awaiting surgery


July 11, 2008, 10:40 AM
I just put some new rubber on the KLR650 last Thursday:D (TKC80s)
Looks good right?
I managed a nice hi-speed get off in the Natl. Forest last weekend resulting in this
Surgery is Tuesday to repair, and I'll be out of work until the end of next week. I need some ideas for movies to watch, and books to read. I just finished "World Made by Hand" and will have "2012" done by the weekend. Anything along those lines.... I know the wreck is not not "gun related" but the media I seek advise on is, and the main reason I'm paying for the surgery is that without it my rifle shooting days may be limited to RF...
Yes, I'm lefthanded:(

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July 11, 2008, 10:44 AM
Have you read "Lights Out" already? I can post the link if you have not. It is a very good read, written by one of the members here. And it is available online in pdf format.

July 11, 2008, 10:49 AM
If you haven't seen them yet.
Enemy at the Gates
Saving Private Ryan
Full Metal Jacket
The Longest Day
Supersize Me (just an eye opener everyone needs to see)
Boondock Saints

July 11, 2008, 10:55 AM
Please post the link to "lights out". I had forgotten about that one, and have been meaning to read it for awhile:D

yesit'sloaded- Seen 'em all. I own most of them! I'm getting ready to update my Netflix Que, and need some more great ideas though!!

July 11, 2008, 10:58 AM
Wow that sucks sorry to hear that!

July 11, 2008, 11:26 AM
hope you recover quickly and glad you werent injured more severely.

I have hi-sided a couple times and i know its not fun (tore some ligaments in my shoulder)

Keep it rubber side down.

July 11, 2008, 01:08 PM
Here you go. Good luck with the surgery as well.

July 11, 2008, 01:34 PM
join the club! i did this last April on my XR250. mine healed this way. it sucks.


July 11, 2008, 01:36 PM
Bobby, I have heard lotsa horror stories about not shooting rifles after a break like these- what are your views on it?

July 11, 2008, 01:39 PM
Swift, Thanks for the link!

July 11, 2008, 01:46 PM

i couldn't shoot for about 8 months until it healed. i'm right handed and busted my left collar bone. it took a year and lots of physical therapy to recover from but i can shoot just fine now either right or left handed. if i had it plated, recovery would have been less than half but i had no health insurance and didn't have the $15k it would have cost. i can even shoot 100 rounds of trap left handed now if i want to. at the time i broke it, it was the most PITA break i've had to date (and i've broken 14 bones!) but now its just more annoying than anything. if you're getting yours plated, (DON'T get it pinned) you'll be good to go in less than 3 months. it does suck in the mean time though. you have my sympathies. you'll be fine as long as the Doc is good. plus you'll have a cool new scar. chicks dig scars :)


July 11, 2008, 02:07 PM
Yeah, plate and screws. The guy that's doing it is pretty well liked in the sports Ortho area around here, and has worked on lots of FSU athletes, gymnasts, etc. He said I'd have full range of motion back in a week or less, and be close to 100% in two to three months. I plan to be back on the bike in less that a month on-road and riding trails soon after on my XT225

July 11, 2008, 02:11 PM
As I've said before, nice looking bike.

But the other pic is why I quit riding.
Can't afford the mechanics and replacement parts for the black-and-white model.

Hope you heal quickly.

July 11, 2008, 02:13 PM
Get the PBS series "The War" by Ken Burns. Six DVDs should keep your interest for a while, especially if you like guns of the WWII era. The footage and interviews are excellent.

July 11, 2008, 02:59 PM
Can't afford the mechanics and replacement parts for the black-and-white model.

Amen brother. I want a ROLL CAGE around my soft little organics these days!

July 11, 2008, 03:18 PM
If your looking for some good books I recommend the Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler. Great Fictional adventures that feature some neat guns.

July 11, 2008, 03:26 PM
FreeHold. Libertarian capitalist planet goes to war with a UN run earth. Available for free in HTML format from Baen Books.
A Hym before battle. Alien invasion scenario. also available for free from Baen Books.

Das Boot

maestro pistolero
July 11, 2008, 03:57 PM
Time to start shooting 'weak side'. It's not as bad as you think. Take everything you've learned about shooting, and "teach" it to your off hand to work the trigger!

July 11, 2008, 03:59 PM
FreeHold. Libertarian capitalist planet goes to war with a UN run earth. Available for free in HTML format from Baen Books.
A Hym before battle. Alien invasion scenario. also available for free from Baen Books.
Lots of good stuff in the baen free library.

July 11, 2008, 04:10 PM
Just ask for some good pain medication, I think you may need it. Don't ask how I know.:uhoh:

July 11, 2008, 04:29 PM
W.E.G. Tanks! I Love my KLR- it's the bike for utilitarianism!:)

MGShaggy, That's the stuff that'll get me through!! Thanks

GlowinPontiac, and Souris, Will check 'em out- Thanks!

maestro pistolero, I got that covered already- I probably shoot 90% as well from the weak side, but why limit myself?;)

Dwarren- Minimum Narcotics for me -thanks, but I deal better with pain...

CSA 357
July 11, 2008, 07:46 PM
Buzz, Sorry Too Hear About This , Hope You Are Better Soon, I Was Bed Ridden For Eight Weeks Jaw Wired Shut , Like To Have Starved To Death!!!!! But Im Ok Now Back Up To 265# Good Luck Man! Csa

July 11, 2008, 07:52 PM
Recovering from my surgery myself that was done in april, I was rear ended in my work truck last september. Had a spinal fusion preformed on my lower back. Good Luck, hope things go well.

July 11, 2008, 08:18 PM
Supersize Me (just an eye opener everyone needs to see)

Not to criticize you, but the clips of that movie I saw were just more hippie anti-corporation BS. You know, blaming Mac Donalds for making people fat, not the people for eating a lot of Mac Donalds.

As to books: anything by Crichton, Clancy, or Grisham will probably be good, along with the Ian Fleming James Bond books.

The Annoyed Man
July 11, 2008, 08:21 PM
Why the surgery? When my brother bailed off his TZ250 at the exit of turn 4 at Willow Springs, his x-ray pics looked just like that. The ER at at Antelope Valley Medical Center gave him a brace to wear and sent him on his way. His ortho followup doctor told him to keep wearing the brace until he the bone was knit. That's what he did. He now has a small bump on his collar bone.

5 years of racing, and I never bailed off on a race track myself. I guess I wasn't going fast enough. :D

Nearly got killed 3 times on the street.

July 11, 2008, 08:29 PM
I don't know where to find it online anymore, but the novel Cold Camp is pretty dang good. Similar to a Lights Out sort of thing, only the US collapses and is turned over to the UN. Very good read.

If you can't find it, you can PM your email and I'll send you a copy. It's a .pdf, and not in print. If I remember right, it's by Halffast (same guy that wrote Lights Out.)

I have no idea who wrote it, but Deep Winter is also decent. I've got that in a word document.

Not gun related, really, but Communion of Dreams was an EXCELLENT read, and I do believe the author is one of our very own here on THR.

Good luck, I hope you heal up fast and properly!

July 11, 2008, 09:00 PM
Looks like a broken collar bone to me. I had a deer encounter with my VFR about 6 weeks ago and I wish I just broke the collar bone.

I have an A.C. separation which is a tear of the tendons or ligaments (forgot which) that hold the bones together. It is a stage 2 separation that will heal and should not hinder me from any activities including weight lifting according to a friend that had the same thing.

I just have to give up my part time job as a swimsuit model because of the large bump that will be there for keeps.:p

It has not effected my shooting and even though I still feel its effects, it is getting better. I only wish I had broken the collar bone. Any docs looking at the picture will see that the collar bone has been broken before but seemed to heal quite nicely.

July 11, 2008, 09:36 PM
The Unit Season 1 & 2 should take you about 30hrs to watch on DVD, fictional special forces TV series.


July 11, 2008, 09:38 PM
My brother had a similar injury (X-rays were very similar to yours) when he was little. A kid in karate class was responsible for inflicting the injury.

My brother fortunately healed without surgery though.

Good luck. While there, ask for the good stuff. :) Dilaudid does the trick for me. No pain and puts me to sleep for hours. When in pain after surgery, there's nothing better I've found. That's just me though. Everybody responds differently to pain meds. I can only tolerate Dilaudid and Demoral. Morphine messes me up.

I don't remember anything, but supposedly after I had bowel resection surgery, the same day, on Morphine I got out of bed hallucinating and talking about needing to study my books (I didn't have any books with me). Mind you, because I was obese at the time, they did not fully sew me up, so I was getting out of bed with my stomach cut open and still half open and walking.

What is so bizarre about that beyond the obvious, is that after they switched meds to something that didn't make me loopy, I was unable to get out of bed voluntarily for days because of the pain. To think I got out of bed on the first day right after surgery, half cut open still, totally zombied-out just is really really weird.

Anyways, there's no point to that story other than to amuse you. I still say ask for the good stuff after surgery. :)

July 11, 2008, 09:49 PM
I watched a lot of UFC (I have several DVD's) and old John Wayne and Clint Eastwood westerns last year when I was laid up with my back (Burst Fractured L1 and had a laminectomy and fusion of T11-L2).

Good luck with your surgery.

Doggy Daddy
July 11, 2008, 09:52 PM
How about The Salton Sea ( Have you seen that one? It's one of those that I have to re-view every so often.

And for laughs, my go-to movie is Office Space (

July 12, 2008, 01:53 AM
As to books: anything by Crichton, Clancy, or Grisham will probably be good, along with the Ian Fleming James Bond books.I would add Dale Brown and Vince Flynn to that, and if you can find him, Clay Harvey.

July 12, 2008, 02:05 AM
Movies: anything with John Wayne of course
Clint Eastwood's "spagetti westerns"
Steve McQueen in The Sand Pebbles, Tom Horn, The Magnificent Seven, and Bullitt
Enemy at the Gates
The Great Raid
Man on Fire

Books (authors): Richard Steinberg
Harold Coyle
Tony Hillerman
and Joel Rosenburg

Hope your recovery goes fast and you get back to shooting soon!

July 12, 2008, 02:06 AM
as for a book, do you only want fiction, or would non-fiction be ok too?

July 12, 2008, 08:01 AM
All great stuff so far! Fiction, non-fiction I really don't care. Movies are the same. I have been racking my brain to remember some of the movies that I loved, and ya'll are more than helpful bringing those to the front of my mind again.

I have no doubt that I'd heal well enough without surgery, like many of you stated. I simply need to get everything back together asap so I can go back to work, and get on with my life. The repair will help the healing process greatly, and also make for a stronger bone in the future.

I'm already about half way through Lights Out- Good stuff!

July 12, 2008, 09:07 AM
Whoops. Thank God that's all that happened. I hope you're alright. That will hurt but after you'll be good as new. That's a pretty common motorcycle injury as well as broken wrists as you fly over the handlebars. Good luck and for God's sake "let's be careful out there". How's the motorcycle?

July 12, 2008, 09:21 AM
for reading you might check out-
-"band of brothers" -by stephen e. ambrose
-"inside delta force"- by eric l. haney
-"silent warrior" and "marine sniper"- both books on carlos hathcock

and for films....
-band of brothers- nice and long at about 12 hours after reading the book by ambrose.
-the bunker
-the outpost
-deathwatch--all of which are kind of zombie/war/undead nazi type films
-the unit season 1&2 ...previously mentioned.
-all 4 rambo movies...mindless entertainment

sorry to hear about your collar bone...i had a knee injury (torn ACL) that laid me up for awhile, so i know how boring life can be between bouts of physical therapy.
good luck!

July 12, 2008, 09:38 AM
How's the motorcycle?
Bars are bent, but other than that the sand was kind to it. I have been wanting to put some ProTaper Aluminum bars on it anyway.

Deathwatch? I'll check that out-

July 12, 2008, 01:38 PM
Pro Tapers rock! i went through several sets of steel bars and cheapie aluminum ones. one small spill and they're bent. i ante'd up and put Pro-Tapers on it after that, along with Acerbis bar guards. when i wrecked and busted my clavilce, i slammed head long into a 3 foot boulder in the middle of the trail around a blind left hand turn and the bike took a mighty smack but the bars didn't bend. just the left footpeg which i pounded out with a hammer. the XR is a tank and the Pro Tapers are strong! wish i had held up as well as the bike. i was wearing a Dainese summer jacket and that saved me from a lot more injuries. gear works! i haven't ridden dirt in a quite a while but i still ride the streetbike a lot. can't give that up. :)


July 12, 2008, 10:20 PM
I have the Acrebis Hand Guards already, and they helped a bunch, but the bars still bent. The ProTapers are supposed to be the real deal!
Shoulder was hurting quite a bit today...

July 12, 2008, 11:31 PM
"Lights Out" is a good read.

July 13, 2008, 08:50 AM
The best advice I can give you Buzztail is to get active as fast as you can after surgery. It will help the healing and recovery. I was back at work 5 weeks after breaking my back and back in the woods hunting a week later. My surgeon released me from his care at 3 months instead of the usual year.

Don't overdo anything and hurt yourself and don't go against doctor's orders, but do as much as you are physically able as soon as you are physically able.

Again best of luck.

If you're just up for some fun fiction look at the books of James Rollins.

I also like the works of Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child (usually write as a duo, but some individual works too).

July 13, 2008, 10:03 AM
Thank you Sir. I must return to work as a machinist a week from Monday "ready" or not". I'll be keeping plenty active no worries there;)

July 13, 2008, 10:08 AM
Just as a funny aside:

My wife went with me to my 6 week post op checkup. I'd been back at work a week already, and was really hoping he would clear me to shoot and hunt so I could go hunting the next day (my appt was on a Friday).

So before I can ask, my wife says, "So doctor, what about any activity restrictions at this point". You see she didn't want me to go back hunting the next day. My broken back was due to a treestand fall afterall.

The doctor kind of smiled a little because he got the impression she was interested in "other activities" not being restricted.


July 14, 2008, 09:37 AM
So, I just finished Lights Out. GREAT READ!!
I go under the knife tomorrow, I'll post the results as soon as I can. Thank you for all of the good thoughts!

July 17, 2008, 06:30 AM
they found a little more damage then expected during surgery, so it took a bit more time. Recovery time has been pushed out a little too. I'm feeling pretty good right now, and plan on keeping it that way. thank everyone for the kind words and recomemdations! I have another couple of days at home, then I'll try to get back to work next week.

July 17, 2008, 02:27 PM
i'm glad to hear you're on the road to recovery. were the surgeons able to repair the damage? hope you can get back up to speed soon. thanks for the update.


July 17, 2008, 02:34 PM
They got everything screwed together. It just too longer than expected. Follow up Monday- I should have new x-rays

September 27, 2008, 12:29 PM
Forgot to post the "after" X-ray

Art Eatman
September 27, 2008, 02:44 PM
Way OT.

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