cheap Sig p6/225's...reliable???


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JackBauerWannabe
July 10, 2008, 08:53 PM
Ok so a local surplus shop is about to get a batch of German surplus 225/P6's next week....they are saying that they will be selling them off for $280 including two clips and a holster. If my dad purchased one of these pistols it would be used primarily as a target shooter/plinker but in the house it would be packed with hollowpoints and used (hopefully never needed) as a home defense weapon. will this pistol be strong and reliable if its ever depended on to cycle powerful hollowpoint rounds? i know these things are solid with FMJ rounds....

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redneckrepairs
July 10, 2008, 08:56 PM
They will be no more or no less reliable than any other sig and should as sigs do eat about any ammo . I am thinking of picking one up myself to go with my german police p7 HK .

skinewmexico
July 10, 2008, 10:56 PM
Both of mine have run like tops so far. I did put a lighter spring in one of them, the DA trigger pull is a 1000 times better now. If you're really concerned, I think Sig will go thru it and replace anything that needs it for $79.

ronnieevans40
July 10, 2008, 10:59 PM
I have a 229 and also own a glock 22 both are in SW40 and I love my SIG....It will eat anything I put in it is easy to clean and SIG parts are pretty cheap. Sounds like you have a good deal......Ron

Tom Servo
July 10, 2008, 11:32 PM
The heavy trigger issue seems to vary quite a bit on the P225/P6. Mine came with a very good DA trigger, and most I've handled are good as well.

I have come across a couple with Waltheresque DA triggers on P225's made in the 1990's, but I've no idea why they came that way.

The surplus P6 specimens out there seem to be pretty good.

And, yeah, they're reliable 8-)

VHinch
July 10, 2008, 11:37 PM
As with any gun you may use in a defensive role, you need to ammo test for reliability with whatever ammo you choose as a self defense load.

Specific to the P6, some of these have the older barrel ramp and do not feed certain JHP's well, but if you do reliability testing as you should, you will find a JHP that will work.

JackBauerWannabe
July 11, 2008, 04:29 PM
thanks guys! www.aimsurplus.com is the place that will have them for $270...since i live close to their headquarters ill go down there and look through them when they get the shipment. Are there any tips you guys can give me on picking one out, or is it basically just about finding the one with the least amount of holster wear? i guess i need to do some research on choosing used guns....

rcmodel
July 11, 2008, 05:22 PM
Holster wear seems to be about it.

Apparently, the German Police are not big into shooting thier guns enough to actually ever wear them out.

rcmodel

Rinspeed
July 12, 2008, 09:43 AM
I've heard some of the 225s have issues with hollow points but I'm not so sure it's true.

armoredman
July 12, 2008, 09:51 AM
I am a dyed in the wool CZ man, but I wish I had the extra $ to grab a P6. I doubt we will ever see a deal on SiG like this again in our lifetimes.

PO2Hammer
July 12, 2008, 12:11 PM
My P6 (1978) looks like heck, but it's been 100%. I only have about 50 hollowpoints through it though.

Decent accuracy too.

Ukraine Train
July 12, 2008, 02:01 PM
Definitely get one! I traded for one at a gun show recently. The guy said he would have sold it for $300, though. Mine came with two magazines and had very minor wear. Some of the others at the show were very worn and some others looked as good as mine so try to get a handpick or if you're there in person ask to see a bunch of them and pick a good one. Magazines and spare parts are hard to find, that seems to be about the only issue with them. I shot mine yesterday for the first time. Around 60 WWB with no issues. The DA trigger is heavy but SA is nice. Just a little takeup and then a crisp break.

Rinspeed
July 12, 2008, 03:58 PM
Around 60 WWB with no issues. The DA trigger is heavy but SA is nice. Just a little takeup and then a crisp break.



Don't be afraid to dry fire the heck out of that 225. All my Sigs have seen thousands of dry fires with no problems. Not only does it help you to become a better shot it will smooth up the action nicely over time.

Dr_2_B
July 12, 2008, 08:37 PM
I doubt we will ever see a deal on SiG like this again in our lifetimes.
Definitely get one!

+1. I got one at a gunshow in the spring and I'm not even a big fan of sigs. But that gun at that price just can't be beat.

JackBauerWannabe
July 12, 2008, 10:51 PM
sounds good!!! i just found out that pro mag sells spare 225 clips for $30....both the normal 8 round and some extended 10 round one. and i guess if i needed anything else i would have Sig take care of me. sounds like i gotta be first in line when the shipment comes in!!!:D

ooh by the way....there really is no difference between the P6 and the 225 besides the fact that the P6's were just dedicated to the German cops...right??
i know the P6 has that little notched hammer but other then that they both are exactly the same? :rolleyes:

Dr_2_B
July 12, 2008, 11:00 PM
Not exactly the same. P6 has a (much) heavier double action trigger. You may actually hate it, but it's solved pretty easily. I haven't changed mine out, and I still CCW it. But I might change it for a 225 spring at some point. Single action pull is excellent.

Oh and do a little research on the promags. Heard some bad things about one of the aftermarket mag manufacturers and it may have been promag; I can't recall .

Rinspeed
July 13, 2008, 12:09 AM
Pro Mags are junk.

HankC
July 13, 2008, 09:55 AM
P25/P6 grips and mags are hard to find. otherwise, a great gun.

Dees
July 13, 2008, 08:10 PM
Thinking of picking up a P6 but I have some questions. I owned a 229 for a while but ended up getting rid of it because the grip was just a bit too large for my hands.

Is the grip of the P6, being a single stack, any smaller? Would you say the P6 carries better than a 229?

evan price
July 13, 2008, 10:50 PM
Yes, smaller grip, should therefore for you carry better. The only "issue" then is the P6 sights are all black, no white dots or anything. Easy to fix, tho'!

skinewmexico
July 14, 2008, 01:08 AM
Hi-Viz has front sights on closeout.

highorder
July 14, 2008, 02:01 AM
The only "issue" then is the P6 sights are all black, no white dots or anything.

My P6 sights are the standard Sig dot-bar arrangement. Mine was made in 1992.

rcmodel
July 14, 2008, 12:38 PM
I took my white-dot stock SIG P6 sights off and put Meprolites on.

I would have much rather had all black sights on mine in the first place, because the white-dots just wash out the sight picture in bright sunlight.

rcmodel

evan price
July 15, 2008, 01:53 AM
I examined literally dozens of them and all had black sights. These were all 1985 and older models, though. Maybe I overgeneralized. Apologies!

rcmodel
July 15, 2008, 11:44 AM
No apologies necessary.

Mine has an 11/97 BOD, and came with standard white-dot sights.

rcmodel

rcmodel
July 15, 2008, 04:41 PM
I just noticed today that Dan's now has P6's that have been professionally refinished for $299.00.

Includes extra magazine, mag pouch, holster, cleaning kit.
Some sort of Shake & Bake finish with molybdenum disulfide.

http://www.dansammo.com/firearms.asp

rcmodel

Meowhead
July 15, 2008, 05:20 PM
Mine has been good enough to cycle everything loaded into it. Once upon a time I mixed up a bowl of 9mm which included modern defense ammunition, snap caps, ball of several varieties, some truly ancient hollowpoints I bought just for testing the gun, even spent casings. Everything loaded and extracted without a problem.

goon
July 15, 2008, 05:29 PM
A SIG P-6 will probably be a reliable, solid handgun.
But make sure your dad is OK with only two magazines because everywhere I've checked they're completely out of extras and Promags are known to be suitable only as paperweights and for recycling.

Zeabed
July 15, 2008, 05:49 PM
I bought a Sig P225-9-B new w. 2 mags for $500 at a Miami gun show in March 2002. I still have it, along with a High Noon holster and several spare MecGar mags that I purchased several years ago. At the range it's proven reliable and accurate. It fits my hand better than the P228, which I also have.

357wheelgunner
July 15, 2008, 06:40 PM
Mec-Gar made magazines for the P225?

blkbrd666
July 15, 2008, 06:58 PM
ProMags are junk. I bought two of them because there isn't anything else available. I filled and emptied each of them 3 times at the range with WWB and they never failed. I would never buy another one because no matter what I tried, they fed every single round just like the factory mags did. The only thing I could find different between the ProMags and the factory mag is that the ProMag has a much nicer finger rest/butt plate than the factory mag. ProMag also had the nerve to number each of the holes on the side of the mag so you can tell how many rounds are in them. I wouldn't want to use the ProMags in a defense situation...it just wouldn't be sporting without a feed failure.

Dravur
July 15, 2008, 08:35 PM
and I love em. my main one was born on 8/83 and is in GREAT shape Just minor finish wear.

A few months ago, I was at Tanner and I bought every P6/225 mag I could find. Even got a stainless one. I carry this gun occasionally.

I did the same thing as others. I mixed a bowl of random ammo and it shot everything well, except some really long hollow point that I had a few of.

I love em and for the price, they cannot be beat...

JackBauerWannabe
July 15, 2008, 10:08 PM
wait....so blkbrd666, are you saying that promags ARE junk, or that they are NOT junk? the only reason why i'd have my dad get extra pro mags would be so we arent stuffing rounds with our thumbs all the time at the range, they probably would never be heavily relied on. we dont plan on getting in any gunfights anytime soon, but if the occasion would arrise, the two stock sig clips would be grabbed first.

evan price
July 16, 2008, 02:25 AM
ProMags, if they function OK, would probably be OK for range mags, I personally grew to hate my ProMags for my P220 and sold them all off to buy factory SIG mags. Since that was a P220, they are available.

For my P6, I am waiting for Mecgar mags since I heard they are reviving production of them (they make Sig mags for them).

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