SKS or AK SAR-2


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Black92LX
August 27, 2003, 11:18 PM
was browsing the aimsurplus website and saw what look to be some good deals.

which would you choose?

Yugo SKS (http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Yugoslavian_M59_66_7_62x39_SKS_Rifle.html#a131)

AK SR2 (http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_AK_SAR_2_5_54x39_Rifle.html)

both are not too expensive to shoot and they seem like good deals.

SKS 149.99
SAR2 269.99

does anyone know if i can pick things up from aimsurplus?? i don't live far from there and the gas would be far cheaper than the $30 FFL fee

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SodaPop
August 28, 2003, 02:46 AM
I would go with the SKS or SAR I before getting an SAR II.

I personally think the SAR II is a better weapon, but magazines and ammo are just not as common. Where do you get parts for an SAR II if something breaks?

MAKOwner
August 28, 2003, 03:06 AM
Where do you get parts for an SAR II if something breaks? From the glut of AK74 parts and parts sets floating around lately. But then there is still ammo, can't buy it at Walmart. Of course most all of the online suppliers carry it for only a little more than 7.62x39...

Too bad they're out of SAR1s, try one of their WASR10 hicaps if they still have those in stock. I like my SAR2 better than my SAR1 or the other 7.62x39 AKs I've had, but a 7.62 one would be a better first AK I suppose...

I would get an AK over a SKS myself, just more fun. Not that there is anything wrong with the SKS though, but if what you really want is a "evil assault weapon" the SKS is a poor substitute...

And as I understand it, yes you can get guns directly from Aim if you pick them up. Not sure if you have to be a resident of the same state, or if neighboring state residents can buy straight from them too...

Jack19
August 28, 2003, 07:23 AM
I'd go with the SAR-1 over the 2.

762x39 is everywhere and cheap enough to be stockpiled in case its import is ever banned. Mags are, generally anyway, cheaper for 7.62 as well.

Black92LX
August 28, 2003, 09:22 AM
what are the differences between the SAR 1 and 2? where might i be able to find an SAR 1?

i appreciate the input

Silent Bob
August 28, 2003, 09:43 AM
I handled a WASR-10 yesterday that had been (crudely) modified to accept double-stack magazines, and it was difficult and irritating to insert and remove the magazines. And then when it was in, the magazine wobbled noticeably from side to side. Ugh. I would take an SKS over a modified WASR-10 any day of the week.

DMK
August 28, 2003, 12:40 PM
I've got a SAR1 AK and a Yugo SKS (both from AIM actually). Due to the stamped steel parts on the SAR it feels like a cheaply made, crude weapon. It has a short little stock and rough, sharp edges. It has a Liberator pistol quality to it.

The Yugo is made MUCH better and feels more solid. The wood is nice, the ergonomics and controls are better. It's easier to shoot and it's more accurate.

IMO, the only thing the SAR AK has going for it is weight, length and cheap hi-cap mags.

NOTE: To be fair to AK lovers, this is a comparison of one of the generally better made variations of the SKS to one of the generally poorer quality AK variations.

Joe Demko
August 28, 2003, 12:49 PM
I'll take an SKS over a semi-auto AK every time. The only exception might be for something like a Valmet.

SodaPop
August 28, 2003, 01:01 PM
what are the differences between the SAR 1 and 2? where might i be able to find an SAR 1?

You do know its a totally different caliber, don't you?

ReadyontheRight
August 28, 2003, 01:08 PM
AIM has the SAR1 with laminated stock for $309 right now.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Laminated_Stock_Romanian_SAR_1_7_62x39_Rifle.html

Looks nice! The previous SAR1s had some ug-lee stocks -- prompting a run on black bedliner spray. The laminated stock in 7.62x39 seems like the way to go to me.

Yugo SKS is nice and a good price, but kind of "clunky" with the bayo and grenade launcher.

Black92LX
August 28, 2003, 04:09 PM
looking at my budgets the SAR's are out of the price range. unless i feel like spending everything i have which which wouldn't be wise. because that would equal no food for 3 weeks.

so is the 149 a good deal for the SKS?

LIKE NEW GRADE: Looks like it could be New. Expect minor if any storage wear. $149.95ea

i live near aimsurplus so i can pick it up and don't have to pay a FFL fee.

what distance can i shoot too acuratly with the SKS?

i want a rifle just for fun right now till i am in the situation to buy a better gun.

mattd
August 28, 2003, 06:48 PM
Crap, I hit the wrong button and erased my whole message. Any ways, 100 is good but 150 is the most I'd pay for a sks. The sar-2 mags are very common and cheap. But I think we only have soft ammo here because of the ammo restrictions. But then again I think the 5.45 round is small enough to evade the restrictions. I'd say the sar-2 is a project gun, rather then something to blow holes in stuff you no longer have use for ie. apple computer, thats what the ak-47 is for. And check local gun shops for the sks. I'm guessing 3 inch at 100 yards is the worst you will get.

DMK
August 28, 2003, 07:43 PM
i want a rifle just for fun right now till i am in the situation to buy a better gun. Buy the SKS. It will do just fine for what you want and if you keep it stock and don't try to turn it into something it's not, you will likely decide to keep it and shoot it for a long while.

$150 is a good price. AIM's Yugos are like brand new. Be aware though, that they are covered in goopy cosmoline. You will have to expend a good amount of elbow grease cleaning that off.


I've never shot mine past 100 yards because that's all my range goes to. It's a combat accurate rifle (ie. 2" to 4" groups, luck of the draw). All of my Yugo 59/66s will out shoot my SAR1. I have a Romanian and a Norinco SKS that are more accurate, but I just got lucky with those. Effective combat range is 300 yards I believe.

For more info, peruse these websites:

http://www.carbinesforcollectors.com/sks.htm

http://www.surplusrifle.com

http://www.simonov.net/main.htm

http://home.cdsnet.net/~lannyaf/manual.htm

Nightcrawler
August 28, 2003, 08:03 PM
The only parts of the SAR-2 that aren't interchangable with every other AK, I believe, are the magazine, barrel, bolt, and bolt carrier. A stripped AK receiver can be made into either chambering, IIRC.

The 5.45mm mags are available from any of the places that sell magazines, just about, and because of lower demand often cost less than the 7.62x39 magazines. Being made of Bakelite, they're lighter as well.

The ammo...the only sources of ammo are Wolf, Silver Bear, and Barnaul, I believe. It's cheap, though, about a hundred bucks per thousand rounds (and really, who buys anything but this stuff for their AKs?) FMJ and JHP are both available, and Ammo Man (http://www.ammoman.com) will give you free shipping.

The 5.45 AKs are generally considered to be noiticably more accurate, and have practically negligible recoil. If I were in the market for one, I'd probably get the SAR-2 and get one of those cleanup jobs like what Azex Arms does.

iamkris
August 28, 2003, 08:11 PM
I'm biased because I've never really like the looks of the AK. Just too dang terrorist-commie-looking to me. YMMV.

I just picked up a like new Yugo SKS from AIM. Took 3 hours of cleaning cosmo but now she's a peach. Soft recoiling, flawless operation (after only 200 rounds), and relatively accurate (3" 10-shot groups at 50 yards so far). A lot of fun and historical as well. That is a lot of rifle for $150. Buy it.

mattd
August 28, 2003, 08:20 PM
iamkris

This is what I'm talking about when I say project gun. I think a terrorist weapon has wood grips and a folding stock that has never been opened.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37689

Black92LX
August 28, 2003, 10:07 PM
Well i have located a norinco SKS at a shop around here for 175 out the door tax included everything. so i am going to check it out saturday.

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