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jrfoxx
July 9, 2008, 05:43 PM
Мать Коллекция России - Mother Russia Collection

(I hope that translation is right, I used 3 different online translators, and got different results on 2 of 3.What a gyp.:()

So, being of 1/2 Russian, and 1/2 German heritage, I thought this might make for a fun pic and thread. Here's my salute to my Russian heritage with my rabbit fur Ushanka with Romanov Imperial Crest (beaver pelt would be cooler, but they are kinda pricey), my 1945 Izhevsk M44 Mosin-Nagant, Nagant 1895 revolver, and super minty 1954 Izhevsk sks. I'll take a pic for the German side later on (dont worry, no nazi flags, SS pins, etc :barf:). Lets see some pics of collections that represent your family heritage!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/jrfoxx/misc/motherlandcollection.jpg

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Cougfan2
July 9, 2008, 05:45 PM
Very Nice! I think that is the first Nagant revolver I have ever seen.

jrfoxx
July 9, 2008, 05:54 PM
Really? They are pretty neat with the Soviet star and other marking, ugly like only a mother could love, fun to shoot, and really mild on recoil. The original Russin ammo for it is crazy looking too, as its a 38mm long, skinny, staright walled case, and the bulet is seated several mm's below the case mouth.Kinda funny lookin'. The DA trigger pull requires a Russina tractor though. Shooting A full cylinder in DA is quite a workout on the trigger finger. Interesting guns with the whole oddball gas seal cylinder that slides forward as the tigger is pulled.
pretty neat conversation piece and intersting collectable for only $80.

Shung
July 9, 2008, 05:56 PM
I love the way the cylinder goes forward to seal the chamber/barrel for each shot !

A friend of mine has 3 of these Nagant.

Cougfan2
July 9, 2008, 05:57 PM
Funny that I've never seen one here in Portland or maybe it was just because I wasn't looking for one. I'll check the next Rose City Gun Collectors show to see if someone has one there. And you're right, it is uglier than sin. :D

Seven©
July 9, 2008, 06:06 PM
Lets see some pics of collections that represent your family heritage!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/967/img0440kd0.jpg

Cougfan2
July 9, 2008, 06:11 PM
Seven, are those Damascus barrels in the external hammer shotgun?

armoredman
July 9, 2008, 06:16 PM
I don't have anything - the only Norweigan firearm I can think of is one of those oddball 1911 clones from WWII, and they ain't cheap.

jrfoxx
July 9, 2008, 06:16 PM
Nice. Are those original, handed down through the family/generations guns? If so, thats very cool. I hadnt really thought of the direct family connection to specific guns like that with this topic (I should have, it's obvious now that it has ben pointed out. I'm a little dense sometimes :D), only the examples of guns from "where my 'people' come from" thing that I did. Thats even cooler, as mine are just Russian guns I bought, not that were passed down. way to add some cool depth to the concept.:cool:

justin 561
July 9, 2008, 06:33 PM
Nice collection, I love that revolver.

fatelk
July 9, 2008, 06:36 PM
Nice collection, jrfoxx. Those Nagants are fun to shoot.

If I put together a collection reflecting my family heritage, I guess it would just have to be American guns, otherwise there would be too many, including numerous European guns as well as a bow and some arrows.:)

jrfoxx
July 9, 2008, 06:42 PM
Those Nagants are fun to shoot.
Yup. I beleive I got to see you enjoying yours the time we actually made it to the range. I really need more money for gas and ammo, and to take a few Tuesday nights off to do it again. I think that was the last time I got out shooting.:(

Seven©
July 9, 2008, 06:53 PM
Seven, are those Damascus barrels in the external hammer shotgun?

Yes.

Are those original, handed down through the family/generations guns?

Yes. Great-great grandad's, great grandad's, grandad's. Still working on my Dad. :)

Top to bottom: Piedmont Arms, Fox, Davis.

jrfoxx
July 9, 2008, 07:02 PM
Great-great grandad's, great grandad's, grandad's. Still working on my Dad.
Thats VERY cool. Only "family" guns I have were my dads, and 1 that was his mother's, and one that was his father's. If the family owned guns further back than that, I have never heard of it, and have NO idea what became of them. Too bad. My prize gun is definitely my nickle plated Colt Trooper MKII that my dad bought new just a few months after I was born.It was his favorite gun, then he gave it to me last year, and not only is it just a super sweet gun, that was my dads, the fact it was made and bought the year I was born is pretty cool.

REPOMAN
July 10, 2008, 08:36 AM
Sweet collection......:)

Phil DeGraves
July 10, 2008, 08:56 AM
We have one of those Nagant Gas Seals at a local gunshop. It has been rechambered to 7.62x25. That might be interesting, if it is safe. The trigger pull is horrendous though.

El Tejon
July 10, 2008, 09:07 AM
jrfoxx, I believe that "Mother Russia" should be in the genitive case, mati russiya.

Collection of Mother Russian, would call for genitive case.

But that's my schoolbook Russian. We just happen to have a native speaker who runs the place.:D

jrfoxx
July 10, 2008, 01:18 PM
El Tejon, you are probably correct. All I did was plug the phrase into Babelfish and 2 other online translators, and used the one that 2 of them returned, as the 3rd was different. I would hae actually been surprised if it turned out to be correct, as it seems the online translators dont really tend to work for anything other than single words, due to the way all languages do thing in regards to case, tense, gender, etc. I only took a semester of Russina in college, and then they canceled the course. I figured it would be close enough to get the point accross, 99% of us wouldnt know the difference :p, and either way, it works as an attention grabber, as people want to see what the thread with all the "crazy squigly words" is. :D

I was kinda hoping Max Popenker or Oleg would see it right away and give me a correct translation while I was still able to edit the thread title (theres a time limit in this sftware), and bail me out.:o Oh well, my butchered Russian matches my incorrectly refinished M44 at least. :D

And my apologies to Max, Oleg, and any other Russian memebers for butchering your cool language. We Americans tend to be a little slow, as well as arrogant, especially when it come to other languages.Everbody else should just always speak English. It's better anyways.:neener::D

Poprivit
July 10, 2008, 02:02 PM
Ok, let me dig up my Irish collection ...

Potatoes!

jrfoxx
July 10, 2008, 02:20 PM
Ok, let me dig up my Irish collection ...

Potatoes!
are they the exploding type like in the movie The Corsican Brothers? :D

Fergy35
July 10, 2008, 02:30 PM
Like Poprivit, I've got Irish and then there's America Indian and German. I guess I'll have to round up my Great Grandpa's old 12ga., my Grandfather's Marlin 336 and my bow. I don't own any German guns yet. I'm gonna have to add that to my list.

JRFOXX, Nice collection you have there. The hat is a nice touch.

Seven, That is way to cool to have guns that have been handed down. I never got to hunt with my grand-dad (we lived too far away), but I feel like he is probably smiling somewhere when I take his rifle to the range with me. Even more so, when my son gets to shoot it.

The Viking
July 10, 2008, 02:37 PM
I don't have anything - the only Norweigan firearm I can think of is one of those oddball 1911 clones from WWII, and they ain't cheap.
You might be able to find Krag-Jørgensen rifles somewhere. Might be cheaper than a Kongsberg Colt.

Apple a Day
July 10, 2008, 03:15 PM
jrfoxx,
You NEED a Makarov!
You've got some nice looking guns, dude, but that's the ugliest friggin' poddle I ever saw! :evil:

CBS220
July 10, 2008, 03:37 PM
I don't have anything - the only Norweigan firearm I can think of is one of those oddball 1911 clones from WWII, and they ain't cheap.

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/graphics%20RR%20rick/Krag%20Photo%202.jpg

Mastiff
July 10, 2008, 04:56 PM
My wifes family firearm collection starts with the muzzle loader from her great great grandfather. From there we have some double barreled shotguns, followed by her grandfathers Winchester 1897 shotgun. She also has the Ariska her father brought back from WWII. She also has his 20 gauge. Her addition was a 22 rifle.
All in all, she has 10 family long guns.

TehK1w1
July 10, 2008, 07:36 PM
Phil Degraves, I have asked about the 7.62x25 tokarev conversion, and the general consensus from those I have asked is that it is NOT a safe conversion. Apparently the pressure is quite a bit higher. That's just what I have been told, though, no figures to back me up.

Leif Runenritzer
July 11, 2008, 12:17 AM
Ok, let me dig up my Irish collection ...

Potatoes!

You know, there are potato guns.

Being mostly of Irish forebearing, i've wondered about this. I don't believe Ireland makes their own guns. I know the military fields the AUG and i've seen pictures of counter-terrorists using old Heckler and Cough rifles. If you include what the IRA has used, you most likely already own it.

I wish i had a military arm for my Finnish side. About all i can hope for is a Mosin-Nagant.

The Viking
July 11, 2008, 09:17 AM
You know, there are potato guns.

Being mostly of Irish forebearing, i've wondered about this. I don't believe Ireland makes their own guns. I know the military fields the AUG and i've seen pictures of counter-terrorists using old Heckler and Cough rifles. If you include what the IRA has used, you most likely already own it.

I wish i had a military arm for my Finnish side. About all i can hope for is a Mosin-Nagant.
The IRA did manufacture their own submachine guns, which they named "The Avenger".

hankdatank1362
July 11, 2008, 09:43 AM
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/vis-35.gif
(courtesy of world.guns.ru)

Figures. Only us Polish could make a 1911 ugly.

entropy
July 11, 2008, 11:13 AM
We have one of those Nagant Gas Seals at a local gunshop. It has been rechambered to 7.62x25. That might be interesting, if it is safe. The trigger pull is horrendous though.




I don't think I'd want to fire that one! :what: :what: You'd have to make a new cylinder as the 7.62x38R is wider than the 7.62x25, at least past the bottleneck.

I'd have to collect a lot of European arms to cover my entire heritage, plus an Oneida bow...I guess a SMLE and Mauser would sum it up, though.


I wish i had a military arm for my Finnish side. About all i can hope for is a Mosin-Nagant.

How about an Rk-62?

gtmerkley
July 11, 2008, 11:15 AM
An't that something.

Leif Runenritzer
July 15, 2008, 03:51 AM
How about an Rk-62?
That would be a dream-come-true, but i'm not even going to think about it until they're in production and afordable again.

There's also the KP-44 pistol and maybe an upcoming KP-44 carbine, but i'm too picky to consider them.

Mp7
July 15, 2008, 04:02 AM
Hmm.....

well i could only get my hands on a Mauser "Tonne" marked S/42,
that some nutty professor offered me. But it was too pricey plus
it is not a legalized gun. Very neat with all numbers incl mag matching,
original Holster plus 2 boxes of original ammo.

If laws were more liberal here, i´d definitely get a K98 and a Luger...
...and a "Rechsrevolver".

I actually found a LeFaucheux pocket Revolver in 7mm behind
a roof-rafter, when renovating an old house.... it was wrapped in a 1942 newspaper.... and rusted.

Just blah. Interesting thread :)

jrfoxx
July 15, 2008, 06:51 AM
I actually found a LeFaucheux pocket Revolver in 7mm behind
a roof-rafter, when renovating an old house.... it was wrapped in a 1942 newspaper.... and rusted.

I wouldn't call that "blah". sounds liek a really neat find to me, even idf the gun was totally unuseable. I'd display it in some way, complete with the 1942 newspaper, and a card that says where it was found. There's some obvious history in a find like that, where it was, and how it was wrapped.

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