OMG Hell's frozen over in Knoxville!


Felonious Monk
July 20, 2008, 04:01 AM
Hello all! Been a while.

My dad the Anti has just called, and wanted to know where he could get a good price on a 38spl for home defense! :what:

I maintained my composure, asked if anything had happened, and he said "No, I've just been reading all that $#!t you've been mailing me, and I figure it can't hurt to have it, just in case. :uhoh:
(Anti's 0, RKBA +1)

Er, okay dad, sure! I'd be GLAD to help. :D

(the weird part)...Dad was a career FBI agent and carried a gun EVERY DAY, until one day about 7 years before he retired. Some agent he knew got careless, left his guns unlocked, and they guy's kid offed himself with his dad's gun. Dad became an anti then and there (about 20 years ago), and has argued against ANYONE but cops having guns...until now. Go figure.
(I recognize the lack of logic here, so please, let's skip it. It was an emotional reaction on his part. Hit too close to home for him.) :banghead:

SO...if you're still with me...anybody know if there's still any PD or Sheriff's Dept. police turn-ins out there? I'm thinking SP101 in .357 and he and mom (both 78 now) can load it with .38s for control. Coal Creek Armory probably his best bet? PM me if you have any leads on a nice one.

Thanks and nice to be back!

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July 20, 2008, 04:09 AM
Why don't you find out what type of .38spl he carried on duty and buy that type? He might appreciate the gesture and would already be familiar with the pistol.

Felonious Monk
July 20, 2008, 04:23 AM
Thanks for the suggestion! Wish I could just buy it for him.

He carried a sweet Colt for duty that he sold and doesn't want to spend that much at this point. 3-350's about his limit, I believe. Would sure be nice, though!

July 20, 2008, 04:38 AM
No reason you can't find a nice Colt in that price range with a little bit of searching, IMHO. There are plenty of Troopers, Trooper MK IIIs, Official Police, and Detective Specials (just to name a few), but you have to be on top of things to locate em at the right price. However, you are much more likely to locate a J- or K- frame Smith & Wesson in that price range.

As far as police trade-ins, both CDNN and had/have S&W Model 65 police trade-ins. These are stainless .357s. Some of the folks on this board have purchased them and have mixed reports - they are marked excellent, but may have some mechanical issues. They will run you somewhere in the low $300s.

Of course, you can always shop locally - you can probably come up with a good Model 10 or 15 for well under $300. Then, there are the Rugers - a little shopping should yield a Speed/Security/Service Six for mid-$200s. These are all excellent choices that will provide lots of control.

July 20, 2008, 04:49 AM
I am a Ruger guy. I'd say get him a used Smith 65. Plenty out there in great shape. 4" for the home.

Felonious Monk
July 20, 2008, 03:17 PM
Thanks fellas!

I'm definitely not so much the wheelgun guy, so your recommendations are VERY appreciated!


July 20, 2008, 03:29 PM
try a model 10 or an armscor

July 20, 2008, 06:10 PM
You can also get Model 15's for that price.

July 20, 2008, 06:31 PM
F. Monk, you might have your dad check the following in the Knoxville area in addition to Coal Creek Armory:
1) W D Sporting Goods --Nice gun shop, usually have a selection of new & used S&W & Ruger revolvers --- located at 2911 Alcoa Hwy.
2) Randy's Guns & Knives --- another place with new & used S&W, Ruger etc.. revolvers ---located at 5703 N. Broadway.
3)Frontier Firearms ---- large selection of new S&W's, Rugers etc... ---located west of Knoxville on I-40 at exit 356.

Hope this helps.


July 20, 2008, 06:33 PM
A shop local to me (Vance's Shooters Supply) is always selling Model 10 LEO-trade-ins for under 300. All have a little wear, as expected, but some are fairly nice.

You can't go wrong with one of those.

Ala Dan
July 20, 2008, 07:10 PM
Greeting's Again My Friend-

The recommendation of a rock solid, used but not abused S&W model
10 with a 4" barrel is a good start~! I recently picked up one of these
in pristine condition (N.R.A. 98%+) for only $200. It has a beautiful
factory nickel finish, pinned barrel, and is of the square butt style
which is something that S&W no longer catalogs. My S/N (C737xxx)
dates this firearm way back to between 1963-1965; with its birth
year most likely being in 1964~! Lock-up is very tight, grips are
nearly in excellent condition for a gun of this age; and it joins my
S&W 4" factory nickel model 19-3 as a "SAFE QUEEN"~! :scrutiny: ;)

July 20, 2008, 07:43 PM
He's your dad.

Go buy him a nice new Smith and Wesson .357 and several boxes of ammo.
Even if you have to go in debt to do it.

After all he probably has done for you... its your turn to do the right thing.

Felonious Monk
July 20, 2008, 08:35 PM
Ala Dan,

Good to see ya buddy!
PM me if you have any leads on another one like that for 2 bills or so!!! :D

W.E.G. You're right! If I can find a way to swing it, it'll definitely be "my turn"! ;) He's been against any talk of guns for so long, I had all but given up. More than once he's told the story of his fellow agent's loss (due at least in part to the man's own negligence at having NOT locked up his guns). :( I never would argue with him, because you could tell that the love of dad's own children was what drove his irrational fear of guns at that point.

Once in a blue moon, I'd leave a copy of "In The Gravest Extreme", or similar on his coffee table on the way home from a visit. :cool: It's taken nearly a decade since I started my campaign, but I think the absence of minor children and the understanding that he can control the access to the guns in the house with a simple locked box has turned him around. He's not campaigning for RKBA just yet, but I'll give him some time with his new tool, and then bring up the idea of a little range time with his "boy"... :rolleyes:

July 20, 2008, 08:45 PM
I'd go with a good .357. That way, even if he doesn't want to shoot Magnums, he still has that option with it. Plus, they're no heavier nor more expensive.

Ruger GP100 or Smith 19/66.

July 20, 2008, 08:48 PM
Southern Ohio Gun, a wholesale outfit, had standard barrel Model 10's for $180 and Heavy Barrel ones for $190, LEO trade in, shipping and transfer would add another $40 or so, most FFL's get SOG's monthly brochure and could order one for you.

Found the brochure/mailer - 1-800-944-4867

July 21, 2008, 12:06 AM
A good K-frame Smith would be a perfect HD gun. They can be found for 300 to 350 range.

July 21, 2008, 12:18 AM
At 78 there is a trade-off between weight, trigger pull and recoil. My mom decided in her early 70's that the .38 police special might be too much for her to handle and opted for a 410 ("if nothing else, I can use it for a walking stick.") The model 10/65's in .38 special sound good because they could fire it in SA.

Felonious Monk
July 21, 2008, 12:37 AM
Yeah, we've had the caliber conversation; he's still pretty confident about the .38, (works out 4x/wk at CourtSouth) but gets real concerned if I even mention a 9 or a .45 (go figure) :uhoh:
He never liked the snap of a .357, so that's out, ammo-wise. I'm figuring a good .38 loading of something from the Glitter Sisters...Golden Sabers, Gold Dots or Silver Tips. ;)

Enough to at least ruin a perp's day if dad does his part! :rolleyes:

I started to see if he'd consider the new 32mag to get him an extra round, but figured they'll be expensive and maybe scarce for a while, so I'll just be happy he's ready for a gun again!

July 21, 2008, 05:22 AM
They use to have a wide selection of revolvers,

July 21, 2008, 08:11 AM
I'd just hit the next gun show in Knoxville and you are likely to find what you are looking for. A Colt Detective Special is the one I would suggest. Just buy it. It's your Dad. You'll get it back eventually. "I wish I could".... try harder. It's for your Dad.

July 21, 2008, 11:47 AM
try here,


They use to have a wide selection of revolvers,

the model 65 is a steal at $329

Brian Dale
July 22, 2008, 02:29 AM
I don't have any good leads; I just want to chime in to say, "Welcome Back!"
(my screen name here used to be Happy Bob)

Kudos to you for your tenacity.

Felonious Monk
July 23, 2008, 02:43 AM
Awfully nice of you, HappyBob! This is still home, to a great degree. :)
I've taken some kicks in the gut over the last couple of years, but family and career are still intact, and I'm exceedingly grateful for that!


Brian Dale
July 23, 2008, 03:29 AM and career are still intact...That's good news! Look around; you'll see more old friends. :)

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