Buying a new pistol!


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SN13
July 16, 2008, 11:25 PM
(Saiga-12 dot com guys, I crossposted there so If this looks familiar, it is ;))

Sooo I NEED a new gun... it's been like 4 months since I bought my .308 saiga and I need a new something.

I'm looking for a 9mm. Here is my criteria- RELIABLE & ACCURATE .... AND

The gun must meet ALMOST all of the following:

9mm
double-stack
10rds+
compact/subcomp
DA/SA or DAo
Thumb safety
De-cocker

Oh and under $700 please.


My choices are:
CZ P01 (http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/product_detail.php?id=28)

CZ 2075 RAMI (http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/product_detail.php?id=48)

Jericho/Baby Eagle (http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=MR9912BL)


If anyone has any other suggestions, I'm open for them. Thanks!

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Sylvan-Forge
July 17, 2008, 08:05 AM
HK USP compact?

SN13
July 17, 2008, 08:40 AM
HK is a nice gun but It's just a little pricey. Once I get it home it'll cost $800.

GZOh
July 17, 2008, 08:53 AM
Don't know if you've had a chance to hold/shoot any of the guns you've suggested... but I would highly recommend doing so, especially with the CZ P-01...
I have several CZs and this gun is one of the most accurate, sweetest shoots I own. The hand 'fit/feel' is great, quality is superb, and it's a flawless shoot.

Highly recommend owning a P-01!!

SN13
July 17, 2008, 09:23 AM
Can the Kadet 22LR conversion fit the P-01?

Can the P-01 accept larger capacity mags?

How hard is it to change the sights if needed?

SN13
July 17, 2008, 09:55 AM
Sh..err CRAP!

Now the plot thickens.... Rami BD with the decocker... hrm

ARGH!

BlindJustice
July 17, 2008, 10:15 AM
On CZ 75 variants the decocker replaces the thumb safety.

Have you considered the CZ 75 PCR/D it has the newer style
slide serrations, newer sights, as well as crisper lettering on the slide
in comparison to the PO1, seems one is built to a mil-spec and the
other is updated for civilian sales.

I believe the Kadet works best on the standard CZ 75B but has some
'issues with some variants, check out the CZ forum.

P01 and PCR are both the same size, 3.9" Bbl. and
14 rd mags. how many yah need in a ccw? carry a spare
mag in an IWB belt holder.

Randall

SN13
July 17, 2008, 11:23 AM
Anyone have a RAMI and can comment on the inherent accuracy of the gun?

KingAirDriver
July 17, 2008, 12:09 PM
I think a Beretta/Stoeger Cougar fits the bill, too. The compact models have shorter grips, but are definitely a little bulky elsewhere. The CZ line was the first to come to my mind, too, although I've never owned one.

I have owned a Baby Eagle, but I owned the full-size steel 9mm. It was a sweet gun, flawless performance, and VERY accurate. It was darn heavy and pretty big. I don't know what the smaller compact, polymer model is like though, but I imagine it's just as good.

nelson133
July 17, 2008, 03:33 PM
If you would consider a striker fired pistol, the XDs and the M&Ps and now available with thumb safeties and the compact version of either is worth consideration.
If used is acceptable. a Sig 229 would fit your requirements and the Sigs are truly fine guns.
The Taurus Millennium Pro in 9mm holds 12 and has a thumb safety also.

NG VI
July 17, 2008, 03:44 PM
The kadet kit worked perfectly on my PCR yesterday afternoon. the slide failed to lock back about half the time, but no big deal. It ate Remington subsonic, Remington Thunderbolt, Remington Yellowjacket, CCI Stinger, Aguila Supermax, and Aguila Sniper SubSonic all without a single failure to feed. Very accurate feeling (I was assassinating bottles, not sure about groups) and it was lots of fun. Ate everything equally well.

Then I got home and launched the guide rod into oblivion!

The P01 will work with the Kadet Kit, but you need a PCR slide stop or else it won't work.

Spyvie
July 17, 2008, 04:17 PM
Don't overlook the FNP-9.

American made DA/SA with a decocker.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/spyvie/Pistols044.jpg

burningsquirrels
July 17, 2008, 04:25 PM
anything CZ. :)

KingAirDriver
July 17, 2008, 05:57 PM
That FNP-9 is on my list. Such a nice looking gun.

bestseller92
July 17, 2008, 07:29 PM
Glock 17, 19 or Ruger P95.

skers69
July 17, 2008, 07:52 PM
I have a PCR and can tell you that they are well made, reliable, accurate, and best of all you can get a cadet kit. That is two guns...which are better than one anyday. Rent one if you can.

SN13
July 17, 2008, 10:26 PM
I got the P-01

It was smaller than my XD45 (Which I already carry). But was nice to shoot.

The place I went had a RAMI and P-01 for rent. They let me rent em for free but i had to buy some over-price ammo.... Fiocchi. It sucks.

Even though these were uncleaned rental beaters, they both shot well with no FTF/FTE. The P-01 just out-shot the RAMI by about half the group size.

countryrebel
July 18, 2008, 05:15 PM
p01 is a good choice.

mattk
July 18, 2008, 05:23 PM
Very few guns are DA/SA and have a thumb safety.
All I can think of are Rugers and Berettas and HK.

The CZ's have either a safety or a decocker but not both.

For your price range I would say CZ or a used Beretta 92.

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