Colt Detective Special


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Whitewolf 508
July 13, 2008, 01:51 AM
I have seen a number of clubs dedicated to the various S&W revolvers. How about a club dedicated to the Detective Special?

I first encountered the DS when I was around 10 years old when a friend of my father's who was a NY State Police BCI investigator came over for dinner and took off his jacket and I saw the gun. After dinner, he and my great uncle had a friendly competiton- his DS vs.Rob's 1911. He did very well which was a surprise considering Rob's shooting skills.

I ran into him again in the 1970's after he had retired. His retirement gift was a brand new nickel plated DS with the shrouded barrel. I was quite impressed with the gun. As far as I know he never shot it.

Later on when I obtained my permit, I hunted for the perfect DS. I found it 5 years ago and have been carrying it daily ever since.

I like the way the grip fits my hand and the extra shot. Speedloaders for this fit my Model 19 also and I am not hesitant to use Plus P loads in it as long as I do not over do.

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doc540
July 13, 2008, 01:56 AM
Here's my application to join

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Detective%20Special/ds5-1.jpg

Guillermo
July 13, 2008, 06:47 AM
Here's my application

csmkersh
July 13, 2008, 11:33 AM
This could almost be a charter membership application;


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/csmkersh/Guns/ColtDetectiveSpecial-1.jpg

NCBeagle
July 13, 2008, 01:59 PM
This will be one of my favorite threads ever.

Here is one Detective Special...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/DSIII.jpg

and a pair of 1975 Cobras.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/1975Cobras-2.jpg

Boats
July 13, 2008, 04:54 PM
I like mine better than any J-Frame I have ever owned or shot.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=81384&d=1215978723

Ala Dan
July 13, 2008, 07:06 PM
but please count me in~! I own 3x second series (1947-1972) Colt
Detective Specials; as well as a late '72 [or very early '73?] Colt
Agent. The two blued DS's are all original, and date back to 1966;
while the 1971 factory nickel DS has only been test fired a total
of six times; and is in pristine condition. The Colt Agent is from
the "first run" of the second series Agent's; as it has a glossy
blue finish, with the same grips as the earlier model DS's. All
of these are 'safe queens", to eventually be passed down to
my daughter and grand-daughter~! ;) :D

prescobd
July 13, 2008, 08:53 PM
Also no pictures. I have 4 Colt D frame snubs:
2" SF-VI
2" DS-II
3" DS-II
2" Agent (80's version, parkerized)

Also, have 2 4" D frames
Police Positive Special MKV
SF-VI

Vern Humphrey
July 13, 2008, 09:05 PM
Also no pics, but I have a 2nd series that I picked up for $225 a few years back. I made an IWB holster for it and added a Tyler T-grip. Great carry gun!

GunTech
July 13, 2008, 09:33 PM
Not the greatest pic

http://guntech.com/revolver/dick_special.jpg

pogo2
July 13, 2008, 10:23 PM
I bought the one below new in 1993 or so, and have shot it quite a bit at the range. I have carried it in a DeSantis speed scabbard and it conceals very well. I especially like the trigger feel on this gun, both single and double action.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/IMG_1668.jpg

MarshallDodge
July 13, 2008, 10:36 PM
This is Mrs. Dodge's that had been pimped a little when I got it:
http://home.comcast.net/~fun2shoot/colt38small.jpg

It may be for sale if Springfield gets the bugs out of her EMP.

Frizzman
July 14, 2008, 11:05 AM
I don't have any pictures but I do have a Defective Special, a Cobra and an Agent...My favorite "snub" revolvers!!!Sign me up!!!

sarge83
July 14, 2008, 11:29 AM
Love my CDS!

Frank Ettin
July 14, 2008, 11:54 AM
I like mine. It's like what Joe Friday carried in the original Dragnet.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/fiddletown_2006/ColtRev/IMG_4545E2.jpg

Works okay too.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/fiddletown_2006/ColtRev/IMG_4516E2.jpg

cmidkiff
July 14, 2008, 01:19 PM
Sign me up...

I love my little Colt.

http://www.midkiff.us/image.php?pic=gunpics/ColtDS.jpg&width=400

mustachio
July 14, 2008, 01:25 PM
Here's my entry into the club.
http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/35955/2176491840103493976S425x425Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2176491840103493976PVjcAO)

Cosmoline
July 14, 2008, 01:27 PM
Call me a luddite, but I don't think snubs ever got any better than the DS. My carry piece is from cira 1953.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/Gussick/coltcorona.jpg

pogo2
July 14, 2008, 09:50 PM
Cosmoline:

Your Detective Special is from 1953 but your computer keyboard behind it looks like Smith Corona 1938 or so.

ak-kev
July 14, 2008, 10:31 PM
I absolutely love mine. I cant get enough of them. Here they are. You just cant go wrong with the Colt!! :p

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3858.jpg

Cosmoline
July 14, 2008, 11:14 PM
Your Detective Special is from 1953 but your computer keyboard behind it looks like Smith Corona 1938 or so.

I'm afraid I have "retro" tastes in a lot of things. IIRC I calculated the SN on that maroon S-C to about 1933. I have a similar black standard portable from 1940 and it has a number of additional features. The modern economy can collapse and oil can sell for $1,000 a barrel, but all the items in that photo will still be working 100%. I'd be happy if I could clank away on my S-C in the office while smoking a pipe and listening to Paul Whiteman on the crystal set.

Get off my lawn you kids!

Blacksmoke
July 14, 2008, 11:18 PM
When my ex-wife wanted a handgun, the DS was what I got her. She was not much of a shooter but really liked this gun. I tried swapping it from here with a S&W Ladysmith. No dice. I tried a Walther PPKs, no dice. She really kind of fell into the Colt mystique.

It is about the perfect CCW piece.

CZ 75 BD
July 14, 2008, 11:27 PM
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q43/MasFutbol/HPIM1311.jpg

One is 1965 the other 1968 I believe. How about them pimp grips?

Euclidean
July 15, 2008, 09:51 AM
Poor picture, the finish actually looks much nicer than this but here you go:

http://i34.tinypic.com/evb221.jpg

longears9
July 15, 2008, 10:29 AM
I met my 1st Colt DS back in the 60s. A local sheriff deputy and friend of the family carried it as a back up gun while on duty and also when off duty. I bought one back in 84 and have carried it and have had fun with it ever since.I purchased a Bianchi 8L Shadow holster for it and have found the holster to be very comfortable. It rides high enough to be easily concealable. Having large hands, I installed Pachmayr grips. This gun is strickly self defense and with 6 shoots and it's smooth action it's the best I've ever owned in a 38sp.

rainbowbob
July 15, 2008, 12:51 PM
I'd be happy if I could clank away on my S-C in the office while smoking a pipe and listening to Paul Whiteman on the crystal set.

Get off my lawn you kids!

Nice...Give that man a cigar!

I love my S&W Chiefs Special...but I'm smitten by these Detective Specials. I keep hearing about the smooth triggers - and there is something about a six-shooter...

BillinNH
July 15, 2008, 05:02 PM
-I keep hearing about the smooth triggers -

Well, it's true. Smoothest trigger of all six of my revolvers. Or any others I've shot.

Bill

mnw42
July 15, 2008, 11:11 PM
Does a Cobra count?

http://www.docstech.com/pertinax/arms/cobra3-50.jpg

rainbowbob
July 15, 2008, 11:15 PM
Well, it's true. Smoothest trigger of all six of my revolvers. Or any others I've shot.

That is saying something...I've got to try one out.

Logan5
July 16, 2008, 12:19 AM
Well... I've got an Agent and a Cobra, and I'd say the triggers are very good. Trying to think how many other Colt revolvers I have... but long story short, I'm not singing and dancing over these triggers, but still, very good.

SergeantC
July 16, 2008, 12:47 AM
Here's my DS:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/DenCoslett/100_0382.jpg

And here's my Cobra:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n80/DenCoslett/100_0354.jpg

The DS is from 1968, and the Cobra is from 1954.

It'll give you some idea of what I think of them when I reveal that I don't even have a Smith J-Frame. With these two Colts, I don't feel the need for one.

Maia007
July 16, 2008, 11:55 PM
Great photo, Cosmo.

Sorry, nothing to add........but put me down on record as a wannabe.

lentuk
July 17, 2008, 05:41 PM
How about an Agent.
http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n358/longbowman/P9020033.jpg

csmkersh
July 17, 2008, 05:43 PM
I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who bobs hammers. Nice looking Agent.

sixgunner455
July 17, 2008, 06:29 PM
1970 DS, blue, rubber hogue monogrip (yeah, I know, but it's so nice to shoot with it on).

Peter M. Eick
July 19, 2008, 03:44 PM
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/ds_target.jpg

Fun guns, but I regret not finding one with a serrated front sight.

NCBeagle
August 2, 2008, 01:00 AM
A few more...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/DSCN0210.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/DSCN0218.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/DSCN0225.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/DSCN0228.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Prosecutor/DSCN0219.jpg

Hunter0924
August 2, 2008, 03:26 AM
Here is my 1972 Detective Special (along with me Gold Cup Trophy).
She is one of my favorites.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/Hunter1911/2006_03220012.jpg

Cocked & Locked
August 2, 2008, 05:32 AM
Here is mine from 1947. Does anyone know what Police Dept. stamped their guns with NPD ?

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/328094327.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/328094305.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/328094192.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/328094196.jpg

collector14
August 2, 2008, 08:38 PM
I'm in! Love the pictures!

http://www.guncollectorsclub.com/images/Colt_detective_special_32/colt_det_spec_031.JPG

Cosmoline
August 2, 2008, 09:10 PM
Well the good news is I managed to secure half a dozen boxes of vintage .38 special wadcutters for $12 each, at an otherwise lifeless gunshow. The bad news is my "V" mainspring broke after half a century of good service. I have an old spare but I'm not 100% sure of it. Anyone know of a source for these?

oneounceload
August 2, 2008, 09:35 PM
I have my dad's....a 1928/9 that was his "off-duty" gun

JB Books
August 2, 2008, 09:54 PM
I have a blued and Nickel DS

An agent with a bobbed hammer

and a Cobra

Love them

Do the Tyler grips fit any revolver? I have two sets that came with a S&W K-22 and Model 14. I was thinking about putting them on the Cobra.

doc540
August 3, 2008, 01:08 PM
"I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who bobs hammers. Nice looking Agent."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Detective%20Special/DS1.jpg

It's the Bobbed and Checkered Show!

Hawk
August 3, 2008, 01:20 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=58111&d=1179196156

From 1973, if I'm reading proofhouse right.

I tend to view the trigger as "so-so" but quite servicable.

SlamFire1
August 3, 2008, 03:17 PM
My first DS's. Cop turn ins.

PIPP stands for Palisades Interstate Parkway Police. http://www.usacops.com/nj/p07620pip/index.html

After getting the Colt letter that indicated shipment of both DS's to Alpine New Jersey on the same day, about 1930, I called the Department up. DS's were issued to the Parkway Police Detectives. Great guys to talk to. The chrome one was the personal sidearm of Chief Pfeiffer (spelling uncertain). It had been chromed by a guy in the department. As you can see from the butt wear, Chief Pfeiffer carried this revolver for years.

The other one has been carried less.

I have shot them both, Chief's revolver is a little out of time, but both will put the bullet where you aim them.

Neat to have two DS's that went through the Depression, WWII, the 50's, 60's, and were finally turned in for exchange to Lawman Supply in the 80's.

Wish they could speak.


PIPP No 36J

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/ReducedColtDS416264PIPPNo36JDSCN585.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/ButtstampingReducedColtDS416264PIPP.jpg

PIPP No 35J

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/ReducedRightSidePIPP35JP7200002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/ReducedLeftsidePIPP35JP7200005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/ReducedPIPPNo35JstampingP7200013.jpg

Ala Dan
August 3, 2008, 04:01 PM
Great story there SlamFire1 my friend. Much like you, I wish your
old Colt's could speak; as there is just no telling what kind'a stories we
folk's might learn~!

Att: Cocked & Locked my friend-

I know this is just a guess on my part, but for some reason the initials
NPD make me think maybe it stands for Newark (NJ) Police Department?
It would be exciting too forward an inquiry to their deaprtment, to find
out for sure.

Ed from Maine
August 3, 2008, 06:08 PM
My Cobra, DS 3rd and DS 1st...

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e245/Ed_333/Colt%20Snubs/

SergeantC
August 3, 2008, 07:34 PM
Cocked & Locked: could it be the Norfolk Police Department? That might actually make a certain amount of sense, considering you are from N.C.

cherryriver
August 3, 2008, 10:15 PM
The only first place I ever made was with mine, in an IDPA backup gun side match. It's not much, but there you go.
http://www.fishertransmission.com/images/DSrose.jpg

Cocked & Locked
August 4, 2008, 01:01 AM
Att: Cocked & Locked my friend-

I know this is just a guess on my part, but for some reason the initials
NPD make me think maybe it stands for Newark (NJ) Police Department?
It would be exciting too forward an inquiry to their deaprtment, to find
out for sure.

Cocked & Locked: could it be the Norfolk Police Department? That might actually make a certain amount of sense, considering you are from N.C.

Newark and Norfolk are to good guesses. Some folks also suggest Niagara and Nashville.

I did call Colt Customer Service one time. The answer I got was, "...could be any city or count police department that begins with a N."

The gun was probably not butt stamped by Colt anyways, and a Colt Factory Letter is way to expensive.

SlamFire1
August 11, 2008, 10:34 AM
I took this 1937 vintage DS out to the range this weekend. The top strap on this revolver is not "scalloped" right above the barrel as are earlier DS's and Police Positives.

I have always suspected that this is a cop gun, judging from the wear on the right and left sides of the butt.

Still shoots straight. Offhand, I consistantly hit my 25 yard 12" gong target, and occasionally hit my 12" gong at 50 yards. It is not easy hitting anything (except the berm) offhand at 50 yards with a snubbie!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/Reduced1937ColtDS454XXXleftsideP809.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/Reduced1937ColtDS454XXXrightsideP80.jpg

IsoMAcK
August 30, 2008, 08:23 PM
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/IsoMAcK/DSC00005.jpg[/IMG]

I like the Tyler T-grips that you have there, SlamFire. I'll bet they improve the handling. My DS has some carry wear from the years, but it locks up tighter than some new Smiths that I own. ;) I have to agree with Bill in NH that the trigger is one of the best. In SA it is as good as my 60's model 27.

-IsoMAcK

megatronrules
August 30, 2008, 08:57 PM
Does this count?,is so heres mine a 1972 cobra
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd177/1911luver/phonememorycard100.jpg

Catbird
August 30, 2008, 09:21 PM
My AGENT and Detective Special -

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Catbird1/DSCN0536.jpg

MJ2008
January 19, 2009, 09:35 AM
I bought a vintage Colt D.S. from a retired Detective last week. I called up Colt and I was told it was from 1964. Its finish shows quite a bit of holster wear but mechanically looks fine. It has the original wood grips with the silver colt emblem on them. Im really looking forward to trying it out the next couple of weeks.

Storm
January 19, 2009, 11:50 AM
To add to my shrouded Detective Special I just picked up this great older DS with grips in pretty good shape. I'm amazed at how the size/weight compares very favorably with my five shot M36.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5092/img5126ln5.jpg

hinton03
January 19, 2009, 12:33 PM
Here's mine. Have been a fan of the S&W snubbie for years but this is my first DS. Unfired as of yet.

How did you get large pics to post; I can only figure out thumbnails?

krs
January 19, 2009, 03:22 PM
1938....http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p263/twagger/guns/coltdetspec-1.jpg

Lovesbeer99
January 19, 2009, 06:44 PM
I picked one up at a gun shop once and loved it. Ever since I've wanted one, but I keep hearing that the parts are no longer made and they are very difficult to service. That's why I'm now looking at the Ruger SP101. Any reason I should reconsider?

Guillermo
January 19, 2009, 10:37 PM
lovesbeer

Ruger makes good weapons but coming from a Colt you might be unhappy with the fit, finish, trigger pull and weight of your new revolver.

MJ2008
March 1, 2009, 09:57 PM
My Colt Detective Special dates to 1964. Purchased it a couples of months back from a retired Detective. The bluing is pretty worn from holster wear and the grips also seem pretty weathered but it seems like the timing is good and the inside of the barrel looks good. I havent fired it yet but Im pretty certain it will shoot fine. Im seriously considering sending it to Colt for a a tuneup and to have it refinished in Colts Royal Blue. I plan on shooting it several times a year and using it as a carry s.d. gun. I have no plans on making it a safe queen or making a fortune selling it to a collector years from now. I just would like to have it looking and functioning like it was when it was new.

SwampWolf
March 2, 2009, 07:31 PM
Bought my 1968 vintage, unfired Cobra with box and papers (including unfilled-out warranty card) for $510.00 last year. I may well have paid too much but I have always wanted an "unshrouded" Detective Special or Cobra so I went for it. I opted for the Cobra strictly because I got it for ccw and the lighter weight for that purpose makes sense to me over the heavier, steel DS.

Because the Cobra was in such nice condition, the folks at the Colt forum implored me to not shoot/carry it; to buy a "shooter" and sell mine to a collector who would better appreciate the condition. I gave the matter a lot of thought (they do have a point) but in the end decided to proceed with my original plans: I shoot it and carry it. It's not a Dragoon and never will be. It was made to use. And so I do.

FLRon
March 2, 2009, 08:15 PM
I'm really enjoying all the pics. Here is my contribution.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/MyColtDS3-1.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/MyDSNickel2-1.jpg

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/MyDSs2.jpg

popeye
March 2, 2009, 10:01 PM
Well I lucked into the nickel Cobra Sunday for pretty cheap. The blue Cobra is .32 NP. I carry a blue .38 spec Cobra all the time.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z49/bignugly77/HPIM0098.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z49/bignugly77/HPIM0102.jpg

MJ2008
March 4, 2009, 01:43 AM
heres my Colt Detective Special

Trapper336
March 21, 2009, 01:27 AM
Here's my application to join.
a Fitz
pic one Colt grips
pic two rubber grips
pic three same gun with my home made birdseyes my fave.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/3371291031_7f02580db0.jpg?v=0http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/3371290783_95b0a96e85.jpg?v=0http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3633/3371291827_17638424b2.jpg?v=0

444marlin
March 21, 2009, 09:45 AM
good for you swampwolf, your gun your decision. the only thing I would have done differently would be to ask the colt forum guys to trade me 2 user DS's or similar for the unfired one.

I will post pics of my agent when I get home from florida it is a beautiful snubby that I have to keep stealing back from my wife.

pbslinger
March 21, 2009, 11:13 AM
I got lucky at the pawn shop one day and found a NIB less common 3" model. I don't get to shoot it.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd204/ledslinger/IMG_0225.jpg

TheVirginian
March 21, 2009, 02:56 PM
I have a Cobra. I don't really notice any difference in any of these 2" guns other than the shroud/no shroud for the cylinder release. I take it that the Cobra has an alloy frame to reduce weight and the Detective does not? What about an Agent, what's its quirk?
-Bill

The Lone Haranguer
March 21, 2009, 03:15 PM
The Cobra and Agent have alloy frames, the DS steel. An Agent is like a Cobra except for shorter grips.

mnw42
March 22, 2009, 03:07 AM
Trapper336, If that is an original Fitz then I bow be fore your shear awesomeness.


Did the checker the top of the hammer?

Trapper336
March 22, 2009, 10:35 AM
mnw42,
No bowing, I got it from a retired Major of the police force in a city close to me here in ND He did not know much about it. Whoever did it did an excellent job. No checkers on the hammer.
I pack it when I go to town, other wise I carry a larger piece.

Ruodo
March 22, 2009, 03:03 PM
I bought my first Colt Detective Special a week or two ago. Its in .38 Colt New Police and has colt plastic grips. Kinda different but I love it.

SharpsDressedMan
March 22, 2009, 04:30 PM
Took me awhile to find the correct grips for the Cobra. Landed the aged ivory for the Detective Special on ebay. I am now a very happy man. The DS is particularly butter smooth on the action, and has a bit of wear, so I plan to carry that one when the mood strikes me. It won't be a safe queen.http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC05237.jpg

Ruodo
March 22, 2009, 07:46 PM
Decided to try to take a couple of pics of mine (still learning how to operate a camera.)

Its a beat up gun, with plastic grips, and its in an annoying to find caliber but I truly love this gun.

m.pieroni
March 23, 2009, 11:42 AM
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa296/mpieroni/Colts.jpg

savit260
May 7, 2009, 10:20 AM
Here's my application, if you'd like to include another Cobra in the club.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/savit260/rnadom%20stuff/zIMG_0609.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c337/savit260/rnadom%20stuff/zIMG_0608.jpg

doc540
May 7, 2009, 12:49 PM
Ohhh, I see what you did there with that Agent.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3858.jpg

My Agent hammer is on the way to a Master Bobber and Checkerer as I type this. And the DS Jim Badger rosewoods just might get swapped.;)

Anonymous Coward
May 7, 2009, 02:27 PM
My Agent hammer is on the way to a Master Bobber and Checkerer as I type this.

Who is this? I need the same thing done.

BTW, how hard would it be to remove (and reinstall) the hammer myself?

doc540
May 7, 2009, 03:20 PM
"BTW, how hard would it be to remove (and reinstall) the hammer myself?"

Not hard at all, getting it all back together and working is the challenge beyond my skill level.:o

One of the members here is doing it for me, but I'm going to defer to him the issue of taking other jobs.

If he hasn't posted in this thread yet, I'm sure he will soon.

Anonymous Coward
May 7, 2009, 03:44 PM
I knew that was going to be the answer :-) The reason I asked is that hammers weigh less than handguns, and you don't have to send them overnight to the gumsmith.

Who is doing the work on your Agent? I want the spur removed for pocket carry (in states that allow it, i.e., not here), but I'd like to have the top of the hammer checkered to allow single-action fire. Just because.

Texas Colt
May 7, 2009, 03:48 PM
I reckon I'll fess up since Doc has outted me. I've been doing some hammer bobbing on my own guns and for a few friends. I can also checker the top of the hammer similar to the way it was done on the original Fitz Special.

Disassembling a Colt revolver is not for everyone. If you're really good with small parts and remembering where everything came from, you can do it. I compare it to rebuilding a carburetor.

Here's a DS that was bobbed and checkered...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DSCheckeredHammer2.jpg

Here's a S&W Model 60 that was bobbed and has a beveled radius at the top...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Other%20Handguns/LarrysSW6.jpg

Anonymous Coward
May 7, 2009, 04:05 PM
Those are very, very nice. Let me know if you need a new "friend" who has a gun that needs work.

Quick question: If you send a revolver to a gunsmith without the cylinder, is it still a "firearm" that needs to be sent overnight, or is it "gun parts" that can be sent through the mail?

I suspect the former.

Texas Colt
May 7, 2009, 04:08 PM
You are correct. According to the ATF, the frame (the part with the serial number on it) is the firearm and must be sent overnight. Any other components are just parts.

Anonymous Coward
May 7, 2009, 04:10 PM
Hammer shrouds!

Who likes them and who doesn't?

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu113/drwitchdoctor/IMG_0517.jpg

Colt Cobra 1971, Eagle Secret Service tulipwood stocks.

SwampWolf
May 7, 2009, 06:34 PM
Hammer shrouds!

Who likes them and who doesn't?

Shrouds and bobbed hammers are nice, I guess, but for those who prefer keeping a single-action shot(s) as an (albeit rare) option in a self-defense scenario, placing the ball of your thumb over the spur of the hammer during a pocket draw will prevent "snags".

doc540
May 7, 2009, 06:40 PM
"...placing the ball of your thumb over the spur of the hammer during a pocket draw will prevent "snags"."

That's correct.

From a SmartCarry holster the thumb-over-spur method is quite a challenge, thus the bobbed hammer on my DS and Agent.

savit260
May 7, 2009, 08:55 PM
Hammer shrouds!

Who likes them and who doesn't?
I've got a Waller Hammer Shroud on the way. I'll report back with pics after I have it installed.

gmh1013
May 7, 2009, 09:29 PM
Oh man, Im drooling more than I did over a nude scene with Selma Hayek

doc540
May 7, 2009, 09:40 PM
"Oh man, Im drooling more than I did over a nude scene with Selma Hayek."

Get professional help about that.:D

jumm
May 7, 2009, 10:04 PM
I just bought this not long ago. About how much would it be worth? THanks, Jumm

444marlin
May 7, 2009, 10:47 PM
where did you find the Waller Hammer Shroud?

Anonymous Coward
May 7, 2009, 10:49 PM
Shrouds and bobbed hammers are nice, I guess, but for those who prefer keeping a single-action shot(s) as an (albeit rare) option in a self-defense scenario, placing the ball of your thumb over the spur of the hammer during a pocket draw will prevent "snags".

I'm using a Mika pocket holster, and there's just not enough room to do that. Plus I'd rather keep my draw as simple as possible, especially under pressure.

I'm 90% towards the hammer bob, but I thought I'd poll some shroud users to make sure I wasn't missing out on anything.

Texas Colt
May 7, 2009, 11:13 PM
I use a Desantis pocket holster sometimes and a bobbed hammer or a shroud is a must in that mode of carry. There's not enough room to get your thumb in there to cover the hammer, especially if you're in a hurry.

The nice thing about checkering the top of a bobbed hammer is that it makes single action cocking easy.

savit260
May 8, 2009, 06:02 PM
444marlin

where did you find the Waller Hammer Shroud?

This gentleman is selling off the remaining stock.

There's an email address to contact him at the bottom of the page.


http://snubtraining.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/hammer-shrouds/

FLRon
May 8, 2009, 06:34 PM
Here is a new SF-VI (Detective Special II) I recently aquired.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/FLRon777/ColtSF-VI2-1.jpg

doc540
May 8, 2009, 06:50 PM
Oh, that looks all modern and ever'thang!

444marlin
May 8, 2009, 10:25 PM
thank you savit260

BullfrogKen
March 7, 2010, 07:24 PM
This thread can't be left to die, so I'll resurrect it.

Here's some of mine.

A 3rd Generation Detective Special, factory hammer shroud, and Barami Hip Grip.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=115316&stc=1&d=1265861588





This next one I'm most proud of. I had it shipped in from Puerto Rico about a month ago. It had some surface rust on it, but shot very little at all. No turn line yet on the cylinder, rifling still very sharp, but the rust brought the value down. It is a "transition" model. It dates from 1969 and has the 2nd generation barrel, trigger and cylinder assembly, but the 3rd generation frame with that era's short, square butt.

I cleaned it up, and put a set of these Eagle grips on it this weekend. I had looked around for probably 5 years for one of these 3" 2nd generation Detective Specials. I saw some selling for $600.00 and up over the years, but let them go. Total cost to me for this one was $265.00 out the door.



http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=117106&stc=1&d=1267904333




It shoots very well. It's my carry gun now.





http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=116179&stc=1&d=1266782739


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=116178&stc=1&d=1266782724

joed
March 7, 2010, 07:41 PM
I have one DS which is fairly new, it is one of my favorite CCW guns. Unlike the S&W it has an extra round and is just a better gun.

Before the DS I had a Cobra from 1954. Nice gun but I rarely shot it because of the alloy frame.

I love the S&W N and K frames but the J frame does nothing for me, and I'm not to fond of the L.

doc540
March 7, 2010, 07:42 PM
ednred's last bob job:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Cobra%202/DSCN0967-1.jpg

mds2004
August 25, 2010, 02:28 PM
Just purchased a early 1960s 2" for $250! Now I have to wait for CA's 10 day wait. It was cheap because of a bad duracoat finish. I plan on having it blued again and cannot wait. It is my first snubnose.

420Stainless
August 25, 2010, 09:13 PM
Mine's a holster worn 1972 I got in a pawn shop a few years ago. Ain't pretty, but sure is a good shooting companion.

Ed from Maine
August 25, 2010, 09:35 PM
I have an interesting Detective Special, First Issue, shipped April 25, 1947 (letter from Colt Historian comes with this), but it has all pre-war features, very unusual. It seems to have been carried a lot, but shot not so much, this piece has real character. I paid Mr. Frank Gaetje $625 shipped, back in April, 2008, I will sell for $550 shipped. Good shooter, tight lockup, good trigger. Comes with Tyler tee as shown.

FourTeeFive
July 21, 2011, 09:51 PM
Hopefully some Colt experts will still be on this thread. What can you tell me about the grips for a 1951 Colt Detective Special?

I've got the "long frame" that is sandwiched by the two thin grip panels. I've been trying to find newer grips for the gun that are still thin, and have bought some that are close but not quite the right size. Were there different sizes made? See a pic of the gun below.

Thank you!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/fourteefive/ColtDS_oldGrip.jpg

popeye
July 21, 2011, 10:16 PM
The stocks on your gun are "Coltwood". (Colt grips are refered to as stocks) They are not wood, but plastic. Coltwood was a name Colt decided upon for the stocks which were supplied on a couple of models. They tend to shrink over time and noticeable gap appears at the top where the stock meets the frame. I've got a '60 DS in much rougher shape cosmetically than yours. I found some Agent smooth stocks I modified to fit and use a Tyler T since I carry that gun. E BAY occasionally has what you want. All the long frame round butt stocks should interchange. Some fitting as always may be required.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z49/bignugly77/ds4.jpg

FourTeeFive
July 21, 2011, 10:49 PM
Thanks for the info. I have a pair of Ajax grips that I think I can modify for the gun, and also some wood ones that are close but not quite.

Are the T-grips still available?

FourTeeFive
July 21, 2011, 10:51 PM
By the way, mine was REALLY rough cosmetically when I got it. Rust pitting, etc. My local gunsmith did a nice job cleaning it up, buffing it out and doing a cheap refinish. Not a beauty but it is a great working piece and is beautifully built.

popeye
July 21, 2011, 11:12 PM
Tyler is out of business. Under no circumstances send any money to them. They have been ordered to refund monies sent and orders not filled. Tyler grips can be found also on E BAY and gun web sites for sale sections. There's a guy on the S&W site thats made molds and is reproducing the Tyler design in epoxy. The black ones look really good.

GCBurner
July 22, 2011, 12:41 AM
From anyone who's had experience with doing it, what is Colt charging nowadays for a tuneup and refinish on one of these older Detective Specials, I think 1960s vintage?

ColtPythonElite
July 22, 2011, 01:17 AM
You can find refinish prices on Colt's Custom Shop page.

FourTeeFive
July 22, 2011, 01:49 AM
The T Grip prices on eBay are insane! On the other hand there are a number of grips that might work. Thanks!

ColtPythonElite
July 22, 2011, 01:53 AM
I might have a nice pair of NOS laminate grips that will fit it. I don't know the brand. I'll have to see if they will fit your gun.

gvf
July 22, 2011, 05:01 AM
Here's mine, early 60s

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz290/gvff/Nature%20and%20City%20and%20The%20Unusual/det.jpg


I also have the Detective's alloy twin, Colt Cobra 38 (no pix) which Jack Ruby used to shoot on occasion just around the time my Cobra was made:

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz290/gvff/Nature%20and%20City%20and%20The%20Unusual/alg_jack_ruby_oswald_shooting.jpg

(Notice Ruby's hand: shooting with the 2nd finger. Myth built up about this, that Jack was using a literal "point shooting" technique -( there is one like that). Alas, Jack had had an accident before this and had the first section of his forefinger amputated. Hence, his shooting "technique". Very effective though.......)

22-rimfire
July 22, 2011, 07:01 AM
Always had a soft spot for the Detective Special. I never owned one until recently as I viewed it as a carry gun and I didn't carry. That has changed. The 4" Diamondback is my favorite Colt D-frame.

bikemutt
July 22, 2011, 09:40 AM
Sign me up for the DS club. I traded a Smith Airweight for my first one. It's in near flawless condition, 3rd issue, deep blue. My wife shot it at the range and knew right away she'd found her purse gun, so she took it. Well, I found another one for myself which I purchased on gunbroker, it's been shipped to my FFL, will have it next week.

We are both amazed at how well the DS fits and shoots considering it's size, weight and short barrel. It's the only small-frame gun I've found that is not fatiguing to pump a few rounds through at the range, so I can actually practice with the thing.

doc540
July 22, 2011, 10:59 AM
D Frames Rule

my first DS that directed me down the road to all things Colt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Detective%20Special/ds5-3.jpg

I think I'm on my 12th Colt by now.:o

GCBurner
July 22, 2011, 11:08 AM
You can find refinish prices on Colt's Custom Shop page.
They actually don't have the prices on the page, but I checked, and a complete Colt Royal Blue refinishing is $275. Plus, of course, FedEx overnight, insured shipping each way. I suspect when it's inspected, it may need the hand replaced and the timing adjusted, probably another $150. This stuff gets expensive fast, doesn't it?

ColtPythonElite
July 22, 2011, 11:55 AM
There is a PDF file with the prices on it. Use a search engine to search for "2011 Colt Custom shop prices".

496 polara
July 24, 2011, 05:52 PM
My little pawn shop find.

armsmaster270
July 24, 2011, 06:14 PM
My dad's DS he carried off duty & then gave it to me

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff207/armsmaster270/Guns/PICT0101-1-1.jpg

Victor69
August 20, 2011, 01:19 AM
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz95/VictorCastle/b8928c01.jpg

230RN
August 20, 2011, 03:13 AM
Mine is just like Victor 69's top one in the pic above.

My photo-fu is fubar.

Count me in.

Terry, 230RN

sm
August 20, 2011, 08:56 PM
No pics.

awgrizzly
August 20, 2011, 09:43 PM
I have a couple.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/ColtDetectiveSpecial2.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/Grizzlyguy/ColtDetectiveSpecial2-1.jpg

The one on the top is three years newer than the one on the bottom (no mistake). It's an unfired .32 cal., so I bought the .38 on the bottom to shoot. The top gun was made in 1975 and the bottom was made in 1972. Any of you seen a second series made after 1972? I'd like to know the effect on value.

FourTeeFive
August 21, 2011, 01:27 PM
The one on the top is three years newer than the one on the bottom (no mistake). It's an unfired .32 cal., so I bought the .38 on the bottom to shoot. The top gun was made in 1975 and the bottom was made in 1972. Any of you seen a second series made after 1972? I'd like to know the effect on value.

When did they stop making the "long butt" D-frames? Maybe they had some leftover frames from eariler production and made that .32. Pretty strange to see a 1975 gun without a barrel lug.

Thanks for sharing!

awgrizzly
August 21, 2011, 01:59 PM
When did they stop making the "long butt" D-frames? Maybe they had some leftover frames from eariler production and made that .32. Pretty strange to see a 1975 gun without a barrel lug.

Thanks for sharing!
I believe they shortened the butt frame in 1966 and went to the wrap around wood grips. The frame wasn't changed in 1972 with the 3rd issue.

451 Detonics
August 21, 2011, 05:21 PM
I prefer mine shrouded...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/handguns/coltcase2.jpg

awgrizzly
August 21, 2011, 05:27 PM
Nice knife :what:

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