Kicking around trading the P229 for a 1911.


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Floppy_D
July 15, 2008, 12:24 PM
I have a Sig P229 in 40sw. I'm considering trading it for a 1911 of some sort. So, for you 1911 guys, what would be a good trade? What would be one to avoid?

I like 1911s but know very little about them, so my goal here is to figure out what a fair expectation would be.

Thanks!

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Darkker
July 15, 2008, 12:34 PM
Rock Island Armory/Armscor makes excellent 1911's.
I'm not a fan of Springfields, I've had a good one and alot of bad ones.
Para's aren't a true 1911, trigger wise, can't just drop in parts.
The Rocks go for 300-ish. I don't know what your gun is worth.

I can tell you that Kimber makes good quality, but are a little "tight" in my experience, and take quite a few rounds to break it in enough to feed reliably.

NGIB
July 15, 2008, 12:52 PM
Assign a value to your Sig and then go "shopping" in that price range. I trade guns a lot and you can certainly end up with value. I have 2 Rock Islands, a Springer, and 2 Para Ord's and all are fine guns - just depends what you're looking for...

Ske1etor
July 15, 2008, 12:54 PM
Darkker, He is suggesting trading a P229 for a 1911. No disrespect, but look into things before you suggest them. The Sig 229's run in the thousand dollar range.

Floppy, Look into the Springfield Loaded model. They run around the $800 ballpark. Also on this level is the Kimber Custom II. Look into Dan Wesson, and possibly even SIG. You should also check out the Colt line. They still make nice firearms these days even though their production isn't anywhere near the level of quality it was 20 years ago.

If looking at the DW and SIG, you may have to fork up a bit of cash unless you are trading one of the higher grade 229's.

NGIB
July 15, 2008, 01:19 PM
The Sig 229's run in the thousand dollar range.

Maybe in your neck of the woods they do but not mine. A quick check on Gunbroker and I didn't even see one priced at near a grand. An example:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=104831360

Ske1etor
July 15, 2008, 01:33 PM
Maybe in your neck of the woods they do but not mine.

My neck of the woods is Sig Sauer's website. I was quoting MSRP... I apologize for being at work and not having access to gunbroker.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=8&productid=63

crebralfix
July 15, 2008, 01:37 PM
Don't be silly.

You'll need to debug the 1911, test it, and so forth. The P229 is a solid weapon...today's 1911's are finicky.

Just buy the 1911, work on it at your leisure, and defend yourself with the SIG.

CWL
July 15, 2008, 01:41 PM
A used SiG P229 will be worth from $500-650 depending on where you live and the condition of it.

If you trade your P229 for a RIA, everyone including myself will laugh at you.

You should look more for Colts, Kimbers, SA Loadeds as even trades. Perhaps a Dan Wesson M1911, but I doubt you'll find many around.

1KPerDay
July 15, 2008, 04:54 PM
Save your lunch money for a couple months and buy a 1911. Keep the Sig. You'll regret getting rid of it. ;)

5Wire
July 15, 2008, 05:52 PM
Save your lunch money for a couple months and buy a 1911. Keep the Sig. You'll regret getting rid of it.

Plus one here.

Muddflap
July 15, 2008, 07:35 PM
Save your lunch money for a couple months and buy a 1911. Keep the Sig. You'll regret getting rid of it.

That's good advice.

Snowdog
July 15, 2008, 08:00 PM
Interesting... I've never had to debug a 1911, ever. Every 1911 I've ever owned fed, fired and ejected FMJ and JHP without issue.
Maybe I'm just incredibly lucky or something.

FXWG
July 15, 2008, 08:10 PM
I agree with the save your dough and keep the Sig.
I had a Sig 229 also in .40 SW.
Traded it for something else.
Wish I still had it.:(
But I do have three different 1911's though.;)

Floppy_D
July 15, 2008, 10:24 PM
Cool, this is why I like you guys. Thinktanking is handy. In regards to "would I regret the trade," is "why I would regret the trade." Part time carry weapon for part time carry weapon, less primer feed tube changeouts when reloading (now I can make 45acp and 44mag/spl progressively without changing anything).

I won't let impatience win; if someone can tell me they have an SA loaded or a Kimber or the like that is worth the swap, I'll take it. I'm not out to offload the Sig by this weekend... I'm just looking at my options, because my interest in semi-autos is evolving, and I like what the 1911 has to offer.

FM12
July 16, 2008, 01:40 AM
My groups at 25 yards were cut in half when I changed from a Sig 226/40S&W to a S&W 1911/45ACP. Sigs are great, well made, accurate and reliable. I and a lot of other shooters just dont shoot them well. Our local sherrif's office changed from Glock/40S&W to Sig 220/45ACP. Their qualification scores have dropped. You pay your money and you take your choice. My money is on any good 1911.

Floppy_D
July 16, 2008, 09:45 AM
Cool. I've shot my buddy's Sig 1911 (GSR, I think?) and I really liked it. Just thought I'd ask around and see what to expect in a trade.

Frizzman
July 16, 2008, 11:55 PM
If you traded with any dealer around here, you would get hosed. I don't know how it is in other areas of the country but the standard around here is for a dealer to look at the "Blue Book" and find some price and offer 50-60% of some used value. Unless you just have to trade and don't mind giving it away, keep the Sig. Its a nice gun and expensive to replace if you want another. I have been down that road numerous times and regret many of the trades I have made...Keep it and save for the 1911. You can get the best deal if you have the $$$. Cash talks!

Autolycus
July 17, 2008, 12:49 AM
I would keep the Sig and save for the 1911, as others have stated.

The Tourist
July 17, 2008, 12:56 AM
We should also mention that these average prices are for pistols in their stock condition.

My P-229 in SW .40 is one of the two tone models, and I could see where it would bring 1,000 dollars.

But 1911s, yikes, the sky is the limit.

I have an early Colt Enhanced, pretty stock. Around here 1,000 bucks easy.

Now customs--that's another matter.

I have a Tussey Custom that is probably the first one he ever did in stainless from around 1985 or so. Figure 2,500 to 3000 dollars.

If you want a severe pain in your wallet, ask him for his current price on a full custom Colt .380 Government. He charged me 2,200--ten years ago.

He hated working on it so bad he vowed never to make another.

Dobe
July 17, 2008, 06:59 AM
:cool:Get the 1911. If it were not what you really wanted, you would not have even posted this.

Follow the light. It's much better on this side.:D

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