What's So Great About The M&P in Massachusetts


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sigbear
July 16, 2008, 06:54 AM
My local gun store said he has sold more M&P's from his store than any other handgun in his 20 years in business.

I had a chance to shoot one the other day, here in Massachusetts S&W has to supply new M&P's with a 10 lb. trigger.

IMO a 10 lb trigger ruins the gun, very uncomfortable to shoot for extended periods, and the 10 lb. trigger has a negative affect on accuracy.

I know you can buy the M&P and have a trigger job done, but why go through the trouble and expense when you can buy something else with a better trigger and enjoy it right out of the box?

I did like everything else about the gun except for the trigger.

Are you Mass. guy's happy with the 10 lb. trigger?

Sigbear

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MissouriCrowinMass
July 16, 2008, 07:04 AM
Sig,

If you google "M&P and trigger", you get a great Site with photographic directions on how to do a trigger job on the S&W. I wasn't overly aggressive on the filing and stoning.........and it took the sin out of the DA trigger pull. The pistol was easy to disasseble & reassemble. A few pins to tap out. The whole operation just took an hour.

I find the Mass M&P's OK after the trigger job. The pistol isn't as much fun or as accurate as my Sig 220 in .45ACP. For target shooting, I like the Beretta 96 just as well. I get some trigger bite with the M&P.

The Gunshop I go to staff's was just talking about how many they sold in Mass, yesterday! Very popular.....maybe due to reasonable cost & reasonable performance.

Spartacus451
July 16, 2008, 08:29 AM
The 10 pound trigger is a show stopper for most shooters. It's actually quite good other then the weight. I have a set of conversion parts to make the 10 pound trigger into the regular five pound trigger. They cost about $50 and are drop in. The instructions for the trigger job will show you how to detail strip the gun.

Disaster
July 16, 2008, 08:36 AM
As was mentioned, the trigger effort can be lowered. I think it is a requirement in Mass. for all DA guns sold new to have that heavy trigger. This would effect any such type gun...like a Glock, M&P or Steyr.

BobHAJ
July 16, 2008, 08:41 AM
If you alter a lawyer 10# trigger in Mass. are you willing to defend your actions in a court of law should you use the gun for self defense?

Beagle-zebub
July 16, 2008, 09:13 AM
If you alter a lawyer 10# trigger in Mass. are you willing to defend your actions in a court of law should you use the gun for self defense?

Silly rabbit, self-defense is illegal in Massachusetts! :p

basicblur
July 16, 2008, 05:18 PM
IMO a 10 lb trigger ruins the gun, very uncomfortable to shoot for extended periods, and the 10 lb. trigger has a negative affect on accuracy.

Ah yes…the “obligatory” trigger job!

As others have no doubt already asked, what is your intended role for the gun?
If it’s self-defense, do you really want to be messing with the trigger?
If it’s self-defense, are you going to be shooting it for extended periods of time in its intended role?
If it’s going to be a range queen, do you really want an M&P?
Have you shot it enough to get used to that 10-lb trigger or at least “give it a chance”? (10-lb wouldn’t bother me as long as it’s smooth)

Now that you’ve answered all those questions (truthfully), by all means…
GET THEE THY TRIGGER JOB!
(And call us back after you shoot your cat) :D

‘Course, you do realize I never professed to be young enough to know it all? :evil:

MythBuster
July 16, 2008, 06:05 PM
" I think it is a requirement in Mass. for all DA guns sold new to have that heavy trigger. This would effect any such type gun...like a Glock, M&P or Steyr."

The M&P and Steyr are NOT DA guns.

Disaster
July 16, 2008, 06:29 PM
" I think it is a requirement in Mass. for all DA guns sold new to have that heavy trigger. This would effect any such type gun...like a Glock, M&P or Steyr."

The M&P and Steyr are NOT DA guns.

Correct, they are closer to SA guns, but they are sold as such. Bottom line is any gun that you can just pull the trigger on, without a safety, will require a 10lb effort by Mass. law.

MythBuster
July 16, 2008, 06:40 PM
Why are they sold as such? Who decides they are DAO?

How do they get DAO out of a pistol with at least a 98% cocked striker?

stinx
July 16, 2008, 08:50 PM
If you alter a lawyer 10# trigger in Mass. are you willing to defend your actions in a court of law should you use the gun for self defense?

As long as what you did for modifications are not crazy it will be a non issue. Most Police Departments in Ma that have M&P' specifically order them with the 5lb trigger. THe same is true of the majorty of Glock in Service with L/E dept here as well. THe Glocks carried by the FBI have the standrad 5.5lb trigger in them The State Police just transition to Sigs with The 6.5lb Dak trigger. MY argument would be that if these trigger weights are good enough for the Police then there good enough for me. As far as I am concerned the 5lb trigger makes the gun more accurate to shot which in turn makes it less likley that an innocent Person gets shot. The 10lb trigger on that gun as it comes from the factory is awful.

phantomak47
July 16, 2008, 09:28 PM
The reason why they sell a lot of them is that is there are very few new pistols being sold in MASS. Glocks, Xds, HKS, most 1911s, Colts etc are not able for purchase in Mass.


Here are guns you cant buy in Mass.P


http://www.fsguns.com/fsg_information.html

scurtis_34471
July 17, 2008, 12:20 AM
I had Bowie Tactical Concepts do a trigger job on my wife's M&P 9C. It was 100% worth the money and the gun now has a very nice 4.5 pound trigger with a short reset and no over-travel.

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