblis
July 6, 2008, 11:37 PM
CZs do break slide stops. However, it's more normal to have one break like every 15k rounds. Of course they are a mass produced mechanical item, so there's some sort of distribution. Some break sooner, some break later...

It's not unusual for CZs to last 100k rounds or so. People with that many rounds down the pipe usually report having replaced a few slide stops.

Blue Brick
July 6, 2008, 11:45 PM
My Ruger P95DC

GZOh
July 7, 2008, 07:39 AM
craig arnold... I'm not going to sleep for a couple days after looking at that collection... VERY, VERY impressive!! As they say "You da Man!!!
Not to cause any problems, but I somehow DIDN'T see a 97B in that 'family'... reason?... or your NEXT purchase?

BTW: have five CZs with a total of 5-10,000 rnds fired... Z-E-R-O problems, NOTHING!!... One of the many reasons why I love 'em and keep buyin 'em!..

BTW(2): Do you really like CZs craig?...
.

jocko
July 7, 2008, 07:42 AM
two kahrs, never one malfunction, combined total over 15,000 rounds.

My PM9 has 13,000 through it, better than a "duracell even"

chriske
July 7, 2008, 09:54 AM
The slide stop on my CZ-75 B did actually break clean in half after approximately 5000 rounds.
Replacementg however was easy & inexpensive.
I have to add I bought that pistol used & don't know how many rounds it had under its belt when I bought it. I guess about once again that much.

(I knew the first owner & trusted her to have taken good care of her gun, since she's my younger daughter)

AndyC
July 7, 2008, 01:44 PM
Only two things I've had go wrong on a CZ75 - worn-out barrel (for obvious reasons) and the front-sight flying off during a match (back in the days when they were simply staked in place).

wingman
July 7, 2008, 02:11 PM
I've owned two auto pistols that i have not had a FTF the cz75b and the
Makarov, while I tend to shoot BHP's and 1911's more.

blackcash88
July 7, 2008, 04:09 PM
I've never owned a semi-auto that never had a malfunction. Even my mighty G19 started failing to eject properly. It did have a TON of rounds through it and that was with the original mag that came with the gun. New recoil spring (not sure it was needed) and mag spring and no malfunctions since. Nothing is ever 100% perfect over the long run.

kokapelli
July 7, 2008, 08:30 PM
I have a number of pistols that have never failed.

Most have already been mentioned, but here are mine.

Kahr K9 and it is one of the first ones around too.

My Kahr PM9 hasn't failed, but I only have about 500 rounds through it.

XD9 is 100%.

CZ75B and a P01

Don't have them anymore, but my three Makarovs never failed.

makarovnik
July 7, 2008, 09:15 PM
Never jammed in all these years:

Makarov
Bryco .380
Ruger P95
Hi-Point .45 acp
Romanian Carpati
Polish P64

See a trend here. Some of my cheaper pistols are more reliable than my Walthers and Colts.

lions
July 7, 2008, 09:31 PM
Taurus PT92

6K rounds of perfect!

To be honest I didn't see that one coming but that doesn't make me any less happy.

Samuel Adams
July 7, 2008, 09:50 PM
Very impressive Mr. Arnold. Why is it that I don't see a Single Action pistol there???

blackcash88
July 8, 2008, 11:36 AM
Um, maybe because this thread is about semi-auto PISTOLS? :rolleyes:

rocinante
July 8, 2008, 08:10 PM
My S&W 915 has never jammed on anything. My other four semi, Walther P1, Bersa 380, Ruger 22/45 are pretty good but each has jammed at least once. I got a budget 1911 coming so I am sure it will go into the has jammed list.

scurtis_34471
July 8, 2008, 09:00 PM
I had two FTFs with my CZ PO-1 during break-in. Zero malfunctions since.

I have never had a malfuction with either one of my XDs and I've got over 4000 rounds through my 40 Service.

tbtrout
July 8, 2008, 09:20 PM
My West German P220 has been flawless. My CZ75 does not have nearly as many rounds through it, but has been 100%.

psyopspec
July 8, 2008, 09:28 PM
Long time admirer of CZ's here, though I've never been able to warm up to them enough to buy one. FWIW, my unfailing pistols have been Glocks (19, 21), Berettas (92fs, 90-Two, PX4), and HK (USPc .45, USP 9mm, P2000). To be fair, the pistols that made 5k rounds and kept on were the USP 9mm, the P2k, and the 92fs. Sold the rest after finding that they weren't to my liking.

CZF
July 8, 2008, 09:56 PM
Very odd. The only two pistols that I've had run 100% were
two CZ75 preB models, and of course, my wife's Glock 19 that
was stolen.

I wish that I could include my 9mm RAMI and my 10mm Witness, but both have had problems. Hyper velocity ammo (RAMI)
and 200 gr. XTP reloads (Witness) but has ran about 8,000
other rounds just fine!


The 75B Stainless that I have up for sale
doesn't seem to like Blazer ammo. This is common with some
75Bs, and the gun has ran 100% with brass cased ammo.

However, all considered.
Problems with the stoic CZ75 design are a rarity.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/75BSS/czstim2.jpg

novaDAK
July 9, 2008, 01:41 PM
never jammed:

Ruger P89
Ruger P944
Ruger P95

Bulg. Makarov

XD45acp 5"

JDGray
July 9, 2008, 03:08 PM
My never a bobble autos:

1. Kimber Ultra CarryII
2. S&W SC Commander
3. G19*
4. G23
5. CZ75B
6. Sig 239
7. CZ P01
8. CZ75 Compact
9. XD9
10. KT P32

*In all honesty, the G19 will stovepipe with weak ammo, with my 10yr old son shooting. Cant really blame the gun, however, the same ammo runs great in my CZ.

blackcash88
July 9, 2008, 03:57 PM
Then that G19 is certainly NOT a "never a bobble" semi-auto, now is it?

skinewmexico
July 9, 2008, 04:56 PM
All three of my XDs. My CZ75 jammed all the time. Got it back from the factory a while back, need to go shoot it.

Flyin Ashtrays
July 9, 2008, 11:20 PM
Ruger P90DC... Yeah, it's ugly.:neener:

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