What is a good concealed carry gun?


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chubbmann
July 10, 2008, 12:36 PM
My 1911 .45 and S&W are both great guns but I am about to get a concealed weapons permit and think both are too big to effectivly hide. I hate the thought of sacrificing power, accuracy and ease of use so wonder if you all might have some personal experiences or advice to add...

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CountGlockula
July 10, 2008, 12:41 PM
You may get a lot more information in the Handgun section.

I'd recommend a Glock subcompact.

TexasRifleman
July 10, 2008, 12:42 PM
I carry a full size 1911 concealed often. It's not as hard as you'd think with the proper holster.

The thin 1911 hides surprisingly well.

Try a couple of holsters before shopping for something new, you might be surprised.

Picard
July 10, 2008, 12:47 PM
IMO, get a CZ P-01. Small enough to conceal yet comfortable to hold and shoot accurately if you ever have to use it. Definitely check it out.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/13658.jpg

dogmush
July 10, 2008, 12:48 PM
+1 for the 1911. That's what I carry. It's pretty easy to hide.

chubbmann
July 10, 2008, 12:49 PM
I would look like a porn star with this hoster...



http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/crebralfix/glock_front_out_2.jpg

NG VI
July 10, 2008, 12:52 PM
A Glock 27 is awesome, and so is the CZ PCR

RoadkingLarry
July 10, 2008, 12:54 PM
Full size 1911 most of the time but when it gets real hot I carry a S&W mod 60. Both are carried carried IWB.

the naked prophet
July 10, 2008, 12:57 PM
More than half the holster orders I get are for the full-size 1911. Lots of people carry them, but be sure to buy a good gunbelt (a dress belt from wal-mart does not work).

misANTHrope
July 10, 2008, 12:58 PM
You can conceal anything you want; it's just a matter of what kind of wardrobe sacrifices you're willing to make. I carry a 4" XD, usually concealed under a simple T-shirt. Someone who was more slender than me would undoubtedly have to go to greater lengths to prevent printing from the heel of the grip, though.

So I think the first important things to know are your normal mode of dress, and your body type. From there, it'll be easier to determine what type of weapon and carry mode would work best for you.

kurtiss
July 10, 2008, 01:14 PM
My vote also goes to the Glocks. Don't get me wrong. I like carrying other guns as well. But the Glocks are light, reliable, and don't rust when you sweat on them. Perfect, especially for summertime carry.

cchurchi
July 10, 2008, 01:15 PM
Kahr P40 or P45. I also us a S&W 360PD .357.

TexasSkyhawk
July 10, 2008, 01:18 PM
I still like my Sig P220 when I HAVE to be 100% concealed.

Jeff

Buck Nekkid
July 10, 2008, 01:19 PM
Here's my suggestion: CZ RAMI in either 9 para or 40 S&W (my choice). It's small, powerful, & easy to carry (mine is carried IWB cross draw daily). It holds 8 +1 in 40 with a standard mag...plenty of ammo for most situations!

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/ottonsure/RAMIGlamour.jpg

SsevenN
July 10, 2008, 01:23 PM
CHeck out Kahr Arms.

All their guns are tailor made for comfortable and effective carry.

Any model will do as they are all single stack, very slim, DAO, smooth long triggers.

RNB65
July 10, 2008, 01:23 PM
Walther PPS.

Tom Connors
July 10, 2008, 01:31 PM
Sig 229 is my choice.

doc540
July 10, 2008, 01:36 PM
Colt DS w/Speer Gold Dot 135 gr

Simple, safe, effective, compact
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Detective%20Special/ds5-1.jpg

Or an even smaller Smith M36
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Model%2036/M36Houge1-1.jpg

Where'd it go?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Hogue%20Grips/suit1.jpg

rero360
July 10, 2008, 01:37 PM
Those thunderwear holster thingies can't be all that comfortable, especially when sitting down, both in the stomach and in the groin. I just tried carrying like that with my 1911 sans holster just to see what its like and thats not cool. I mean I'm no Ron Jeremy or anything but thats just too uncomfortable. PLus I'd hate the thought on an ND while carrying like that, I think I'll take a bullet to the butt cheek over that.

but to answer the OP, a good pistol to carry is one you actually carry and is dependable, one thatyou know will go bang everytime you pull the trigger.

Orange_Magnum
July 10, 2008, 01:39 PM
In a real life situation it must be a flat gun for concealability, a gun with a steady grip, a gun that does not require much of trigger pull, a gun that points naturally because you will open fire with the gun held at belly level as soon as the gun clears the holster, a gun that allows for fast reloading, a gun that will, on first hit, temporarily stop the attacker, a gun that does not flip too much from recoil. This means: A single stack semi-automatic with about 4" of barrel, single action, cocked with safety on.

doc540
July 10, 2008, 01:40 PM
I'm 5'10", 185lbs with somewhat of a gut and the SmartCarry/Colt is so comfortable I forget it's there when standing or sitting.

When you sit it lays almost flat across the top of your thigh kind of under your side pocket pouch.

It's only for those who have to carry in deep cover, but depending on your body shape it is very comfortable.

DoubleTapDrew
July 10, 2008, 01:40 PM
Compact and subcompact Glocks are popular. If you are used to the 1911 and like the grip angle take a look at the springfield XD line. They are like a Glock with a more 1911-ish grip angle since some people tend to point the Glocks high if not used to them.

doc540
July 10, 2008, 01:42 PM
"In a real life situation it must be a flat gun for concealability, a gun with a steady grip, a gun that does not require much of trigger pull, a gun that points naturally because you will open fire with the gun held at belly level as soon as the gun clears the holster, a gun that allows for fast reloading, a gun that will, on first hit, temporarily stop the attacker, a gun that does not flip too much from recoil. This means: A single stack semi-automatic with about 4" of barrel."

You mean flat like this? ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/MPvsSnub.jpg

or this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/glock642.jpg

Orange_Magnum
July 10, 2008, 02:05 PM
This gun, 9mm, has a 3.6" barrel and it's carried cocked and with safety on. The weight of solid steel makes it not jump too much on rapid firing. Light tigger pull. A spare magazine is carried at my belt. 8+7 rounds is comforting.

armoredman
July 10, 2008, 02:28 PM
While I always belive the CZ lineup makes excellent CCW and duty sized sidearms, i have to say - go with what you really like. If you really like that 1911, then start looking for a GOOD holster in an IWB flavor you like. A good belt and rig can make a huge differance. A KelTec P11 in an Uncle Mikes soft nylon clip on rig can be miles more uncomfortable than something substanially larger, like my CZ P01.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/advert3HBE.jpg

Go looking for a good rig, good belt, looser pants, and covering garments you like. Lots better than spending a fortune on a new pistol/rig/belt. Of course, if you simply MUST have a PO1, I certainly wouldn't try to talk you out of a new CZ!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZfamily.jpg

1911 guy
July 10, 2008, 03:24 PM
I openly admit to severe bias, but get a good gunbelt (I like Wilderness belts, personally) and a good holster for your 1911. I use both IWB and OWB. I find the OWB a bit more comfortable, but the IWB conceals a little better. Both my carry guns are 5" models, so compact guns aren't a necessity.

HOWEVER: if you've just got the hankering to get a new one, there have been some good recommendations so far.

LiquidTension
July 10, 2008, 03:35 PM
My carry guns are a Commander size 1911 and a S&W 642. The 642 gets carried most often.

bogie
July 10, 2008, 03:46 PM
1) If you leave it in the safe, it doesn't work very well.

2) If it doesn't 'point' naturally, it is fundamentally lacking as a self-defense weapon. This varies from weapon to weapon, and shooter to shooter. You gotta try 'em on, and make up your own mind. I won't carry a J-frame Smith, because they just don't feel right, and I have to -work- to aim. With me, a 1911 is like an extension of the booger hook...

3) You need to be comfortable with it. I know a guy who carries a full-size S&W revolver. And I mean -full- size. Concealed. And it's basically a part of him.

chubbmann
July 10, 2008, 04:05 PM
Thank you all for the wealth of information! I think I may just have to talk to my local gun shop about a good leather holster for my 1911 .45. If I can't get a good fit I think I may look into a small snubnose revolver and a pocket hulster. The right fit may be like another wallet.

KI.W.
July 12, 2008, 08:06 AM
It is Desert Eagle .50 AE. Only litte bad thing, When you are shooting, cases keep hitting to your fore head.

DWARREN123
July 12, 2008, 01:40 PM
I carry either a Glock 23 or 27 (40 S&W). I carry both in Don Hume IWB as cross draw, the 27 really disappears under a untucked shirt. Also very comfortable and easy to draw and great for driving.

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