Which 9mm and 40 pistols to reload?
Five of Clubs
July 12, 2008, 08:35 PM
With ammo costs rising I recently began acquiring the gear to reload 45 ACP for my 1911. Part of that process was picking up range brass at my outdoor club following a USPSA match. The first time out I scored about 170 45 cases, but I also hauled in 400 9mm and 500 40S&W cases. My first thought was to keep picking up brass and sell the calibers I didn't want to reload, but they really aren't worth all that much and I now think I just need to buy 9mm and 40S&W pistols and shoot those too. My question is this: which makes of those calibers are particularly gentle on ejected brass?
I noticed that some of the 40S&W cases were consistently flattened on one side and had distinct primer strike marks. I'm not sure what pistol they were shot from, but I don't want one. Neither of these two new pistols would need to be carried as I already have that covered, but I do have some guidelines. I would like for one of them to be a high capacity with a light rail to share nightstand duty with the 1911. The other I would like to be less than full size to be used as a part time glove box gun.
Price of course is an issue. I actually hope to hear that CZ s are easy on brass because I have always wanted one. I have just never examined spent cases until recently and I thought you folks may be of some help. THANKS:)
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DWARREN123
July 12, 2008, 09:37 PM
I had a CZ Compact in 40 S&W that was fairly easy to reload for. I now reload the 40 cal for Glocks (23-27) and find they are easy also. Brass with some dents or out of round will work also, the resizing die will take care of them.
On my 40 S&W die set I trimed the bottom of the resizer die and surface ground the top of the case holder so I could get the die down lower on the case.
works well for me.
Five of Clubs
July 12, 2008, 10:17 PM
Have you replaced the barrels on your Glocks? As I understand it, that's the safe play but I don't really want to buy a pistol and replace a brand new barrel.
RustyFN
July 12, 2008, 10:49 PM
You can reload for a glock with a factory barrel. The only time you need to buy an after market barrel is if you want to shoot lead. I reload 9mm for a Glock 17.
Rusty
Z-Michigan
July 12, 2008, 10:58 PM
I have a CZ40B - it is very easy on brass (.40). If CDNN still has them, they are a steal at $289.99. Highly recommend. They also work perfectly with 12rd CZ75 (.40 cal) magazines from Mec-Gar, which are cheaper than the 10rd CZ-40 magazines.
All my 9mm pistols are easy on 9mm brass - three Rugers, a Steyr, and a Springfield XD. Of those I see little difference, but would guess the Ruger is easiest on the brass, and they are also 100% reliable (the XD is 99.99% too). I think the Glocks and Kahrs tend to be hardest on brass, but I don't own either one.
I have to admire your take on buying two new handguns just because you have some spare brass. Keep it up!
ants
July 13, 2008, 01:00 AM
Wise decision, Five of Clubs, to buy two new pistols. Reloading saves you money, and thus you can shoot more. With two new pistols, you will generate even more brass, which will be very economical because then you can load and shoot even more!
Be sure you get the pistols that you would like to own and shoot. Don't make a choice of pistol because it makes nice brass, choose a pistol because you like to shoot it. You can deprime and resize virtually any case until it has been loaded too many times and failure is eminent. Don't be scared or fooled by people who say you cannot load brass fired from certain pistols. The rest of us load them all the time successfully.
schmeky
July 13, 2008, 08:09 AM
Sounds like you're hoping a CZ is easy on brass. They are. They all share the same basic internals, at least my 75, SP, 97, and 40B do. I have not shot the 40B yet, but the 45 and 9mm CZ's are easy on brass.
Using light loads (5.0gn Silhoutte for example behind a 115 FMJ, 9mm) I have loaded the same cases over a dozen times and still going. No dents or ejector marked up cases either.
grimjaw
July 13, 2008, 01:07 PM
Both my P01 and PCR CZs are fairly easy on brass from what I can tell. I haven't tried reloading yet, but I've been collecting 9mm from these two and brass isn't dented, flattened, or scraped up much.
jm
RustyFN
July 13, 2008, 01:30 PM
CZ is a great gun. I have a CZ75 BD police in 9mm and I love it. Like the rest said it's easy on brass. The only thing I noticed with the CZ is with some bullet profiles I have to seat deeper than I would for a different gun to get the round to chamber. No big deal, reduce the load and work it up. You should be doing that anyway.
Rusty
Five of Clubs
July 13, 2008, 02:52 PM
Thanks guys for all the responses. I'm very happy to hear that CZs are a good choice for a (new) reloader. What about the polymer guns? I do intend to shoot lead rounds through them so I know that can make pistols like a Glock a little more expensive. Are there any of them that I should actively avoid if I plan to reload? Thanks again.
DWARREN123
July 13, 2008, 05:42 PM
I have not replaced my factory stock barrels. I do not see a need too since they work well with all ammo. Of all the brands of 40 cal pistols I have messed with I have really not seen one hard to reload for.
As for Glocks 3 gen chambers give pretty good support, I have heard the 1st and 2d gen barrels had less chamber support.
Just my experience.
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