I hate New Jersey (Model 17)


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jjbduke2004
July 9, 2008, 11:44 PM
So I was in my local gun shop tonight looking for scope bases, when one of the employees was showing another customer a revolver. Being a 686+ owner, when I saw a blued revolver with full underlug and Hogue rubber grips, I immediately thought "586." Nope. It was a recent vintage 17 with 10 shot cylinder and 6-inch barrel.

Maybe one or two scratches near the front sight. The price: $275. They must have stolen it off of whoever traded it in. I didn't check for a revision (dash) number.

The problem: for each handgun, the New Jersey Peoples' Republic requires a purchase permit for each handgun. I have no unused permits and it would take too long to get another before I move to MD.

Maybe if I'm lucky, it will still be available in a month and I can have them ship it to a MD FFL:banghead:

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Standing Wolf
July 10, 2008, 12:01 AM
Maybe if I'm lucky, it will still be available in a month and I can have them ship it to a MD FFL

Buy it now, and ask the dealer to hold it a month.

Bruce H.
July 10, 2008, 12:21 AM
I left New Jersey 32 years ago. It was the best decision I ever made.

Gordon
July 10, 2008, 12:26 AM
I left permanently 35 years ago- to a free state- which is now Kalifonria!

Shade00
July 10, 2008, 12:54 AM
I'd see if you could buy it and then have them transfer it to a local shop when you move. A 17-8 for $275 is just too darn good to pass up, IMHO, no matter what hoops you have to go through.

tbtrout
July 10, 2008, 01:02 AM
You can buy it without a permit, you just can not leave the store with it. Most shops will hold on to it for you while you wait for a permit, so I can not see why they will not hold it and send it when you move.

GaryP
July 10, 2008, 01:03 AM
I left New Jersey 32 years ago. It was the best decision I ever made.

Yep, I know the feeling I left New Jersey (Trenton) 49 years ago and have not looked back!

How long does it take to get a permit to buy a handgun in NJ these days?


:evil:

Reddbecca
July 10, 2008, 01:06 AM
I hate New Jersey

Who doesn't?

LA Rondo
July 10, 2008, 01:12 AM
I left permanently 35 years ago- to a free state- which is now Kalifonria!HA! You don't mind me laughing, do you?

I found myself in a similar situation. Being in Las Vegas just before the 4th of July, I actually found a nice 617 -2. Not quite a bargain like the one mentioned in the OP, but in the $400 range. Real nice condtion.

After checking the CA roster, my fear became reality. A -2 was not on the list, meaning "No can do".

When I told the guys at the store that -4 thru -6 was ok, the would only shake their heads ....

Somebody mentioned, the 10 shot model 17 was the one with the alloy cylinder, which seems to be the same cylinder they fitted in the early 617.

Caipirinha
July 10, 2008, 01:17 AM
You're leaving New Jersey to move to Maryland? That's like leaving the USSR to move to China.

kingpin008
July 10, 2008, 02:05 AM
We're not quite that bad, thanks.:mad:

Believe it or not, coming to MD from a place like Jersey is a pretty big step up. No purchase permits, no laws that mandate "smart guns" the second they become saleable, we're NFA friendly (including machine guns), and that pesky one-gun-a-month law is easily gotten around by filling out a simple form designating one as a collector.

So spare us, huh?:rolleyes:

machinisttx
July 10, 2008, 02:25 AM
and that pesky one-gun-a-month law is easily gotten around by filling out a simple form designating one as a collector.

:scrutiny:

scrofcheck
July 10, 2008, 02:26 AM
I left New Jersey in 1975. Now a Proud resident of Idaho.

kingpin008
July 10, 2008, 04:52 AM
Quote:
and that pesky one-gun-a-month law is easily gotten around by filling out a simple form designating one as a collector.

:scrutiny:

Was something unclear?

ArchAngelCD
July 10, 2008, 04:59 AM
jjbduke2004,
Like said already in this thread several times, buy it now and have the dealer send it to you next month when you move. I'm sure the dealer won't have a problem with that at all.

Good luck on your move...

La Pistoletta
July 10, 2008, 06:59 AM
But it and put in an extra 25 bucks for him keeping it until you get your papers.

Pilot
July 10, 2008, 08:02 AM
You're leaving New Jersey to move to Maryland? That's like leaving the USSR to move to China.

X2. Move to VA instead. If you're working in DC, it still allows the commute. The gun laws are MUCH better in VA than MD.

ClemY
July 10, 2008, 01:13 PM
I left NJ 47 yrs. ago. I have lived in MD for 31 yrs. MD may not be as easy as VA, but it is a lot better than NJ, particularly after you get a collector designation.

Phydeaux642
July 10, 2008, 01:59 PM
My suggestion would be for you to send me the store info so a I can call and have it shipped to me as I can buy all the firearms I want (or until I run out of money).:neener:

jjbduke2004
July 10, 2008, 02:02 PM
I'm going on a multi-year rotational assignment outside the beltway and will eventually return to my job in New Jersey*. This time I will be smart and live in PA. The one year I spent in NJ taught me to never live here again with the ever changing (for the worse) gun laws. It took me 7 months to get an FOID & purchase permits.

Only incorporation of the 2nd via the 14th will cause NJ to change. And that will still be an uphill fight.

I will take your advice and see if I can put the gun on layaway for a while. it won't take that long for me to get an MD license and regulated firearms card.

*Why would I even consider returning to work in NJ? Would you pass up the chance to work in the mecca of weapons/munitions R&D?

machinisttx
July 10, 2008, 02:04 PM
Was something unclear?

Not in the slightest. I find it incredibly.....amusing that one would call such regulations an improvement, or that they would even be considered tolerable.

kingpin008
July 10, 2008, 03:24 PM
I find it incredibly.....amusing that one would call such regulations an improvement

Ever been to Jersey? MD most certainly is an improvement.

it won't take that long for me to get an MD license and regulated firearms card.

JJBDuke - You don't need a license here in MD. All you've got to do is watch a 10 minute safety video (or take a class) and then fill out a small card stating that you watched the video or took the class, and that's it. When you go to buy handguns or "regulated" long guns (AR's, AK's) you show the card, and you're good to go.

Not ideal, but I'm willing to bet it's a breath of fresh air compared to your current surroundings.

BTW - what part of MD will you be staying in? I'm in the Columbia/Laurel area, and would be more than happy to meet you at a range sometime to out some rounds downrange.

Also, when you get there, I highly suggest joining the Maryland Shooter's Forum over at mdshooters.com. Tons of good folks, and lots of great information.

jjbduke2004
July 10, 2008, 08:59 PM
To end the story, I went back and checked it out. They were willing to transfer it to an other FFL. However, the fees to do that were exorbitant (well in excess of what it would cost to ship).

I also found out why it was only $275. I hadn't seen the right side of the barrel where there was a lot of bluing worn off and someone attempted to cover (poorly) it up with a blue Sharpie.

If anyone is interested, further details available by PM.

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